• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    This is another step in Project 2025

    Provoke outrage with the mass deportations, then use that outrage to justify marshal law and deploying the military.

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    The biggest national security threats are Trump, the Heritage Foundation, MAGA, and Musk

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      Not only to the nation, The entire world, Humanity, literally anything that is alive.

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        There might be some bigger threats to the world elsewhere. Ever wonder WHY we’re sending so much money to- shot by a sniper

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        Hey don’t trow indigenous groups, animals, fungi and plants it to this.

        The problem seems to be specifically people that live with computers.

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          I think you misunderstood. They are saying Trump and those in his cult/admin are a danger to everyone and everything. Do you think the MAGA movement isn’t a threat to indigenous groups, animals, or nature at large? Just the way they’ve already attacked environmental protections should show they check every checkbox.

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            Oh indeed, i thought they where saying humans are toxic and over generalized to “everyone alive” holding part of the blame.

            Definitely misunderstood.

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    So the trump administration is fully admitting that the insurrection attempting to block the certification of the Presidential election 2021 on Jan 6 was open rebellion?

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      Holly shit. I hadn’t seen that last image you posted before. I didn’t realize the Jan 6 insurrectionist brought flexcuffs. That is quite disturbing. Who the fuck were they planing to kidnap or take hostage with those flexcuffs?

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      I know this is sarcasm but, sadly, they don’t. I have talked to a few of them. Some either say it is patriot8c and others said it didn’t happen.

      You can’t win

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        others said it didn’t happen.

        Who is it they acknowledge trump pardoned when he got into office? If it didn’t happen, then there as no one to pardon. Yet trump came out and gleefully pardoned the lot of them. If it was “antifa” that did it, why did trump pardon antifa?

        Keep in mind I’m not questioning you on this but them, and I know the mind of a MAGAt is finely tuned to support cognitive dissonance.

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          You can’t argue with them. They are cultists. They believe what they believe. They will breath in his farts and say it smells like 🌈.

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      They admit no such thing.

      “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” - Frank Wilhoit (not the political scientist who passed away in 2010, a younger one who is alive still).

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        You know they would say that it was stolen, don’t you?

        Sure, so they would be saying that if the government arrives at an answer that they believes violates the law, then a violent riot is permissible.

        Wouldn’t that same opinion then justify a violent riot in LA (if there actually was one) if the protesters believed due process law was being violated?

        They can’t logically or rationally say one is right and the other wrong.

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          Wouldn’t that same opinion then justify a violent riot in LA (if there actually was one)

          No, in their opinion it wouldn’t because cops were protecting America from criminals.

          if the protesters believed due process law was being violated?

          Those among them who don’t know what the rule of law is can’t care, those who know don’t

          They can’t logically or rationally say one is right and the other wrong.

          They don’t have to be logical or rational, deciding what makes an exception is exactly why they’re in power.

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      Heh. One picture says what’s on most every reasonable Americans mind.

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    Governor Newsome should release a statement that he and his cabinet will be discussing the effects of a possible change in State structure. If the world’s 4th largest economy were to secede from the Union, frumpy would be screwed.

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      Texas will be so pissed. They’re threatening to do it for centuries but can’t pull it off.

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      Just wondering: if California just stopped paying federal taxes would the net effect be the same? That way they haven’t gone through the process of seceding, but at the same time they are refusing to entirely be part of the union.

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        Also, it was the conservatives who helped weaken unions by making dues optional but forcing the union to represent non-payers anyways. Sounds perfect here. California can just stop paying, but get the protection and benefits of a tax paying state.

        Plus, conservatives would absolutely fucking love this if it was Texas threatening not to pay taxes if their money goes to doctors who preform abortions or some other equally absurd shit.

        Since we have allowed the Presidency to become a joke why not our whole nation. /S

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        If California stopped paying taxes, most of the south would be screwed.

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    The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.

    • Catch-22, Joseph Heller
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    ELI5, If Republicans in general don’t want federal control, they want de-regulation, then why they are supporting federal control of California?

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      They are only against federal control when it’s them who are being controlled. They are fine with it happening to other people. It’s how they can claim to be pro freedom out of one side of their mouth and anti-freedom with the other. Laws for thee, none for me.

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        This is extremely important to understand. As fun as it is, we really need to move away from the gotchas. The right wing are not consistent because they do not have an ideology. They are simply reactionary.

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      They want to use the government to attack their enemies.

      Like a switch, as soon as a Democrat is in office they will all be lying about wanting “small government.”

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      Because the Republican Party of smaller government and lower taxes no longer exists. Now we have the MAGA Nazis, who are for lower taxes on the wealthy, higher taxes on the poor/working class, and an much larger, extremely oppressive authoritarian police state. California has a lot of money, and a lot of foreigners, and MAGA wants to control it all.

      As far as deregulation goes, that will go to the corporations that pay for it. Corps that play ball will get deregulation, corps that don’t play ball, will have their regulations tightened.

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        You just described every authoritarian state that has existed since the beginning of humanity. Unfortunately, I must conclude that the United States is no longer a democratic country. I do not see how the citizens of the United States will free themselves from the clutches of the tyranny that will occur in the coming weeks/months.

        Authoritarian states are created overnight, but disappear after a long agony. Corporations turn into clients of the dictator because that is the only way to survive, decent people will become mute passive supporters of the tyranny with the thought “I am not like <them> and I have nothing to fear”.

        Perhaps the only bright spot is that the dictator is old and has no chance of ruling for the next 10, 20, 30 years. Unless the system they are setting up is super efficient and will allow the formation of an Autocracy, a dynasty created by dictatorship. Knowing the efficiency of the American system, that is a real possibility and the next elections will be a farce.

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    Can California please just withhold taxes already and put this country out of its misery?

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        That’s not completely true.

        Your employer withholds your federal taxes from your paycheck.

        The state of California employs a lot of people. The state can intercept those funds, refusing to send them to the IRS. That obviously only affects state employees, but it is feasible.

        The state could go on to act as a staffing agency, “hiring” workers whose labor is then contracted to private businesses. The state would then be doing the withholding for their employees, and the business would be contracting with the state.

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          I can see that on the coast, but I don’t think the eastern 2/3 of the state (though under half the population) would go along with it.

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        Yep. Totally true. You are born, and the taxes are automatically deducted from your existence. There is no way for a state to change the amount paid, or to whom the taxes are paid. Absolutely impossible.

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          I’m all for CA residents paying their federal taxes to the state, but that’s going to require a lot of faith that the state will protect them from the feds.