• Ænima@lemm.ee
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    10 days ago

    So what happens if the thugs in the DoJ clash with this judicial security? Are they prepared to turn their weapons on the DoJ officers? If not, then this is only to protect judges from stochastic terrorism at the hands of tRump supporters. Dark passages up ahead, I fear.

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      10 days ago

      The DOJ is subordinate to the Judiciary, regardless of what these assclowns are trying to cosplay.

      The Judiciary is equal to Executive and Congress. That’s just a fucking fact. A Federal Judges ruling has the same weight as any bullshit Executive Order Trump can crap out on paper.

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        10 days ago

        That seems to matter little to this regime. So, I ask again, what happens when they clash? We saw them stage a situation and try to arrest sitting members of congress and a mayor. In a sane world, you are correct. We don’t live in that world so subordination doesn’t matter!

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        10 days ago

        Those are only facts if someone enforces it at the business end of a weapon.

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        The DOJ is subordinate to the Judiciary

        Maybe crack open a book on US government or read an encyclopedia article: Department of Justice is department of the executive branch. Historically, they started out as the federal government’s attorneys/prosecutors.

        The judicial branch only has the federal courts, its judges, its administrators.

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          Maybe crack open a dictionary and understand what subordinate means.

          If the Judicial Branch is equal to Executive, then any subordinate of the Executive is subordinate to the Judiciary.

          Y’all gotta learn more.

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                9 days ago

                Checks & balances don’t mean “any subordinate of the Executive is subordinate to the Judiciary”: they’re still separate/independent branches with limited powers to keep each other in check. It’s called separation of powers.

                Checks by the judicial branch are scant: pretty much declare legislation & executive actions unconstitutional. It’s powerless to enforce. Prosecutorial discretion remains with the prosecutor.

                The Department of Justice is under the executive branch: quit willfully ignoring that/pretending that means anything else. We get the government we have, not the government as we wish it were.

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                  It LITERALLY means that a subordinate anything of any branch of government is just that. SUB-waitforit-ORDINATE. The words are right there in the link I sent you.

                  Stop trolling and start learning instead of spreading you absolutely insane and uneducated crap here.

                  • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
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                    Stop trolling and start learning instead of spreading you absolutely insane and uneducated crap here.

                    Are you referring to yourself?

                    Maybe you need to whip out a dictionary or go back to lower education & not sleep through US civics/government.

                    The words are right there in the link I sent you.

                    subordinate is nowhere on that page: did you hallucinate? Try quoting it.