• apftwb@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    In the name of transparency, the DoD released a video of one of the survivors attempting to complete his drug smuggling run from the Venezuela coast to the Florida. See below.

    David Hasselhoft scene from spongebob movie

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      4 months ago

      You mean like the Democratic former servicemembers who made a video telling members of the military not to follow illegal orders before the President said they should be killed?

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      4 months ago

      Dude seriously, I’m genuinely asking, do you not see ANYTHING wrong with us using the US FUCKING MILITARY to bomb fishing ships in another countries territory?

      1. They have shown NO PROOF that these are drug vessels

      2. Even if they were, are you just ok with executing people for crimes? No trial? No conviction?

      Like honestly does it simply not bother you that the military is being used for executions like this? Not even just destroying the “drug” boats, but circling back and killing the survivors?

      Come on man, I refuse to believe a rational decent person could be ok with this bullshit.

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      4 months ago

      ….what?

      A bunch of congressfolk came out talking about the tape the other day and it sure seemed like it wasn’t the democrats defending it.

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    4 months ago

    I think this is his way of displaying that he knows he’s totally fucked, he followed an illegal order, and is trying to get away with it.

    Fuck him, fuck Hegseth and fuck Trump

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    4 months ago

    “Sir, we have it under good authority that the orange donut the survivor is clutching to is in fact, more cocaine

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    4 months ago

    An angle i havent seen anyone latch onto yet is the fact that the US is trying to dictate to the world what is or isnt allowed to be transported between countries. If 2 countries decide they want cocain and heroin to be legal and want to trade it who is the US to step in and tell them no. How long until this spirals to other commodities that arent considered “drugs”

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      I’m somewhat split on this

      Basically you’re right, the US should not dictate what other countries transport between themselves, but…

      There are more than enough materials that indeed should not be allowed to be shipped anywhere. Heroine is one of those materials, there is no good application for that, period. Anything needed for actual medical or research purposes can be acquired via other channels. Two countries wanting to transport cocaine are up to no good, thatuch should be obvious.

      The bigger problems are that these assholes act as if criminals are the same as a country. You’re not at war with criminals, we have a justice system for that. Criminals go to court, and a judge and jury will sentence them and their main function is not to incarcerate the criminal, it’s to ensure the innocent aren’t incarcerated. You just cut all that away and started murdering possible criminals, but definitely a bunch of innocent citizens.

      Murdering innocent civilians is nothing new for the US, but it is new that it is done so brazenly, so openly, and worst of all, with pride.

      And basically nothing is done to stop this. These no kings protests had a net zero effect, nothing changed

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        While I go through logic like this, it all comes down to trust. This administration has not offered any evidence that they are actuating affecting heroin trafficking nor are they allowing due process. It’s straight up murder without due process or evidence. We only have their public claim and their rhetoric has too much history of flat out lying, too much history of complete disregard for human life.

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      Because cartels have A LOT of money. Money can be used to influence everything. The US also has a lot of money. The US is deciding who’s money gets to influence everything. It’s a power struggle.

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    4 months ago

    I have no idea why this admiral would be willing to fall on the stupidest sword imaginable for pete god damned hegseth. Like… are they offering him a lot of money or something? How flimsy is his sense of honor that he’d be willing to sell out his entire reputation for that?

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      Maybe he really is this shitty. Remember that the guy who used to have this job retired a few months ago. Maybe this guy was picked to replace him because he’s just as much of an asshole as the rest of them.

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        IIRC, the previous guy left (don’t remember if willingly) because he questioned the legality of what they were doing. You can all but guarantee that his replacement is a huge piece of shit.

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      You read too many Clancy novels, honor and reputation don’t buy Porsches. He’ll get some sweet bullshit diplomatic post or hired back as consultant.

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        More like he signed up to do this job and thats why they gave it to him in the first place. His predecessor retired recently.

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    4 months ago

    “Instinct to survive? No, they must be struggling valiantly to get that cocaine shipment squared away.” -People who should not be in charge of decisions for themselves

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      The perfect little insect for the Trump regime military; see all innocent civilians as legitimate targets, and make sure there is absolutely no living thing left alive in a square mile from the site.

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    It’s like someone assured these motherfuckers that we are all absolutely drooling stupid, the continuous stream of moronic statement about this incident is mind numbing

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    Smuggling cocaine isn’t a valid defence of the first strike, why would you think it’s a valid reason for the second one?

    We don’t fucking issue death sentences for trafficking drugs.

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      We especially don’t issue death sentences for actions taken outside the country, or without trial.

      Wait, we’re in the upside-down. We especially do issue death sentences in those conditions.

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        Aren’t they in international waters, anyway? They’re not even under the purview of US law. They can carry as many drugs as they want.

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        Haven’t proven ANY of these boats have had drugs on them. And if they did this is a good way to fight an endless war, by waiting patiently for the grunts to leave the trench and making no advance and gaining no intel.

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          If they want people to believe them, they need to share a sanitized version of their intel, and send a cutter over to pull heroin out of the water. Go through the effort of identifying the victims and justify that they were indeed cartel members

          I realize all of that can be faked too, and I’m not sure I trust this administration even if they showed ”evidence”, but at least it would be an attempt to justify murder