• Opinionhaver@feddit.uk
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    16 days ago

    By grifters you mean the only people willing to say that it’s okay for men to be men? Gee, I wonder why young men go to them rather than the ones telling them to man down.

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        16 days ago

        Don’t act as if I said somethig I didn’t only because it’s then easier to argue against.

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          16 days ago

          The shark was harassing her.

          She said stop in animal language.

          If you are personalizing this: you are the problem. You are not a victim.

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      16 days ago

      No. We mean people like andrew tate. These guys aren’t men, They’re assholes. They don’t teach you how to be “men”, they teach you how to be assholes.

      No real man thinks he’s “high-value” and definitely doesn’t think women are worth less or deserve to be treated like shit.

      That’s not real men, that’s assholes.

      And yes, I’m gatekeeping the term “Man”.

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        15 days ago

        I’m not defending Andrew Tate here. My point is that when there is nobody else for these young men to look up to then they go to the only ones available.

        Name one good male role model you approve of.

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          15 days ago

          Bob Ross
          Steve Irwin
          Bill Nye
          Alton Brown
          Sam Reich
          Brenon Lee Mulligan
          Ify Nwadiwe
          Matt Mercer
          Jazza (Josiah Alan Brooks)

          Likely your dad/uncle/older brother, or a friend’s dad/uncle/older brother
          A teacher