installing it successfully is an accomplishment

Not really with archiinstall, but indeed as you say reading the manual is an expectation. Their philosophy is “creating an environment that is straightforward and relatively easy for the user to understand directly, rather than providing polished point-and-click style management tools”, as well-summarized by Wikipedia.

wants to shape their OS and user experience as they think is best

tbh that goes for every distro. It’s just that Canonical is more hands-on with its approach. The major complaint with Snap besides performance issues is Canonical making it so that only the Snap versions of popular apps (most famously, the bundled Firefox) are available by default.

Intel Arc discrete GPUs released 2022

can i put it on a pickaxe and eat it?

nobody can’t just say “but the developers are working really hard”, or “a bunch of people actually use it” and make it all suddenly go away

That’s not what anyone’s saying either. AHemlocksLie said the article—instead of saying “we know better what the users want”—expresses frustration at caring and working a ton at (blind) accessibility only for people to say GNOME devs don’t care about (blind) accessibility; nowhere did they say that makes GNOME accessibility good. In the context of us understanding what AHemlocksLie said, I think it’s not aberating that we interpreted your reply the way we did.

squaresinger said what you think you said in their last reply. Look at the positive response to them.

You’re not criticizing. You’re saying “no matter how much people try to improve this, this will always be objectively worthless, because this is objectively worthless”. Nobody said you’re not allowed to criticize GNOME. Criticism includes specific directions to improve on and does not involve neglecting the size of the userbase to claim your personal preferences extend to objective truth.

Do you have to dunk on something just because it’s decidedly not for you? There are, in fact, many avid GNOME users who’ve tried Plasma or other DEs, including Linus Torvalds.

Even external and blind reviewers like Fireborn said GNOME was the only working option on Wayland.

Not just the installer but setting up stuff for a11y in general.

Sorry that I couldn’t see where you included that. Could you do me a favor and quote what components exactly need to have work done for a solid base? (brownie points if they refer to postmarketOS’s Plasma Mobile as a starting point) Note that I’m already aware of the driver layer issues. I’m really curious about this solid base you mention.

Okay, what more needs to be in postmarketOS Plasma in order so that it has a “solid base”?

Do you think Android is “just” Linux?

No? It’s not even much Linux besides the kernel. By my second sentence I meant “Isn’t [Plasma Mobile’s solid] base just GNU/Linux?”

Isn’t that the UI layer they was referring to? I would think that the AOSP layer as summarized by balsoft is the solid base, which is GNU/Linux plus some basic stuff in the DE.

Yeah I could’ve phrased that better. I was thinking more process management, coreutils, networking, device interfaces, rendering, window manager, etc.

That would make sense, though I was asking about the “solid base”, not the “driver layer”.

could you explain?

Not sure what you mean. Isn’t the base just GNU/Linux?

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same as why they keep source code public

Don’t you need to manually approve data transmission through USB?

does not look as cool as arson