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File manager > Recent files
Seriously, this thread has me very confused about how a social media platform seemingly inundated with nerds can’t open a file manager (which often comes pre-installed) to find a downloads folder.
It was a bigger problem when they first instituted private app storage and limited apps access to other apps data.
Eg. My dashcam app had an export button. The files went into that apps private storage which was unavailable to non-root file explorers even with permissions. The app had to change significantly.
Everything’s more or less playing well together now but people still have PTSD.
Mes fichiers » fichiers récent
For any francos looking for this application.
literally I’ve had files that file manager cannot see or interact with at all. I think they always came from termux, which is what I used to unzip zip files. Definitely in the right directory but just plain invisible to file manager and other apps.
Recent files > move file where you want itfrom there
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Sorry, best we can offer is renaming Control Panel again and shuffling around the place you can find certain settings
We call it Linux.
Android is built in the Linux kernel. That’s actually some of what causes this - Android’s permissions model takes the Linux model and amplifies it. Apps are treated like users to prevent them from messing with each other’s files. If an app uses Android’s downloads manager it can write to the downloads directory, but it can only see the files that it put there.
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That’s an interesting point about OneDrive automatically backing up folders. It reminds me of the time I was messing around with a weird game concept, something like a chicken jockey clicker, and I accidentally saved all the game files to a cloud folder without realizing it. Took forever to sort out the mess.
Yeah, it can be hard to find files sometimes. File Navigator solves this problem perfectly.
Solid Explorer has always been my go to. I never understood why basic file explorer functions essentially required the use of a separate app, but it’s functionality is superb and the now-baked-in-but-terrible file explorer in android can never hope to match it.
If you think about it, its always a separate app. WIndows Explorer is an app and so is Dolphin on KDE.
lsis an app.
Android just has a bit of an identity problem with how to present files. Considering its made for the most common denominator, and everything revolves around ‘apps’ now, the concept of files, what they are and what they do is new to many. Most people wont even consider the photo they took is a file. Its a photo, not a file, what are you talking about?. So I’m not surprised the representation of files is on the lower priority list.
I’m old school, I want to know where everything is in the file system and this part of android messes with me.I guess I meant that it shouldn’t require a 3rd party app. When I discovered and began using Solid Explorer, there wasn’t even a viable system app for file management in Android, you had to use a 3rd party app. They did eventually add a system app, but it’s next to useless.
Oh, Samsung has a files app. I just assumed all vendors provide one. I dont consider this third party though.
I guess it would be similar if you used GNOME and it didnt come with the app ‘Files’. Linux isnt a desktop so there wouldnt be any system app for files either, just the CLI. Does stock Android provide a system files app? I cant find it.I’m using a Samsung device now as well, but as I recall, my last Pixel phone did have a very basic files app. But stock Android didn’t always - I was using ES File Explorer and eventually Solid Explorer on my HTC phones back in the day to restore basic functionality.
“Akshually, photo is not a file” is how iOS did it. Blew my mind when I tried to sync my files (Syncthing/Möbius) and it would not show any of the photos in file lists. Apparently it’s for “security reasons”.
This was several years ago so IDK if it’s the same still.
I prefer Material Files.
Yeah, I feel you on that. It’s my go to file manager as well.
Firefox: oh you just saved 3 files to a folder, allow me to save the next one to a folder you haven’t downloaded anything to in months.
Thank the allmaker for KDE recent files.
Thank the allmaker for KDE recent files.
and GNOME recent files. I believe its even an XDG FreeDesktop spec.
damn its 23 Years old: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/recent-files-spec/latest/
Bit by bit? The move to mobile was like getting hit in the face with an inaccessibility bat. I hate mobile OSes with a passion. Unfortunately, they’re overwhelmingly the way through which people interact with the Internet or do any kind of tech stuff anymore. I do a lot of audio work, and Android lacks even simple routing software. It just uses the last audio device plugged into it. Never mind you only want to use the mic on that and not the output. Forget using multiple devices. It’s infuriating. You’ll pry my desktop away from me through my cold, dead hands.
Sounds like you should install Ubuntu touch on your phone
Doesn’t work on all devices though
Then install linage OS or get a fair phone 4
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I really lost my shit when Firefox downloaded some Belfort & Lupin subtitles and I could not for the fucking live of me find them.
Turns out it put them in the “Movies” folder instead of “Downloads” where it actually put the corresponding video files.
sounds like your pitiful mind cant understand the unix file oriented philosophy and you should stay 10 feet away from all information technology /sarcasm
Technology and sarcasm?!?!
I’ve got a bad feeling this might catch on…
Luckily, we technology enthusiasts are all special snowflakes and don’t engage in anything as banal as copying other people.
Luckily, we technology enthusiasts are all special snowflakes and don’t engage in anything as banal as copying other people and sarcasm :)
I’m never sarcastic.
Luckily, we technology enthusiasts are all special snowflakes and don’t engage in anything as banal as copying other people and sarcasm :) :)
Well said, o7
now look here you little… oh actually it would be nice to get away from tech honestly…
It has very little to do with unix philosophy
yo that’s the joke i was making XD
It’s almost as if this is a computer architecture designed for idiots who don’t know or care what a file is or for what purposes their data is being harvested. Everywhere I hear people falling over themselves to declare that the tablet smartphone was apple’s golden gift to the world. Try to do any serious work on one, it’s fucking annoying.
Whenever we make technology accessible to stupid people it becomes irritating to use and a privacy nightmare.
It’s almost as if this is a computer architecture designed for
idiotshuman beings whodon’t know or care what a file isinteract with computers on a non-file oriented basis or have been lied to and systemically unsupported in their education for what purposes their data is being harvested.No hate. No useful conversation starts with calling large swaths of people idiots, is all.
I can find files just fine on my Android phone, BUT when saving files on my iPad this meme would be true.
I was editing a document on my iPad, saved it in a folder labeled ‘documents’, searched with the files app and the document folder wasn’t on my iPad or iCloud.
Come to find out the app itself made a folder named documents within itself. So in order to get it on my iPad itself i had to share the file to dropbox then redownload it 🤨
Yeah, developers can’t access those folders without some super specific permissions, so most just use the dedicated app folder.
I have learned the horrors of Apple since getting this thing. Like it for drawing and 3D sculpting, but that’s about it.
Oh, so you are a grass trainer? Why, I often roleplay as a Shaymin
How many gym badges you got??
Why would I have gym badges?!?
You should see how much developing for apple hurts when using a multiplatform ecosystem.
In Flutter for example, there are entire documentation sections on “Apple is incredibly stupid and needs special care”
Ohhhhh yes. Flutter + Apple has tested my will to live multiple times.
I can only imagine how painful it is for those developers
Same, I always have trouble with finding saved files on ipad/iphone. Often it saves a pdf as “document”, and overwrites the previous download with similar name.
That’s annoying. I have not yet had the displeasure of experiencing the overwrite problem, but i am sure it’ll happen soon enough. Thanks for the heads-up!
Home puter is a Mac which I only use for the Logic DAW but they have a primary app called Finder which has never found anything I asked for. Its a Finder that doesnt Find.
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dont forget on some phones OS, you can actually pick and choose the download location. After you downloaded though, the files arent there…
Had to question my sanity many times…
I thought I was losing it because this app wanted to save things to a “downloads” folder. Only to find out it saves it in something like
documents/app name/downloads Instead of
Downloads/
This is a real problem with young people coming into the office. They don’t know how to navigate a file system. They’ve never had to do it.
I suppose those are the same people who make a full screen screenshot in order to share a picture.
No, they’re taking a picture of the screen with their phone.
No, it’s a file system issue. It randomly makes folders and decides where to put things. A photo could be in the dcim folder, a photos folder on my outside card or a photos. It may or may not be in recents.
I’m saying that people who have grown up in the world of smartphones and apps are used to files just going into the ether and the app knowing where it is, and they never learned how to navigate a file system.
I know what you were saying.
Android is pretty bad in many regards
But it has the best, most human-friendly user interface ever. Especially on tablets
And I’m ready to die on that hill xD
I will only grant that, assuming we are only looking at current popular smartphone OS’s … and you turn off gestures
and you turn off gestures
Yeah, gestures are horrible
assuming we are only looking at current popular smartphone OS’s
I was speaking of every interface to navigate a computer for general use. What would you consider to be the best in that regard ?
For me its probably KDE, its not my favorate but its what I recommend for people to use. That being said I grew up with desktop computers, but both Android and IOS I complain that it does not work how I think it would be most usable for me
Man I hate gestures. I’d happily use a phone twice as thick if it meant a real keyboard with real function buttons. (I have large hands and blunt fingers, little touchpad keyboard is a nightmare and there’s no easy way to attach a stylus of comfortable size)
If anyone can find me a proper physical keyboard on a smart phone, I would happily get it, I hate virtual keyboards, my typos go up from my already nearly unacceptable rate.
