If you were running a LLM locally on android through llama.cpp for use as a private personal assistant. What model would you use?

Thanks for any recommendations in advance.

  • net00@lemmy.today
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    6 days ago

    I don’t recommend it. I ran local AI in my phone before (iPhone but same difference), and just asking it stuff makes it warm up to touch. Battery also takes a hit.

    It also messes up multitasking features since it uses up most memory which kills background apps. Phones weren’t designed for this.

    Best way is to host it in an actual dedicated machine that can be accessed remotely.

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    8 days ago

    Running an llm on a phone will absolutely destroy your battery life. It also is imperative that you understand that the comfort of ai is bought with killing of innocents (through expediency of climate catastrophe, exploitation of the planet and the poorest on it).

    I think using ai to experiment on a home server which already exists wouldnt be problematic IN A VACUUM but you would still normalize using the tech which is morally corrupt.

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      8 days ago

      Not trying to instigate a fight but if you make this argument, I hope you’re also vegan

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        7 days ago

        I mean, ideally yes, everyone would go vegan, but that’s a far bigger lifestyle change than just continuing to not use AI like we’ve done for decades

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          7 days ago

          I’m not even trying to argue against you, I’m arguing for veganism. The same arguments that you used for why the use of AI is bad can be used for why not being vegan is bad. The production of animal products even has a way bigger impact.

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            7 days ago

            In that case i very much suggest a different approach.

            “If that is your take, you will love veganism.”

            Btw, i dont eat animal products. Pretty recently too.

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              7 days ago

              It is not. Eating meat is actually a torture and murder industry and people who eat meat are actually eating pieces of corpses.

              Even when I still ate meat, I could understand that morally there is no difference to eating humans.

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                Not only that… The meat industry is poisoning the animals with antibiotics, GMO cereals… they live in 1m2 of space/cow, and living in hell 24/24, feel anger, hate, sadness and treated like shit and pure pain while beaten by humans… It’s horrible !!

                And all these things are digested by our body… Ugh ! It’s similar to a concentration camp but for animals…

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                  7 days ago

                  I could see an argument against industry standards on meat production, but the base argument of veganism is flawed when all these things you list do not occur. And yes, veganism is frequently a cult in my experience. They tend to surround of themselves, assure themselves to each other and avoid discussion of their mindset. AAMOF I was turned off to discuss here, but as I randomly got to know I’m being downvoted, I will engage.

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              7 days ago

              Literally any lifestyle can become a cult. The presence of vegan cults is because veganism is more popular than ever so evil people exploit that to form cults. There are fitness cults too, does that mean everyone who works out is a cult member?

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      7 days ago

      I am a fan of LLMs and what they can do, and as such have a server specifically for running AI models. However, I’ve been reading “Atlas of AI” by Kate Crawford and you’re right. So much of the data that they’re trained on is inherently harmful or was taken without consent. Even in the more ethical data sets it’s probably not great considering the sheer quantity of data needed to make even a simple LLM.

      I still like using it for simple code generation (this is just a hobby to me so Vibe coding isn’t a problem in my scenario) and corporate tone policing. And I tell people non stop that it’s worthless outside of these use cases and maybe as a search engine, but I recommend Wikipedia as a better start almost Everytime.

  • absurdity_of_it_all@lemmy.ml
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    8 days ago

    You want to run it on the phone itself? I don’t think any phone would be good enough for that. The issue with AI assistants is not just privacy. It’s also the resource consumption (and of course stolen content). It’s so high and only these big companies with huge server farms can do it.

    If you just want a voice assistant for simple commands, I’ve heard of an open source local assistant called Dicio. But I don’t think you can talk to it like ChatGPT or something.

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    7 days ago

    I have pocketpal setup on my pixel with graphene os and its pretty awesome. I agree that AI is inherently bad considering the environmental impact and the amount of data that is illegally needed to train AI.

    That being said pocketpal is openaoirce and is great. https://github.com/a-ghorbani/pocketpal-ai