An Oklahoma man who was doing target practice in his backyard on Christmas is believed to have shot and killed an elderly woman a few blocks from his home, authorities said.
Cody Wayne Adams, 33, has been charged with first-degree manslaughter in connection with the deadly shooting, court filings show.
The victim was on a covered front porch with family members at a residence in Comanche when she was shot Thursday afternoon, according to the probable cause affidavit. She was holding a baby in her left arm while seated on a love seat when she was struck in her right upper arm, according to the affidavit. The bullet then entered her chest cavity, it said.
Yup, that’s why if you’re going to practice, do so on a range and always consider: what the hell is BEHIND/AROUND my target?
JFC for a nation as obsessed with firearms as the United States, the level of firearms safety knowledge is shockingly low.
Lol, ranges aren’t necessarily any better. Hopefully they have someone enforcing safety rules, but there are a great deal of them that are in suburban areas, and even the rural ones can be within striking range of homes.
That’s exactly the point. Those of us that want gun control don’t want to rip them from the hands of responsible gun-owners.
We want common-sense laws that let us research and prevent gun violence. We want to keep guns out of the hands of those too young to understand them, criminals, abusers, stalkers, and the mentally-ill. We want people to have to understand how to safely operate them before purchasing guns, going hunting, or obtaining a concealed-carry permit. We want to limit gun crimes and school shootings.
But Republicans, the NRA, and gun lobbies oppose all of these popular positions most Americans agree on, even though it results in more gun deaths. There’s no compromising with fundamentalists…
You and I, my friend, are of a singular mind. I don’t oppose RESPONSIBLE gun ownership.
Responsibility, however, is a word missing from the MAGA/GOP/NRA vocabulary.
What was your latest purchase, if I may ask?
My latest… gun purchase? I bought a Remington 870 Express hunting shotgun maybe a decade ago. Non-firearm: I bought a matte black flatware set that was on sale for Black Friday that I really like!
Ah, that’s a solid shotgun and flatware set!
People in my neck of the woods talk about fire arms the way I talk about video games or TV shows. They sound like recreation rather than self defense. I don’t know if knowledge is the only factor; a sense of seriousness about firearms seems to be lacking.
Yep people shoot around where I live on their own 2 acre plot of land. Always know what’s behind your target “there are trees” and what’s behind those trees Joe?
There’s a house in an adjacent neighborhood that occasionally fires guns to a degree that it sounds like a gun battle is taking place. This story will make me wonder about their gun safety.
To be fair if guns were legal in my area I’d totally have one for fun. They look like a ton of fun. Probably best I’m not allowed one
Geez, if he’d lived any closer it would have gone through her and into the baby as well. Although she probably dropped the baby in any case.
In civilized parts of the world, it is illegal to discharge a firearm in an urban area or within X metres of an occupied building etc.
In the USA people shoot in their suburban backyard.
I can’t think of a place I’ve lived where discharge of firearms within city limits was not illegal. This moron probably didn’t care.
This sounds like it might be a more rural area since other neighbors seem to have backstops which isn’t illegal.
For what it’s worth, it’s illegal in the USA too. Obviously that didn’t stop this moron.
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Well there’s the problem: Americans don’t understand meters.
You may not discharge a firearm within 53 bald eagles of anyone else’s stand-your-ground area.
Is that when they are packed together pinguïn style, or wingspan to wingspan?
Beak to tail, traditionally.
If only that baby were armed, it could have returned fire and everything would have been okay. More guns is the solution!
It’s insane to me how many people think that taking guns away will actually increase the violence… like the people that would normally shoot up a place would suddenly become experts at building bombs and take out WAY more people… when the reality is that those people would probably be more likely to blow themselves up trying to build a bomb… guns are so simple to kill with, a toddler could do it. Building a bomb or something equivalent is much harder than pulling a trigger.
Most school shooters obtained their guns from family members. Its literally a crisis enabled by easy access to weapons.
The shear amount of accidental shootings combined with the amount of violence that really wouldn’t occur without easy access to guns is the main reason I’ll never own one. A gun is an implement of death. It is designed for one thing only, to most effectively rip a piece of metal through a body in a deadly manner. Any situation that a gun is introduced to becomes a potentially deadly situation. I’ve heard it suggested to apply the concept of Checkovs Gun to real life, that once someone pulls out a gun even as a “hey check out my cool new gun!” assume it will be fired by the end of the scene and leave before you can find yourself a part of that ending.
I also fully recognize that as a middle class white male, my safety is about as guaranteed by society as it can get. Many people are not so lucky and may very well be on their own when it comes to personal safety. I respect that, but I beg all firearm owners to please take every possible precaution. Regularly take self defense trainings, make sure that your firearm is not going to just be turned on you, make sure that you’re legally clear in defending yourself with it, and be absolutely certain that it is appropriately locked and protected from anyone else in your household or who enters your dwelling from taking it. Also have a plan should your own mental health take a downturn. Have a trusted individual who can convince you to sell your firearm or otherwise ensure you don’t have access to it until your mental state improves sufficiently. By owning a firearm understand you are owning a potential for death, appreciate that gravity and take every precaution necessary to minimize that potential
vehicle ramming attacks are constantly increasing. people who want to kill will find a way to kill with whatever tools they have available.
Then perhaps we should not let those people possess guns. Or vehicles , now that I think of it.
Perhaps give them no weapons. Yes, yes, that’s it. Take weapons away from crazy people. Hey! I got it! Let’s get them into a database so we can see if they have murderous tendencies. Perhaps a test of some sort in order to own any weapons.
What do you think?
I’d choose you trying to run me down with a vehicle over shooting at me with an AR15 any day of the week.
Well I think most of the population would think guns. Judging by how we use firing squads for capital punishment and not Dodge Rams. You might be able to sell this idea to the prison/auto industries. Have you considered consulting or lobbying?
So what you’re saying is, that you believe a Dodge Ram is a more effective killing tool than a firing squad? I can’t tell if you’re being facetious or just plain didn’t read anything here.
Especially since we have a model of what that society looks like, with places like Japan and great britain, most of Europe etc. They de-escalate to knife crime picking up the majority.
Name and shame em
If the polive was actually useful, then maybe getting rid of guns could be a good thing.
But as an Asian American. I know about the Korean Americans during LA Riots who had to protect their stores by themselves because the authorities didn’t give a shit.
Asian Diaspora are one of the most vulnerable groups. Because a lot of us have successful bussinesses and racists are jealous and like to target us.
So I’d prefer well regulated militias than police. Especially in the context of America where cops are horrible.
The well regulated militia is now ICE. Thanks for your attention to this matter.
Ice is a government policing agency following federal orders. Not sure if I would call them “well regulated” or a militia. They’re just the strong arm of authoritarianism, a special police force. Hell really its just the same old police force with new directives.
I think perhaps you’re missing the point. There is no well-regulated militia; the National Guard is supposed to be that entity.
As it stands, there is only ICE at the moment and we can all see their atrocities.
Some states do have active Militias last time I checked, and of course there are some weird fringe militias. ICE has government leadership and pay checks, they are the government.
The National Guard is a state organization that can be LEGALLY activated at a federal level.
The dumbfuck Adams is one of many reasons why the USA needs stricter gun control. I wonder if the worthless POS is a Charlie Kirk supporter.
When a deputy said he suspected the shooting may have caused the victim’s death, Adams “became visibly upset and began to cry,” the affidavit stated. The deputy also told him that “while he was shooting towards the ground in his backyard that there was nothing behind his property to stop any bullets from traveling beyond his property and hurting someone,” the affidavit stated.
The state failed. This man should have not been allowed to own a handgun without proper training. I’d bet in this moment he had no idea bullets would bounce up. Just sad that some basic laws would solve this.
We have a place literally designed for target practice, it’s called the “shooting range”. Ever heard of it ?
Even in very gun friendly areas ranges are always few, far between and often with years long wait lists for membership. Private property is often the only option, but it needs to be done safely. It sounds like every one of his neighbors had backstops for their home ranges, this dude was just a moron.
I’ve never heard of this issue. I know of at least 3 in my area that I could walk in, give them my id, fill out a small piece of paper and rent a gun and buy ammo to shoot there right there and then. I’ve even brought my Canadian in laws. They were able to shoot with just their passports. Rural ish PA btw
Much of the country it is a nightmare finding a place to shoot. I’m moving to Charleston SC at the end of the summer, I already reached out to the main range around there and they aren’t even accepting new people to the wait list. They’re hoping to maybe open the wait list back up in April or so.
When I lived in Northern Virginia someone finally built a very nice 100 yd indoor range and it was only a 45 minute drive from my apartment. Then the owner retired after 5-10 years and the town where it was located flat out told him “we will never approve the permits for you to ever sell it to another person. Sell it to us so we can make it a private police training facility or you will never see a penny.”
I’ve lived in many states, and it was almost always at least an hour to the nearest range. Right now I shoot on a private farm 10 minutes away and it’s beautiful.
“I’m a responsible gun owner, i have owned guns since the dawn of light” - Proceeds to 360 no-scope the neighbor.
Well, no, the average gun owner in USA is not a responsible gun owner.
The average gun owner is responsible, it’s all these super owners who skew the stats. The average gun owner owns one pistol that’s locked away in a case or safe and only sees the light of day when it’s opened at the range.
Then there are super owners who skew the results and have a half dozen guns and shoot them off at their property with no bullet berm or any actual range safety practices. They keep their guns on their bedside table, by the door, etc, always loaded with the excuse that it would take too long to deal with safety practices if there is an intruder.
These are the people you hear about in the news. The more guns the less safe in my experience.
In the eyes of an American perhaps, sure, but if you come from a civilized place on the world, well simply no…and we still are allowed to own guns, its simply not handed out like candy.
There’s a bullet hole in the flashing under my second floor gutters, facing the street. Doesn’t look like it came from nearby, like it’s not slanted down toward the street or anything. No idea how long it’s been there, but I found it a few years ago when cleaning the gutters. Bullet might still be lodged in there.
It’s genuinely wild to me that people just fire this shit off willy-nilly.
While in military school after boot camp, I was stuck in the barracks because our Chief was extremely strict about letting us use our evening time how we’d like. While mopping the same spot for the 4th hour, I get a call from my wife advising that she’s really scared. A gun had just discharged from the neighbors house, went through our wall, got lodged in our dresser about 2” from my 1.5 year old daughter’s leg. I went to my chief and other instructors, asking to be let out so I can comfort my family. They said no, there’s nothing I can do if I leave and my family can drive to a motel if they feel unsafe.
You’re expecting military people not to be insane about guns?
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But what if war were declared?
Coworker of mine was shot through her apartment floor (accidental discharge). She almost died.
My wife worked with someone that didn’t know that bullets come down after you shoot them in the air. People are fucking stupid.
That which goes up…despawns?
I think she just thought it went to space. She’s not the brightest crayon.
It’s genuinely wild to me that Americans let just anyone have the capability to do that.
I agree, frankly. I am expert qualified (former military), and inherited firearms when my mom died. I don’t have any firearms currently, as I sold those off (very very old farm weapons; we were on a farmette) nor do I ever intend to get more. All that training, and I’m still not comfortable owning something that is designed specifically to kill something.
That is to say you can hypothetically do nothing, and still end up with firearms, which is a really big problem. Zero background check on inheritance…
We’re in desperate need of just education in the USA on many facets, including firearms. We don’t have safety courses for them and barely have anything for cars. Both are very dangerous is used improperly.
If you aren’t absolutely chicken shit it isn’t a problem. Idk I think u should have to get a licence to own a firearm, maybe if you can’t figure out bullet-go-far you can’t fucking own a gun
The guy from this post clearly wasn’t chicken-shit about guns.
Can you elaborate? He was the only property in that area WITHOUT a suitable backstop to fire at, and was firing off rounds by the handful from a newly acquired firearm out of excitement. Sounds about as fucking chicken shit as you can get with a firearm short of shooting randomly in a city centre, but what would I know haven’t killed anybody yet after years of shooting safely. Know where you are pointing the barrel, and know whatever is down range of it is liable to get killed. And yes, a house being behind where your shooting is a pretty basic consideration if you ask me but nobody knows gun safety anymore and instead choose ignorance. Not sure in what fantasy land you could say Adams from the article WASNT being chicken shit in, maybe if you read the article you will understand better what happened.
I think you have a different definition of chicken shit than most people, or I at least: “cowardly” or “very scared”.
Maybe those people fell off of the apathy tree.
Pretty sure this patriot was just trying to stop the baby skull biker gang from raping our churches and burning our children.
There was a CSI episode with this plot!
Chatgpt says it was the episode “Story of a Gun”
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chatgpt > write a reply to the people, who write replies to you comments with “fuck chatgpt” when nobody asked them about chatgpt usage and the point of the discussion is something completely unrelated. Start the answer with “i use what the fuck i want and i don’t give a fuck about your purity tests”. Fuck the internet purity gatekeepers, like the internet was ever pure. like 3 line text with lots of sarcasm. No boundaries. Make it emotionally glaciar.
i use what the fuck i want and i don’t give a fuck about your purity tests.
If my comment derailed your inner equilibrium because it wasn’t crafted by your preferred method, that’s a remarkably fragile ecosystem you’re running. And if “fuck chatgpt” is the summit of your insight, consider the mercy of saying nothing — it would’ve conveyed the same depth with far more elegance.Chatgpt says
please stop using chatgpt as a substitute for doing like three minutes of actual work to find the answer with any amount of certainty
I think you (and I) are on the wrong side of that battle. I’ve been there so many times. I just find myself drifting away from popular culture. Started with refusing to use facebook and it’s companies a long time ago.
Then, I set up a local LLM, fed it some manuals for some engines I work on, thought it was kind of an interesting way to interact with them. Ultimately, I just went back to the manuals. I haven’t touched an LLM, on purpose, for a year or so.
They’re going to have to start charging for LLMs at some point, I think we will see them become less popular for random bullshit when that happens.
These days if you search on google, their ai answers. And I have noticed the qualitynof the links after are noticeably worse. They are litterally breaking search to trick you into thinking AI is better. So it takes considerably more time to find real sources. I think we are stuck with Ai answers.
Quit using Google then
Google is an example. Lots of search engines are doing it. And the others are buying google search data, so thier quality will go down as well. Google isn’t dumb, and it has no moral compass. Get used to AI. You have no real choice.
i use Kagi
Which uses google data.
What left on earth doesn’t?
Fuck ChatGPT.
I’ll remember that episode! It was a 9mm bullet on a crazy long arc trajectory. Like 900 yards?
Yes that was it
Dude was shooting without a backstop, fucking idiot…
The problem here aren’t the guns or what they can do, but how people think, or rather do not think. Think about that… thank you
Guns are tools. You give a sledge hammer to an idiot and they will eventually hurt themselves and others.
That sounds like you’re trying to make the tool the bad guy here instead of ignorance.
Just a Real Murkan standing his ground, puh-raise JEE-zuz-ah!
There’s gotta be a name for the look where a physically unfit/poor performing American tries to offset this by donning physically “tough” fashion accessories and hair dos.
I know there’s gravy seals, but they kind of take it to the next level.
This, it’s more like a defence mechanism. Like they’d totally get their ass kicked in literally anything—fighting, jogging, getting up out of a chair—but they keep themselves safe by dressing up and casting tough stares.
People who open carry are embarrassing. They’re just advertising how scared they are.
There are a number: gravy seals, tacticool, mall ninjas, more I’m sure. Just lots of ways to say wannabes.
exercise would likely cause a cardiac arrest.
