Anything to take him down, he’s becoming too popular. He didn’t fuck any kids on a pedophile island though, so if my choices are pedophiles or a guy who once supported Reagan, I gotta go with the recovering Reagan supporter.
Owner class pulling the strings… per usual.
Fascist praises fascist, go figure.
Liberals gonna Lib.
Cool, a clickbait headline engaging in the irrelevance fallacy of poisoning the well over a quote. Quoting someone doesn’t mean supporting everything they ever did. Newsom’s quote was recalling a time when a Republican president would say
We’re still a nation comprised of good and decent people whose fundamental values of tolerance, compassion, and fair-play guide and direct the decisions of our government.
in contrast to the current president who’s entirely against such ideas.
The sensational rhetoric against quoting that is dishonest genetic fallacy.
This was a great thread for finding tankies to block, thanks OP.
Could you explain more clearly what you mean by this? I just scrolled through the thread quickly and only really saw correct criticism of Newsoms neoliberal policies and conservative rhetoric and liberals who don’t want to admit that these attributes are aligned with liberalism. Which ones are the tankies? Am I supposed to be the tankie? Is tankie when you criticize liberals now? Or is this a comment sorting kinda thing?
neoliberal
The free-market capitalism variant of right-wing libertarianism? That’s news.
liberalism
I don’t think you know the meaning of the word in either the classical sense or modern one.
Which ones are the tankies?
Tankies use similar rhetoric about liberalism to reject it from leftism. According to them, leftism rejects liberal philosophy, ie, the idea that individuals have fundamental liberties & the only legitimate authority is the kind that protects such liberties. Leftism that rejects that idea is authoritarian AKA tankie.
If that’s your philosophy, then you’ve answered your own question.
Let’s find out!
Fascist praises fascist, go figure.
Oof, another busted IFF. Womp womp.
Oh, that is what you meant. Tankie is when you criticise liberalism now.
Oh
Taking one for the gipper, eh?
It really sucks the way they treated AIDS initially. I still know elders who believe it is a divine punishment for gays. So many people died needlessly because of this.
This doesn’t even scratch the surface of the American genocide known as the war on drugs though. Millions of lives lost and tens of millions of families destroyed. All completely preventable.
They knew all along the right thing to do, but they had to go after the poor and minorities. It was one of the most disgusting representation of oppression and classism in modern times.
Newsom is a neoliberal his policies are literally based on Ronald Reagan’s legacy of screwing the working class
Who should run for president instead?
AOC or Ro Kahna https://www.trackaipac.com/2028
Fair enough
neoliberal
The free-market capitalism variant of right-wing libertarianism? That’s news.
I linked wikipedia, too: both articles agree.
In reality there’s no free market as we fully support communism for the capitalist class and cutthroat individualism for the working class but yes both parties have been neoliberal since the 80’s Europe is dealing with it to. It’s really just corruption
neoliberal
You keep using that word as if you comprehend it.
both parties have been neoliberal since the 80’s
Nope: repeating yourself doesn’t make it true.
Neoliberalism is a libertarian free-market capitalism movement.
Name variants of the free-market revival movement include classical liberalism, economic liberalism, free-market liberalism and neoliberalism.
Modern liberalism is not for free-market capitalism.
most synonymous with the ideology known as social liberalism
with support for social justice and a mixed economy
Economically, modern liberalism accepts a role for government to protect against market failures, protect competition and prevent corporate monopolies, and supports labor rights. Its fiscal policy supports sufficient funding for a social safety net, while simultaneously promoting income-proportional tax reform policies to reduce deficits. It calls for active government involvement in other social and economic matters such as reducing economic inequality, expanding access to education and healthcare, and protection of the shared natural environment, in large part on the contention that advances in those areas create a thriving economy in the long run.
Major factions of the Democratic party are modern liberals & progressives. The progressive congressional caucus in their party is one of their largest.
Read them facts & weep.
I don’t like Newsom (and am not from the USA), but the context of this Tweet is very clearly a response to Trump and an attack on his behaviour (especially of late), re: insulting/mocking Rob Reiner’s death. His office/PR has regularly used Ronald Reagan’s quotes (as the former hero of the Republicans) to point out how completely embarrassing and perverse Trump’s presidency is to their former ‘ethics’ and values, and to ignore that context as tacit approval for Reagan is disingenuous.
This article (from a UK publisher) is really clutching at straws.
Having said all that, personally I think AOC or Bernie would be 100 times better candidates. Original Tweet below.
Lol describing the presidency under Reagan as “a reminder of our common humanity” is 1000% praising and whitewashing Reagan, there is nothing “disingenuous” about it whatsoever.
The DNC just buried its autopsy report from the 2024 election. Who knows what it said. But maybe Democrats ought to simply stop uplifting Republicans every chance they get. Fuck the outreach. Use other examples. I don’t like this guy at all anymore. He’s a snake.
Definitely a snake
Reagan was a devil in humans clothing. Saying he was humanity at all is spitting on the grave of people who died because of his actions.
The tweet said “the presidency” not “the president.” It didn’t even say anything about Reagan himself, just repeating what Reagan said about the title and office.
That’s a lot of mental gymnastics to defend someone highlighting Ronald fucking Reagan.
Real question is how many times newsom has praised Reagan https://www.gov.ca.gov/2024/02/06/governor-newsom-proclaims-ronald-reagan-day-2024/.
Or how long until the dems slogan is the scariest words in the English language are I’m from government and here to help
Well, Reagan was another smooth-talking weasel with a slicked-back quiff. Game recognize game.
Yet again, lemmy refuses to even try and acknowledge the point of the statement and instead manufactures typical outrage over nothing, and judging by the comments- clearly no one even read the article.
This absolute shit-tier example of garbage journalism states he “praised” Regan, where all he did was quote him. And the quote is entirely irrelevant to the outrage bullshit that the article claims.
By the way- this is exactly the type of shit that MAGA knows will piss you all off enough to not vote for him. So, be prepared to see a lot more of this shared here.
Trump couldn’t pay enough for this kind of help.
Look, if the only candidates the Democrats can put forward are people who don’t give all that much of a damn about human beings dying… Yeah, I dunno.
Suggesting that a Republican that killed a bunch of people had the right idea about national pride and unity is just terrible. Normal, but terrible. There are a billion quotes about unity from much better people. Why Reagan?
I can’t vote for another Democrat who thinks human lives are something to be brushed under the rug. I did it once, but I’m not doing it again. Not after I’ve seen just how dedicated they are to sticking to that.
I can’t vote for another Democrat who thinks human lives are something to be brushed under the rug.
Well, then, along with him having kind words for Reagan, you probably wouldn’t approve of Newsom’s persecution of homeless people when he was mayor of SF either.
I didn’t know about that specifically, but I might as well have assumed.
Lmao…. K.
As someone who has lived in California for decades, fuck Newsom and anyone that supports him. He has always been rightist neoliberal scum. If he runs for anything he needs to be ruthlessly crushed in primary long before we reach another two-party false-binary “lesser evil” compromise yet again.
LMAO…. Okay, enjoy more MAGA.
It’s not a binary choice.
Yeah but they pretend it is, like they pretend everyone who doesn’t suck the cock of Zionist rich assholes in blue flavor supports the Zionist rich assholes in red flavor.
neoliberal
The free-market capitalism variant of right-wing libertarianism? That’s news.
Oops! The mask slipped off!!
