One of several open source projects they’re helping fund happens to be run by a person like that. They’re funding is because of the open source project, but some people are very vocal that they’d rather the project not exist at all, and post about it every chance they get.
It’s like how some vegans can’t help but tell you loudly and at every opportunity that they’re vegan. Or some of the more insufferable Linux users in general. Venn diagram is probably a near circle with that linux group actually.
FOSS is a pretty small community in the grand scheme, if you avoided any project run by an objectionable individual, you couldn’t run much of anything.
There’s been plenty of posts about this particular issue all over if you go looking for it. I’d recommend doing your own research on whether you have a problem with it, and not rely on just a couple random commenters here, myself included.
They sent money to DHH, creator of Ruby and gave some lip service to his Omarchy OS. They were defending it with some big tent statements which didn’t go super well with the ones that had a bad opinion of him. DHH has great replacement theory views which is concerning and blogs about it.
Their Arch based Hyprland stuff was overblown though since it was just one weird mod and didn’t reflect the project’s leadership opinions.
I’m not in the habit of assuming companies that knowingly supported bigots, the benefit of the doubt. If there isn’t a clear, loud and non ambiguous walking back of their clear, loud and unambiguous support, then why would you, I or anyone else assume they have done so?
Because… of the paper trail? Rails World 2026 sponsorships are up and they are not in; they haven’t retweeted Omarchy rices since October; and… I admit, I can’t be sure they haven’t sent him another computer. Which — as you know — concludes the exhaustive trifecta of clear, loud and unambiguous support for bigots.
But you, I, and everyone else knows it’s not about what they do materially. As someone in a related thread actually put in writing, they ought to “denounce, when questioned”.
I’m not “meh” about denouncing bigots. If you’ve supported a bigot and you don’t actively and vocally walk it back, that’s not “meh”. That’s a refusal to acknowledge the issue and the harm done in normalising the voices and visibility of bigots
If we agree the issue is about denouncing alone, and not any material activity, maybe the intellectually honest thing would be to update
tech company funding racists and transphobes
They support and fund DHH
to say what you actually mean — a tech company that refused to take a stance outside of their purview. (As a company). Which, I agree, is not exactly a badge of honour.
(Not to mention they never, once, funded DHH directly. But sure, retweets win at the exchange rate.)
Could I have some context on this please?
Gardiner Bryant did a video on this: https://video.4d2.org/w/rPMMDnLBA4kVmScBD6w9K5
Read this blog post:
Framework does not sponsor Omarchy. They sponsor Hyprland, which is mentioned in the blog post and Rails World, a conference that DHH is part of.
List of projects sponsored by Framework:
One of several open source projects they’re helping fund happens to be run by a person like that. They’re funding is because of the open source project, but some people are very vocal that they’d rather the project not exist at all, and post about it every chance they get.
It’s like how some vegans can’t help but tell you loudly and at every opportunity that they’re vegan. Or some of the more insufferable Linux users in general. Venn diagram is probably a near circle with that linux group actually.
FOSS is a pretty small community in the grand scheme, if you avoided any project run by an objectionable individual, you couldn’t run much of anything.
There’s been plenty of posts about this particular issue all over if you go looking for it. I’d recommend doing your own research on whether you have a problem with it, and not rely on just a couple random commenters here, myself included.
They sent money to DHH, creator of Ruby and gave some lip service to his Omarchy OS. They were defending it with some big tent statements which didn’t go super well with the ones that had a bad opinion of him. DHH has great replacement theory views which is concerning and blogs about it.
Their Arch based Hyprland stuff was overblown though since it was just one weird mod and didn’t reflect the project’s leadership opinions.
https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986
https://crimier.github.io/posts/Framework-Omarchy/
I would add links to some of the conclusions in that same gargantuan thread:
https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986/1630
https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986/629
They support and fund DHH
The present tense “support” is not true. If unintentional, probably best to edit the reply?
I’d be happy to if I could find any evidence it were true.
That’s not how it works, right? You make the accusation; so you provide the evidence.
The claim implied in the present tense is that their relationship with DHH (insofar as there was one) is still ongoing.
I’m not in the habit of assuming companies that knowingly supported bigots, the benefit of the doubt. If there isn’t a clear, loud and non ambiguous walking back of their clear, loud and unambiguous support, then why would you, I or anyone else assume they have done so?
Because… of the paper trail? Rails World 2026 sponsorships are up and they are not in; they haven’t retweeted Omarchy rices since October; and… I admit, I can’t be sure they haven’t sent him another computer. Which — as you know — concludes the exhaustive trifecta of clear, loud and unambiguous support for bigots.
But you, I, and everyone else knows it’s not about what they do materially. As someone in a related thread actually put in writing, they ought to “denounce, when questioned”.
Meh.
I’m not “meh” about denouncing bigots. If you’ve supported a bigot and you don’t actively and vocally walk it back, that’s not “meh”. That’s a refusal to acknowledge the issue and the harm done in normalising the voices and visibility of bigots
If we agree the issue is about denouncing alone, and not any material activity, maybe the intellectually honest thing would be to update
to say what you actually mean — a tech company that refused to take a stance outside of their purview. (As a company). Which, I agree, is not exactly a badge of honour.
(Not to mention they never, once, funded DHH directly. But sure, retweets win at the exchange rate.)
(Oh and please look up Mette Frederiksen at some point.)
You mean Rails World?
Same guy, but no, I was referring to Omarchy and DHH himself.