You’re right. My mistake. I was going off memory and 2009 came to mind, but now that you mention it I do remember hearing about tech for the 2008 election- but I heard that years later, after cambridge analytica. All’s to say, it was emerging around that time and it wasn’t a big, public announcement. People around the epicenter knew but most were in the dark. I know i was, till the mid 2010’s. Since then I have 0 trust in big tech/most corporations, but I’ve definitely made my share of mistakes and wish there were more protections/public education.

Yes, I know. As I mentioned in another reply, I was mentioning it only to give a sense of timeline and hype. Not a justification. Nice gotcha, but misses the broader points.

Team 13-month-calendar assemble!

I haven’t done enough digging on metric time, but if it’s implemented as a UTC/global time I can get behind that. I’m sick of timezones and DST.

I take your point and I don’t disagree about personal responsibility or that there are a lot of people who ignored all the warnings. And it’s all the more frustrating to be ignored, or labeled as paranoid, by those same people. I was mostly reacting to the pervading unsympathetic response I was seeing.

A lot of people in the privacy community are seeing this as an established professional or someone with the experience/insight/know-how, and from that vantage point it seems so obvious. But it’s a journey. I can think of a few moments that woke me up to privacy and it’s importance. Most of those were just tinkering on personal projects. There’s no general education on this stuff and I really don’t think many folks have had the fortune to encounter this info in a way that they grasp, but maybe I’m kidding myself - i’ll leave room for that. I mentioned Time for a sense of the timeline and sentiment, not as a meaningful endorsement. I know I was ignorant about most of this stuff as late as 2014 and I still have so many gaps.

Maybe this 23andme BS is an experience that turns many more towards privacy, in which case i hope they’re met with a welcoming message like, “that sucks, this is why we have to educate and protect ourselves” instead of an alienating “no shit, idiot.”

Hindsight is 20/20. ITT lots of folks proud of themselves for not falling into this trap, but try to understand, 23andme was named “invention of the year” by Time in 2008. That’s before [edit: around the time] google and facebook had begun monetizing private data. Data privacy, or even the power of data itself, was hardly appreciated by private companies let alone in the public consciousness.

Orphans, people with absent parents, decedents of slaves, the list goes on for folks who would understandably go for an affordable way to access their genetic history. Sure, there were plenty of folks since then who had all the information and still went for it, but what about all those who became aware of it too late and when they requested their data be deleted were told it would be kept for 3 years!

I’m saddened to see more victim blaming here than anger at the ToS/privacy policy fuckery and a complete lack of consumer protection.

Scammers about to try a new angle instead of the tired, old: “Hey (some random name)”

Yes, but we’re talking about 2 different moments. 3D software was in it’s infancy in the 90’s. Things were evolving rapidly, and you’re paying a premium for basically developing prototypes. Every innovation, additional competitor, or even merger will likely bring prices down.

More comparable to today’s desktop/software market, is after autodesk gobbled up the market in the 2000’s. They might offer discounts on bundles after acquiring a new software, but then they’d often stagnate or abandon development shortly thereafter and they gradually made moves to spend very little on dev while continuing to charge customers. So autodesk’s actions were hardly a consumer (prosumer?) victory. I’m simply saying they were increasingly hostile to their customers until blender became competitive.

May be similar to the 3d software world where autodesk created a monopoly and could charge around 5k USD for something like Maya, and then go the adobe route and only rent once innovation dies off. Only when Blender started getting more hype and attention did autodesk start offering cheaper indie versions and licenses.

Bill Gates the farmer?

Just trying to find a decent link led me past so many deceptive headlines like Bill Gates owns a lot of American farmland, but not the majority.

So… he’s the largest private owner of US farmland , but he doesn’t own a majority-- What a relief /s

For most of the US, true. Though I think it’s fuzzier if you work it into a commute or other errands. I’ve moved a lot and favor places that have grocery stores, libraries, parks, etc within walking distance. Get groceries and a brisk walk. Win win.

Plus delivery usually takes less than an hour when you do it yourself.

Stumbled across a game that teaches the command line as you play it. Seems like a good place to share https://gitlab.com/slackermedia/bashcrawl

personally, writing and saving simple scripts - IE project based learning - is how i got time in the saddle.