Very long intro

Has ever actually ‘negotiated’ anything? Even before he was the American president.

Or has he always just threatened using his position as leverage?

This is definitely not it, some corrupt politician will start it all again under a different guise after some unfettered lobbying by meta and the like. But great for the here and now to know that the public sway can at least once beat the heavy lobbying…

How many of Irans ‘leaders’ were got in the terrorist attacks? If that were reciprocated I wonder if the world would blink.

Hopefully the beginning of the end of such a scumtastic company.

The warnings were there with many people trying to prevent it happening, but it was ignored enough to become what we have today. Globally.

What’s plug OS?

I assumed that was Linux. 🤷

Trump just used to having young girls rounded up and held against their will for him.

A few mentioned here, with them recommending mumble

https://alternativeto.net/software/discord-app/?origin=eu

Doubt it was most grandparents. Somebody trying to keep the pot stirring.

dbzero0 breaks rule 7.

I think I love Trump and his government purely because they are so blatant at corruption, they expose all of those before them and will surely make everyone question those that follow.

If not… Then I guess that’s it.

If there is an option for Americans to disrupt the republican - democrat party swap, then please, please disrupt the hell out of it in the next election.

According to the wiki page you linked, incogni are owned by surfshark.

If it was any other paper, including weekly world news and the national enquirer, I might take notice. It’s the express. I personally have never read anything accurate or correct in that paper.

I agree. A proper counter movement is needed.

Big American corporations are heavily lobbying EU council and governments. Transparency is not working, EU council are rolling back on GDPR, massively eroding our privacy, which is irreversible.

With the likes of Trump in charge the US are not trustworthy with any data. The data that they already take illegally is too much.

The UDHR article 12 is supposed to protect our privacy.

We need a counter movement big enough to scare the politicians when they start bending to the Big-Tech. They are not in the least bit worried as things stand now.

Peter Hummelgaard (among others) and his arrogance does not seem even a little concerned about his position.

https://www.corporateeurope.org/en/2025/11/roll-back-digital-rights-prepared-secrecy

Yes, that’s the same with many things. No counter movement.

We will see how transparent it all is

https://transparency.eu/briefing-lobby-transparency-in-the-eu/

At a guess, I’d imagine big tech companies are lobbying as most of the information that they use comes from data gathering. Using data directly from texts etc. Leaves them open to court cases.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/12/eu-gdpr-data-law-us-tech-giants-digital

The options are limitless to the politicians regarding money making opportunities pushing x,y and z through once our private correspondence and devices are being scanned.

For example, in years to come insurance companies could refuse to pay out on all sorts of claims using that data. Doctor may have recommended you walk a mile a day and change your diet. You don’t do it, or just miss a day, your life insurance policy is voided. Car crash not your fault, no payout because you missed something else etc.

I couldn’t begin to to guess the amount of ways that this information could be used, but it’s a complete u-turn from what the EU was saying only a few years ago

https://gdpr.eu/what-is-gdpr/

They still recommend using signal - but only internally.

Which in itself is bizarre.

And exempting themselves from being scanned is just showing what they really think.

The timeline is here

Currently Denmark pushing it, they hold the EU presidency at the minute. Their minister for justice - Peter Hummelgaard is responsible for the big push and the wording. Specifically trying to pull the wool over the general public. Ireland are next (they take over in January) And the minister for justice in Ireland (Jim O’Callaghan) is also in favour of it.

U.N. right to privacy

Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights - Right to privacy in the digital age

U.N. - Universal Declaration of Human Rights

they would not be trying again if they did

It’s not the bureaucrats pushing it that are the problem, Hummelgaard is embedded so far up his own ass that nothing could change his mind to the realities of what he’s proposing.

It’s convincing the swing voters that he’s changing nothing other than the wording, but also that the general public, when made aware en-masse, would not allow the politicians to exempt themselves from this.

They have already rethought it a few times. The changes made have been to encourage the politicians to vote yes. One of the biggest, of not the biggest is to make them exempt from scanning. Enough questions in the right places and at the right times, would not give them any choice.

How could they defend adding an exemption clause for themselves into such an invasion of privacy.

No, I just wasn’t sure if you knew how the proposal is attempted. There are far too many to simply remove to stop it. The majority will still continue their term, and if with this mindset, could still push it through.

A good way to help them rethink it, is to have their devices scanned too. The only way this is going forward, is if they think that they are exempt from scanning.