Both games are currently on sale on Steam for about the same price ($59.99 CAD vs $58.49 CAD). I’ve never played either. I know they’re both supposed to be excellent games. My question is, for those who have played both, which do you prefer?
I don’t think I’ve got a ton of experience with similar games, though I don’t know for sure. I mostly play Souls games and Elder Scrolls games (Elden Ring and Skyrim are my two favourite games of all time). I don’t think there’s much carryover there but I could be wrong.
Hopefully this post could also help someone else who’s curious about the two games.
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If you’re strictly speaking about how many hours of playtime you will get out of it, than BG3. Both games are awesome though (in totally different ways).
I’m not usually a fan of turn based games.
Baldur’s Gate 3 hooked me. It was one of my favorite gaming experiences ever. I played through it two and a half times, consecutively.
I couldn’t get through Expedition 33. It’s very well done, but the story itself never hooked me. It just felt too abstract, like it never got me emotionally invested.
And the gameplay was too narrow. I’m sure it opened up after a while, but it would still be the same kind of turn based combat the whole time.
The story gets better, but it’s paced really weirdly and has some major issues. There’s a lot that’s not explained and the characters often just don’t react to what’s happening. The visuals and music are GORGEOUS though.
It just felt hard to relate to. The core premise is intriguing like I want to see where it goes, but it’s not intriguing like I feel personally invested in it.
Baldur’s Gate just had this perfect buildup, where you’re trying to solve a personal problem, and then it just keeps growing until you’re killing gods.
I think bg3 just went on sale.
I didn’t care for BG3 at all, don’t understand all the hype. Expedition 33 is genuinely great though.
I personally like Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 more than Baldur‘s Gate 3. I didn’t play BG3 until like 10 minutes into chapter 2. It’s just not appealing to me. I also didn’t play Skyrim beyond exploring and the main quest.
Baldurs Gate 3 only because it has numerous endings while Expedition 33 has 2. Otherwise difficult choice.
I played BG3 twice but I bounced off of E33. But I’m not as much of a fan of JRPGs so /shrug. I might go back to it at some point though.
For interesting game mechanics and replay value: Baldur’s Gate 3.
For beautiful music and nice scenery: Expedition 33.
If I had to choose, it would be BG3.
I like replay value, but music and atmosphere is very important to me.
Can you replay Clair Obscur?
How’s the soundtrack for BG3?
Clair Obscur does technically have an NG+, though I’d say it’s less of a focus than in Souls games. There is, however, quite a bit of foreshadowing and pieces of the story that you won’t understand on your first playthrough but that hits different the second time through. I personally opted to consume it by watching others play after I completed my own first playthrough, but I’d say there is grounds enough for a second playthrough if that’s important to you.
Unfortunately for you both are great in both. Though bg3 music is mostly atmospheric and 33 has multiple songs that went in to my regular playlist
You can replay any game, of course, but Clair Obscur’s gameplay is mostly on rails with basic JRPG combat repeated over and over again, so I wouldn’t bother. (Honestly, I found the gameplay boring within a dozen hours or so.) Its music is where it really shines. You could buy the soundtrack alone for a fraction of the price.
BG3’s atmosphere is good. The soundtrack is IMHO less inspired than Larian’s previous soundtrack and not really outstanding like the one in Clair Obsucr, but still decent. And as a game, BG3 has a lot more to offer.
Good to know, thanks.
Less inspired soundtrack?
Lives, all mortal lives, expire
Souls go to their dooms
In flame, forevermoreThat song is fire.
I recommend starting with bg3. It felt like more bang for the buck and the characters are chefs kiss. Both are soulful story-driven rpgs so can’t go wrong either way.
They’re very different, so you need to figure it out for yourself. Both are great, but we don’t know your tastes. I would recommend BG3 though, for what is worth.
However, if you’re strapped for cash, I would recommend playing indie games. They’re often more interesting than these larger budget games (though these two are exceptions to large budget games being shit), and they’re usually like $20 max. Most people can get more out of Factorio or Dwarf Fortress, for example, than they can out of these games, at a much lower price.
And tbh since OP said they’re generally more into Soulslikes and such, Silksong comes out in 2 days for $20
Yeah I read about that after posting. I’ll probably pick that up honestly, but these two games are both super tempting too.
I’m playing Baldur’s Gate III right now and I’m having a blast. Great game so far! Play with friends if you can and adopt roles, even funnier that way! (I’m a bard who is always trolling)
BG III is significantly longer, so if that’s important to you 🤷♂️ Otherwise both are great games
They’re both amazing games so I don’t think there’s a wrong choice here. I’d say art, music, and story go to Clair Obscur while gameplay, replayability, and sex scenes go to Baldur’s Gate 3.
You could get GamePass and play Expedition 33 at a cheaper price.
Also, three examples you quoted are both first person based, while BG3 is not.
Elden Ring is third person and Skyrim allows for both. I’m not picky on it though, I like both.
That’s a good point about GamePass though. I also learned that BG3 had a two hour demo on PS5 which I also own. So I might look into that too.
They’re very different games, in my opinion. If “bang for your buck” is most important then BG3 has objectively more content. It’s way longer, has way more side content and can support many playthroughs.
I think BG3 is a very good game, but it is not perfect and it is somewhat overrated. It’s a great game, but not the best game ever. It has a fair share of flaws, and while the writing is fine it’s still very much videogamey.
Expedition 33 is more of a work of art. It still has its problems too, but at all the critical points it delivers in spades. It’s got a great cast of characters, beautiful art direction and a story with resonant themes that will hit home with most people. Plus one of the best soundtracks of all time. It’s got fantastic presentation, some incredible set pieces and moments and phenomenal voice acting, direction and facial expressions. Even though the game is turn-based, the implementation of active elements like Parry and Dodge will feel very familiar to you coming from Elden Ring. In fact, one of the gameplay designers used to be a Sekiro speedrunner, and it shows.
From your frame of reference BG3 is more like Skyrim I’d say, in that it can almost be your “forever-game”. People put thousands of hours into it over dozens of playthroughs and it has a very vivid modding scene. Expedition 33 is all about that one, cinematic impactful playthrough. Maybe you play it a second time to pick up on foreshadowing and stuff like that.
For me personally I had a great time playing BG3, but I will eventually forget about it. I spent fewer hours in Expedition 33, but the experience will stay with me way longer.
That makes me lean a bit more towards Clair Obscur. Though both sound awesome.
You worded my reasoning for Clair Obscur much better than I could have.
OP: I loved Clair Obscur and highly recommend it. The story and gameplay is just so engaging, and it honestly might be the most beautiful game I’ve ever played in both art and soundtrack.
With the exception of the words “somewhat overrated”, I agree with this 100%. I have probably ~1000 hours in bg3 and just shy of 100 in expedition 33.
I wish I could play Expedition 33 for the first time again. It’s amazing. And it is very much a work of art.
With BG3 I can play it for the first time again by making different choices, adding mods, and choosing different classes. It’s a very fun video game with a lot of choices.
I’d highly recommend both. If someone is searching to fill between 40 and 100 hours (I like side quests, ok?) then Expedition 33 is absolutely amazing. If someone were looking to spend a couple of years before they have the money for another game then I can absolutely recommend BG3.
BG3 clearly has a lot of effort and polish put in, but overrated still resonates with me. I didn’t get out of act one because I find DnD mechanically tedious to play and the the gallery of rogues style characters more annoying than endearing.
Hey, that’s fair! Not everything speaks to everyone. World would be terribly boring if it did.
What makes you say BG3 is overrated? I totally understand it’s not necessarily for everyone, but it’s basically without peer in the genre if you’re huge into that style of game like I am. Now admittedly a component of why people say it’s so good is that Larian has had amazing community engagement so I guess that could be an argument. I do wish that Act 3 had gotten the more content they were thinking of but it’s better that they’ve had so much attention to detail I mean I’m not sure there’s a game that comes close in terms of how many choices you get to make.
The gameplay is good, but being shackled to D&D 5E is not ideal. I have a lot of issues with the writing of the game in general, Act 3 is also very bad. It’s still a great game, it’s just that people frequently claim it’s the best game of all time and I think that’s overrating it.
Fair points. I disagree that 5E isn’t ideal for this game specifically. Other systems are quite complex to implement in a game so less accessible. Imagine all the people who struggle with the 5e rules trying to play the game in pathfinder. I don’t play 5e anymore but I think it’s pretty decent for a crpg. I can agree that the writing isn’t perfect though. The character writing and such is quite good but the overall main plot is a bit weak I suppose. Sure there are parts of it that could be better but I don’t see why it shouldn’t be called one of the greatest games. It’s accessible for normie non crpg players, the characters are fun, there’s lots of choices and unlike say a Bethesda game they actually matter lol.
Somewhat unrelated how do you feel about divinity if you’ve played it in comparison to bg3? Do you think some of the issues with bg3 might be due to using existing IP if you like divinity better?
Admittedly it’s been a while since I played D:OS2, but I enjoyed that combat system quite a lot. No random success chance felt good, the action economy was more interesting and the skills had more freedom and interesting effects because they didn’t have to stick to existing 5E material. Magic/physical armor was an interesting strategic factor to play around and combat mostly felt good - although yes, it did frequently and infamously devolve into elemental surface spam.
Writing wise it’s all still in the patented Larian tone, which is sometimes funny but frequently unserious and sort of Marvel-esque for better or worse. I didn’t mind it as much in DOS2, but I was quite a few years younger when I played it. The romance sucked in that game too but at least one positive is I don’t remember every companion throwing themselves at you in a pathetic display of wish fulfillment protagonist-sexuality writing like they do in BG3.
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