cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/25133597

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There’s much more around as well!

Obligatory, fuck Spez

      • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        4 months ago

        Yeah, at this point the word “tankie” is used so liberaly that communists are just one type of “tankie”.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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        4 months ago

        “Tankie” is a pejorative that basically looks like an exact replica of McCarthy’s strawman of a Communist. The purpose of the term is to claim the accused that they genuinely hold those McCarthyian characteristics, regardless of reality. It shuts down conversation because it would be inconvenient to have those conversations, it’s a thought-terminating cliché more than a real thing.

        • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzEnglish
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          4 months ago

          Here are some thoughts:

          Marx said communism is stateless

          The state won’t wither away if you keep defending its right to use force

          The vanguard party must either accept revolution against themselves so that society can become more communist, or become reactionary tyrants

          Modern Russia isn’t fucking socialist, you don’t need to defend it anymore

          State capitalism isn’t socialism. State socialism requires robust democracy

          Every actual successful communist nation that reached communism didn’t have a vanguard state

          Being an enemy of the West doesn’t mean a country inherently deserves your support. That’s how voting works, it’s not how international relations work

          Trump is planning to displace the Palestinians and make Gaza a US colony, and Lemmy’s Marxist-Leninist community tried to help him

          Having a small movement with little power isn’t an excuse for making bad decisions. Take responsibility for your actions

          Drag is not seeking to have an argument about each and every one of these points. Drag is seeking to prove that “tankie bad” is not a thought terminating cliche as you said. Drag has plenty of thoughts, and has already discussed them exhaustively on this platform. And this list of thoughts isn’t an invitation to sealion.

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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              4 months ago

              Different leftists have a different idea of what constitutes the “State” and what “Statelessness” looks like. For Marxists, the State is the oppressive elements of class society like millitarized police and armies that can only go away once the world is fully publicly owned and planned, and becomes classless. Anarchists however have an issue with hierarchy, rather than class, and want full decentralization and horizontalism. For a Marxist, Anarchism isn’t “stateless” as it retains class distinctions (each commune is interested in its own success), Anarchists obviously would see Marxism as not truly stateless.

              This difference is why a lot of conversations go nowhere between some Marxists and Anarchists.