The Trump administration is telling states they will be shut out of a $42 billion broadband deployment fund if they set the rates that Internet service providers receiving subsidies are allowed to charge people with low incomes.
The latest version of the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) FAQ on the grant program, released today, is a challenge to states considering laws that would force Internet providers to offer cheap plans to people who meet income eligibility guidelines. One state already has such a law: New York requires ISPs with over 20,000 customers in the state to offer $15 broadband plans with download speeds of at least 25Mbps, or $20-per-month service with 200Mbps speeds.
Aus we are going to get 2g up 200mb down in sept. Currently its a joke of 1g up 40mb down for $110 a month. But the reaosn for that is 2013 and the coalition being shit heels and the australian voter also being a shit heel
I get 200mb down, 1 carrier pigeon up, and a static IP for $150 in the US. I’d burn my moms house down for those speeds.
I’m paying $80 a month for a gig, it only comes bundled with a phone plan, a cable TV plan, and a gaggle of ad-enabled streaming services. Most days I get 200mbps down, and about 80 up. That’s the best I could get.
No, I don’t live in bumfuck nowhere, I live in one of the 20 most populous cities in the US.
Yeah, more i hear bout the US the more surprised i keep being with standards.
Lmfao or what
Also, this is transparently an effort to push people towards Starlink. They are trying to holistically control the flow of information to as great a proportion of the population that they can.
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Musk is an asshole, but starlink really doesn’t have issues with speed or lag, at least with my experience having it as a backup circuit in an office environment (not my decision)
Uh, what kind of speed do you need?
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Comcast wanted $250/mo for the cheapest service here, and Comcast is also evil.
Psssst you shouldn’t be encouraging others to use your shitty Internet provider. It’ll only make it slower for you.
They will just dump more trash into the Orbit
Something something states rights, lol
Something something free market
Small government says what?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X_8E3ENrKrQ
Yes, “states rights”
Well, states are still free to do as they wish if they are okay not receiving money from this fund.
Lots of stupid going on with this, but I wouldn’t consider it a violation of the tenth amendment.
Don’t pretend for even a second that this could be applied to anything Republicans like. They’d scream “state’s rights!” and block it.
That’s not the argument Republicans make. They say using federal funding to influence state decisions is violating the rights of the state to make decisions for itself. This isn’t a legal argument, but an ethical one. They aren’t claiming actual constitutional violations, rather a violation of the spirit of state independence.
I agree with a lot of this opinion, if they were making it in good faith. However, they obviously are not, as usual. They want states to be free to make decisions about not providing education to children, but they should be forced to not allow people to choose to have abortions, for example. If they were consistent it wouldn’t create so many issues, but they just want to enforce their views on others.
Something something price of eggs
Small consolation, but I expect Trump voters will be disproportionally affected.
The states and ISPs need to make noise about this, so MAGA knows what they’re missing.
Almost every bit of news regarding Trump is bad. He wants them in the dark.
He= Christian Nationalists. Project 2025 didn’t come from his delusional mind, he’s just the one with the keys.
Yeah, he’s not just grifting this time, he’s actively working against the American people and their interests, as well as our nations. It’s the literal definition of treason
There is nothing you’ve said that can’t be applied to virtually every decision he’s made since getting back into office. Plenty of it is grift. Most of it is fulfilling the wishes of giant corporations and the GOP. It just so happens that the interests of those two groups almost never align with those of the American citizens or even his most ardent supporters.
The (…) ISPs need to make noise about this
Will they though? The way I see it, isn’t it much nicer for them to bag the subsidies and maximize profit.
REMOVE HIS HEAD FROM HIS BODY
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The “forgotten man”.
What happened to that and the way all these red-pilled choads appropriated that? Oh right, it is bullshit just like all the other bullshit from Taco and his fellow criminals.
I guess its time to start hacking and cloning cable modems again. Gotta fight these fuckers somehow.
Again? I didn’t know this was even a thing
Yeah, used to be a big problem in some places like florida back when you could just ovveride dns settings and get free internet off any modem. It requires custom firmware and other things these days that make reselling such a free hookup impractical, but thats not gonna stop me from helping people do it for free.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_Haunt
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncapping
https://archive.org/stream/Hacking_The_Cable_Modem_2006/Hacking_The_Cable_Modem_2006_djvu.txt
We’ve already paid for nationwide broadband, and the corpos took the money, did a fraction of the work, and called it done. I don’t see what this latest infusion of cash-to-corpos is going to do for the average Joe.
don’t see what this latest infusion of cash-to-corpos is going to do for the average Joe.
Who gives a fuck what the average Joe wants? If they aren’t in the donor class, fuck 'em.
We didn’t just pay for it, we also gave up the public TV spectrum in order to make it happen. That’s why your old-school TV antennas won’t work anymore.
Technically the antennas work, it’s the old tuners that don’t. Plug rabbit ears into a smart TV you’ll get whatever stations are left now.
The USA isn’t run by or for the average Joe. Average Joes are human resources to be mined, plundered, exploited and discarded as their rulers see fit.
Trump rapes more than women, now he has a whole nation.
And sometimes even little girls.
man the prices below are disgusting and this is just the home internet. I used to pay $40 - $50 / month with BrightHouse. If we want higher speed, my roomates would chip in and the total price is at max $90/month. After they turn to greedy Spectrum, the price jumped to $80/ month for slow speed. It was so expensive so we didnt go with higher speed…
I thought that was expensive so I decided to ditch broadband and only use my phone. This was when carriers still had truly unlimited data. Well, things worked for a while until they decided to kill that too with BS feature, i.e. you’re still unlimited but we’ll slow you down if you hit the limit. I paid no minds to this at first, but then the 2G was so slow that you couldnt do anything.
How in the world does this clown even still have supporters?
Because Americans like it.
Hey! There are dozens of us who don’t like it! Dozens!
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If you believe “USA today”
The more overworked people are the more willing they are to take intellectual shortcuts and not think independently. One of those shortcuts is to mistake a contrarian opinion as independent thought. Throw in a contrarian leader into an economy where people are overworked and this is the result.
The US education system has created idiots. The religious cult has done everything they can to destroy actual education.
That is unfair. US Public schools are often okay. US Private schools are sometimes okay. US Home schools… I heard one kid was okay.
They’re probably trying to stop low-income people from having some means of learning about the world (at least until the Trump Administration manages to control their part of the Internet like China does) and reducing their ability to organise en masse.
“They might learn more about Jeffery Epstein and the people who spent time with him. Can’t have that!”
Having lived in the mid level of an NYC apt block: offer your neighbors upstairs and downstairs their own wifi network off your ddwrt/openwrt router, split the fast internet 3 ways and still pay less than any “low price” plan.
Doesn’t take much to setup, and just ask them to Venmo or whatever. You’re not a landlord, you’re taking from the shit-ass ISPs and spreading the wealth while all of you profit equally.
What if they access / do illegal stuff with your shared internet though?
You can setup pihole or a DNS blocker and just block that stuff.
Or route all traffic through a VPN.
This is what I do actually, all via VPN.
Don’t forget to bring your own modem every chance you get. Not only to save a few bucks, but the ISP loses a lot of visibility of your LAN when you do.
Pay higher so we can be tracked like in FL, where you have to show ID to watch porn?
What a fucking joke
BTW, whats the typical price for internet access these days in the US? Havent been there since 2024.
I pay $70 for a gig
$90 for a gig
I pay $55 for a gig. I got a promo rate though.
I’m in Tokyo and pay $40 for 10gig fibre… actual speed is about 6-7gig up and down.
I wish lol
I’m gonna need to see your speedtest.net link
I pay $140/mo for ~300 down / 100 up. I found another provider with similar bandwidth for $50/mo, but I self-host a couple things, and they wouldn’t assign me an IPv6 prefix or allow port forwarding. Also, my son complained because his games had 70 ms ping on the less expensive provider.
Edit: I’m in a big city, I think it’s even worse in rural areas.
How are they blocking port forwarding? Just put your own router in…
I already have my own router, but they do NAT from the modem with no way to switch to bridge mode.
Ah, fucking assholes.
I had to call my ISP because I specifically requested a modem only, no router, and they gave me one of their stupid locked-down combo units.
If you bitch enough, they will relent.
This was T-Mobile 5G internet, and they only had one modem available. I never bothered looking for my own 5G modem (assuming T-Mobile would even allow BYOD), because my son was already complaining about his ping. And even then, they would still only assign a single IPv6 instead of the full /64 prefix I get with my current provider.
Wow. I live in Denmark and I pay 150 dollars every 4 months for 1Gb up and down.
You guys are getting scammed in the US.
Do you get billed every 4 months, or why frame it that way? Or is this a weird danish thing, like your numbers? :-)
I do get billed every 4 months yea.
US here, $70 for a gig up and down. (Which obviously never gets that fast. )
I’ve seen fiber for that price, but my house is like 3 miles away from the nearest fiber location (I have a co-worker that lives within that boundary).
You guys are getting scammed in the US.
In every possible thing, yes. US citizens are nothing but wallets and wage slaves for the rich.
If port-forwarding is an issue, you can always use a free VPN to reach your self-hosted services. Or if you want to make them public, you can set up yourself a relay on AWS LightSail for less than 5$/month. Or if you want to save as much as possible you can use TailScale or CloudFlare’s Zero Trust network to self-host for free using their server as a relay.
I’ve been port forwarding for decades at this point. I just recently found out about tunneling your traffic through relays like that. Pretty neat stuff. Glad I can finally ditch my isp and switch to another without worrying about their port forwarding policies
$90/mo for 1Gbps up and down for me in a 30k town for me. I also have two fiber providers, one cable, and wireless as options. I realize I’m more of the exception than the rule. When I first moved here, 50Mbps cable was my only option.
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