I rarely do. I don’t understand the point of it. I just ate and now you want me to eat more? If anything - we should’ve started with the dessert.

I don’t. That’s what makes it even more bizzare. I don’t get what they have to gain from trying to stain an anonymous account.

I hope you got squared away ok

Nah, they’re still on it - and considering how much you’ve been discussing AI here too, it’s more than likely you’ve run into them as well.

Being careful with your words helps to some extent, but then there are people like this who don’t really care what you actually say. If they perceive you to be on the wrong side of an issue they care deeply about, they slap this cartoon-villain stereotype on you and treat it as fact. It’s not about what you said - it’s about who they think says those kinds of things. It’s intentional misinterpretation and ad hominems all the way down. No point even trying to engage with their insane troll logic.

That hasn’t really been my experience. Lemmy seems nicer on the surface because most of the userbase is ideologically aligned, so conflict is less likely. But once you make the wrong noises about something, plenty of people show up ready to prove just how mean and horrible they can actually be.

Also, on Reddit I never had anyone follow me around trying to cause reputational damage by spreading false accusations about me.

LLMs not being AI is one of the most common confidently wrong statements I see spread here as fact pretty much every day.

We’ve had AI systems since 1956.

It simply refers to any system designed to perform a cognitive task that would normally require a human. For an LLM that task is generating natural language. For an Atari chess opponent it’s playing chess. They’re both still AI - narrow AI, but AI nonetheless.

People seem to expect general intelligence from these systems, and when they don’t get it, statements like this pop up. But AGI is not synonymous with AI. It’s also an AI system, yes, but just a subcategory of AI - same as GenAI is. No company claims to have a true AGI system.

No. That would imply belief in the kind of free will I don’t think exists.

You can eat all the important bits of the soup with a fork.

I doubt that it was a genuine question. Looking at their post history I’m suspecting that they’re just posting about controversial topics in hopes to start up something.

I turned my attention to the aggression and the aggression went away.

It’s impossible to stay angry at anything for longer than a few seconds unless you keep feeding that anger with the stories you’re telling yourself. You don’t have to keep telling those stories - unless you want to stay angry, of course.

Remember that smart decision you made while angry? Yeah, me neither.

Reading through this thread has been a bizarre experience - I genuinely couldn’t have imagined the amount of pushback you get here just for speaking up for people struggling with this. It seems exactly the kind of thing I’d have expected deep compassion for, given the userbase here.

Still, my conclusion is that much of it boils down to the term “addiction” - since it’s a medical term, people seem to think that once you medicalize it, you’re paving the way to ban it.

Personally I don’t care what term we use. If people prefer “compulsive porn use,” then fine. For me the point has always been the lived experience of what people mean when they talk about living with a porn addiction - even if it officially doesn’t count as one. In my opinion it does, because it checks virtually all the boxes of the standard definition: you need more of it, you seek out more extreme stuff, you get cravings when you stop, and you keep going long after the negatives have started to outweigh the positives. If that’s not addiction, then I don’t know what is.

and the mods have promoted right wing candidates.

What does that have to do with anything?

Are you seriously not able to acknowledge that some people simply want to fix their own lives and don’t care what others do with theirs? Does everyone talking about their porn addiction have a secret agenda? Is that really what you think?

Nobody here is advocating for banning porn or even restricting anyone’s access to it. I’ve never met a single person struggling with what I call porn addiction - whether it clinically qualifies as addiction or not - who wants to restrict other people’s access to it.

There doesn’t need to be any ideology attached to one’s personal desire to quit or cut back on their porn consumption.

It’s exceedingly rare for anyone to acknowledge their error online these days - and for that you have my respect.

Your justifications for these views fall quite deep into the conspiracy land.

Wanting to quit / cut back on porn is not synonymous with being anti-porn and “hypersexuality” is not an official medical diagnosis neither.

What would you like it to be called then when someone spends 4+ hours a day, 5+ days a week masturbating to porn, feels terrible about it, tries to quit, and then immediately caves and falls right back into the same cycle?

How do you think a person like that feels when they’re hit with all these accusations the second they open up about wanting their normal life back? Reading these comments honestly makes me sick. Just fucking imagine the backlash if almost any other mental-health issue affecting tens of millions of people got ridiculed here the way porn addiction does.

I’m sure you can find recovering alcoholics who equally advocate for alcohol prohibition, but you’d have to be out of your damn mind to jump on someone the moment they mention cutting back on drinking and start accusing them of being a puritan or whatever. Yet somehow that passes for sound logic when it’s about someone trying to quit porn.

Yeah, totally my bad that you’re being a mean jerk.

I was being facetious and taking your side - thanks for insulting me for it.

It never ceases to amaze me how incredibly dismissive people on this platform are toward those suffering from porn addiction. Just imagine telling an alcoholic there’s nothing wrong with drinking beer or that they should “just get some hobbies.”

I can only come up with very cynical reasons for why, of all addictions, this particular one gets ridiculed - even by people who probably consider themselves empathetic and compassionate.

But don’t you see how many upvotes that got them?