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  • Renounciation costs (or at least used to cost) a few thousand dollars. That’s money you quickly recoup by not paying any US taxes.

    Besides, I don’t see why I should pay Uncle Sam anything of what I earn abroard, living abroad and working in a foreign company, not using any American services or infrastructure. The only rational Uncle Sam has to offer for extracting taxes from US citizens residing abroad is essentially “Pay up or else…” That’s a racket, pure and simple: even if it wasn’t financially sound, I don’t pay racketeers.

    What other pros/cons are there?

    Not being an American is a big pro. Your conscience is less dirty.

    And as of Apr 14, 2025, the safety of not living in a dictatorship where the rule of law doesn’t apply anymore is also a big plus.

    And while not directly linked to citizenship proper, living abroad offers many advantages: working healthcare, a decent education for your children, publc services that work… Yes, you pay a lot of taxes in Europe, but you know what you get out of it. The quality of life in Europe is much higher than in the US. And - I know it sounds weird but it’s true - you don’t need the constant background paranoia you need to live in the US. You don’t realize the paranoia is there until you leave and then it lifts from you. It’s a real thing.

    But of course you can experience all that while still being an American. Not being American is mostly a matter of refusing to be associated with - and finance - an amoral society.





  • Agreed.

    All I was saying was, no need to say Allegedly here. People who patronize Luigi Mangione forums have a pretty good idea who they think did it, they actually agree with what they think he did, and there isn’t much point in reminding them that Luigi is technically innocent until proven guilty.

    Oh well… At least Luigi will have his day in court, unlike the poor sods who were shipped off to Salvadorian concentration camps without due process by the Trump regime. In this weird day and age, Luigi might be luckier than most in that his constitutional rights will be respected.