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    Yes. And I am being serious.

    When JD Vance has a Congress that will back him (which he will have in 10 months), he, and a majority of the Cabinet, can invoke Section 4 of the 25th amendment. He can declare the President incapable of performing his duties, and step up to the plate. Congress then has the opportunity to decide whether to support his coup, or reinstate Trump to the presidency.

    To be successful, he will have to immediately blame Trump for attempting to block the midterm elections, and appoint a special prosecutor to look into the full scope of Trump’s numerous, unadjudicated crimes.

    For (most) of the next 10 months, JD Vance will have to continue to appear to support Trump’s presidency, and Trump will have to continue his own Trumpiness.

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      Hell also have to pull off the VP debate and appear somewhat reasonable for 10 months. While still supporting the administration. It’ll be a balancing act, he can’t be a full on cheerleader and switch at the last second.

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    yes, a General Strike… if the people of the USA stop working for a week, that would be enough to cripple the Orange pedophile supporters

    In the meantime, you can do very easy stuff like deleting your Meta (Facebook, Instagram, etc), Google, Xitter and Amazon accounts… but that seems like too much to ask of the American people… better descend further into fascism and drag the world down than stop using X

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      Europe is its own path. You guys will have internet id before USA the way you guys are going.

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        Half of the USA already have internet id in some form or another… also, I am not in Europe

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      if the people of the USA stop working for a week, that would be enough to cripple the Orange pedophile supporters

      They would just call it a terrorist attack from antifa. Americans are terrified of an uprising from black people, it’s why they all have 12 guns.

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        They would just call it a terrorist attack from antifa. Americans are terrified of an uprising from black people

        even better

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        Man it’s so cute when you people think you know what you’re talking about

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      Holy shit, this doesn’t work. It’s 2026. You cannot get the runway you need to ever make this happen. None of you even bothered to create the runway. You handed the runways over to the people you want to protest.

      The very last thing you should be doing is deleting any of that. You need to be creating multiple accts. Building groups. Building hype. Spreading information and stopping theirs. You have no business ever suggesting a general strike until you solve how to control the messaging.

      General strike is maximum effort. Online action is much lower effort. If you can not find success at lower effort activities, you’ll never get success at higher effort. You don’t walk into a marathons without running 5km just because you have big feelings. Need to work up to it.

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      A general strike would be effective but it will never happen because there is no safety net. For most people, participating in a general strike would mean starving. Most people in the US live paycheck to paycheck. If they don’t work then they don’t get paid then they don’t get to eat and likely wind up evicted when they can’t recover from the missed pay. Our oligarchs have worked very hard to build a system where a general strike is functionally impossible.

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        do you think people all over the world who have held a general strike were all well off and had plenty of savings to hold them through it??

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    Three things: 1. A general strike. 2. Vote them out in the mid-terms this November. 3. Full scale revolution.

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          The Orange pedophile already executed a coup to not give up the power on his first term… expecting he would give up power willingly now is just “ignorant and proud of it”

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          Not necessarily given up. I just don’t think this entire facade called democracy will solve anything. I’m entirely open to other solutions, like the ones you suggested.

          Though it should also be noted I don’t live in the USA, so I won’t be standing side by side with you guys. Not physically anyway.

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            Though it should also be noted I don’t live in the USA, so I won’t be standing side by side with you guys. Not physically anyway.

            In lieu of that, please petition your government to immediately recognize and support any future uprising against the US government.

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            You’re right, votes havent mattered probably since computerized voting machines have existed.

            But still, do it anyway. You never know.

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            I guess it should be noted as well…I don’t live in the USA and am not American. What are the odds we’re all discussing America as foreigners? That would be too crazy, even for this timeline. All the best.

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    Now that the corpos and billionaires know that they can be openly and brazenly corrupt and greatly accelerate their schemes, we will never see a return to the politics of old where hiding it minimized profit regardless of who the next puppet figurehead is. You cannot un-ring the bell.

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      It’s basically this.

      With the US’ bonkers electoral system, and abysmal education levels, you’re pretty much cooked.

      You have an oligarchy, a captured state, a corporatocracy. Oligarchs tell voters to vote for the leader who will benefit them most.

      Research suggests that it doesn’t actually take that many people to convince those oligarchs that another leader will be in their best interests. For example, if 3% of people who regularly buy things from Amazon and visit facebook and use ChatGPT, stopped doing those three things indefinitely by switching to alternatives, that would likely be enough.

      However, I just don’t believe that’s achievable.

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    Yes. Maga gets tremendous power from 2 main sources. 1. Money. 2. Social media, and also religion, but not much you can do about that.

    So, like Kimmel situation, disney had profit in firing him, once peiple boycotted, it did not, so had to bring him back.

    You need to make siding with trump non-profitable.

    That means, you, an individual, even if you think your choices dont matter, you need to boycott every company that supports trump, no matter how hard it hurts you. Now, it does t need to be a complete boycott. But as much as possible. For example, there are suitable replacements for chrome, and google search. But not really for YouTube. You don’t need the stock for these companies to be zero. You just need the projections to be significantly negative.

    This is especially important for the social media maga controls.

    They are using it to brainwash others. Not you. They know you cant be persuaded to become maga. So they let you think it is free, and subtly control what you’re allowed to see, and they corrupt young people, spread lies, teach to hate women, etc… they wont show the ones they are brainwashing all the truths you know about maga.

    They have this power because everyone continues to use their platforms. So number one thing is to stop using meta, twitter, and tiktok, no matter how much you love those. Force people to use signal if they want to contact you, not WhatsApp.

    Organize irl, whatever local movement you align with that fits into being pro democracy and freedom and equality for all.

    When people organize, they can donate, and fund. This lets you go and protest on congress’ front lawn. You can have buses, trains, free food, things people need to come and go, and create a sustained peaceful protest. And MAGA will see that. The administration will be forced to call them paid actors. So be vocal. Get pro democracy flags for your car. Put them up in your homes. Maga can control what the brainwashed see on social media, but not irl. So you need to be vocal irl. Social media makes everyone think all the world agrees with them.

    Do all of those things, and trump will lose tremendous power.

    Even if you act alone. Make the sacrifice. Show by example, and remember those videos of one man dancing alone, and then another joins and another, and once people see the movement they join in. Start the wave.

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    Being allowed to run again, despite being a felon highlights a glaring gap in the ability of US politics to prevent shit like this from happening.

    In the UK some right wing manosphere influencer keeps saying how he’s gonna run for Mayor of London (Ant Middleton).

    People are gleefully pointing out that his convictions for assaulting a police officer and tax evasion bar him from the role.

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      Excluding people from running for office because of criminal conviction provides an incentive for authoritarians in power to prosecute their political opponents, so it’s a question that definitely has two sides. :/

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        Exactly. By the same reasoning, there is no reason to bar felons from voting, or even incarcerated citizens. Prisoners have as much right to government representation as anyone else.

        Voting is a basic right in this nation, and it should not be removed for ANY reason. We should be automatically registered to vote at birth, with the registration automatically validating on your 18th birthday. You shouldn’t have to register, declare a party, or prove your identity. If you are an American citizen, you can vote, period.

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          prove your identity. If you are an American citizen

          how do you verify someone is a citizen if you don’t make them prove their identity?

          I live in an EU country and absolutely do have to prove my identity when I vote. I do not have to “register to vote”, or more precisely, I’m already required to register my residence with the government, which doubles as voter registration (the government knows my DOB and citizenship, so knows whether I meet those criteria). Getting disenfranchised for criminal convictions is a thing here, but only very rarely and AFAIK only when specifically sentenced to it.

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            Basically, it’s like you, it’s proved by your residence. That way people can’t vote twice. It used to be that you only had to show up with a utility bill in your name, at your address, and that was enough ID, and that worked just fine for decades. They would check you off their list, you’d vote, and go about your day.

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        And this is where ensuring total independence of the judiciary comes in.

        Its insane to me that the president can pick a Supreme Court judge.

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            This is how we do it in the UK.

            https://www.judiciary.uk/about-the-judiciary/our-justice-system/jud-acc-ind/jud-appts/

            For Supreme Court justices the selection process is slightly different in that the Minister of Justice convenes the selection panel (constitution is defined in law)

            1.the President of the UKSC, who will be the chair of the selection commission; 2.a senior UK judge (who is not a UKSC Justice) nominated by the President of the UKSC; 3.a member of the Judicial Appointments Commission for England & Wales; 4.a member of the Judicial Appointments Board for Scotland; and 5.a member of the Northern Ireland Judicial Appointments Commission.

            Members of the JAC are senior civil servants and by law must remain politically neutral.

            Whilst the Civil Service oversees selection, politicians are kept out of it. Individuals apply for the advertised roles, there are no political nominations and justices don’t serve for life.

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          He can’t, he can only nominate them. Then the Senate, a separate branch of government, investigates, and approves them. It doesn’t have to be a rubber stamp, and in the past it often hasn’t been.

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            Interesting, but that is still very political. The judges are effectively being selected by people who will do what Trump tells them to

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              The government is an inherently political system, you can’t avoid that. The Founding Fathers tried to split the approval responsibility (for many offices) between two branches, to avoid these issues. They were counting on the voters and the integrity of the members to keep things within reason, and it was a reasonably successful system for a long time.

              The problem is that it relies on the good faith of the people managing it, and they Founding Fathers never anticipated that our country would be taken over be an international cabal of Sociopathic Oligarch pedophiles and traitors, who would exploit our nation’s honor system.

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              It wouldn’t be so bad if our government weren’t absolutely ratfucked by the two party FPTP system. There’s no incentive to not pick an extremist who aligns with your political ideology if your political party holds the majority of government offices.

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        Several. But yes. Breaking Diet and Zero coke dispensors at locations in DC and Palm beach would help too.

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    1/3 of US renters not paying their rent in a coördinated strike for one month would unwind a lot of landlord loans and collapse Wall Street which is where Trump stores his wealth.

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    Vote enough non-Republicans into Congress, impeach, and convict? Wait for whatever is turning his skin purple to take its course?

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        Yeah, and Dem voters are pissed as Hell about it. If we hand them the House and Senate in November, and Schmuck & Jeffries continue with their MAGA comedy act, then we’ll be forced to take matters into our own hands, and when that happens, any treasonous Democrats like them will go down right along with the MAGAs.

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      It’s been long established that a small percentage can lead to a “Tipping Point” and cause a trend that can grow and take over. People like Malcolm Gladwell and Mark Penn have written excellent books about the concept. This article is interesting because it is directly ties the idea to non-violent protests.

      People have been watching the No Kings protests, for exactly this reason. With a population of 335 million, 3.5% is about 12 million people, and the No Kings protests have been drawing around 8 million, and will probably draw more in the future. Add to that all the sympathetic protesters at home, and we have to be at that 3.5% goal, and probably beyond it.

      I’m one of those homebound protesters. I’m NEVER going to go to a protest, but that doesn’t mean I’m not as militant as they are. At my age, I’d be a liability at a protest, but I can work my keyboard, and spread sourced news and anti-MAGA propaganda in equal measure. Thats my DAILY contribution to the fight, and it’s just as important as showing up to monthly or quarterly protests.

      Add people like me to the No Kings protesters, and we are certainly beyond the 3.5% required to cause a tipping point, and it really feels like it is happening. They are losing nearly every court case, including tariffs, MAHA, and more. What little support there was for this war has fully collapsed. He has broken every campaign promise to people who LOVE to repeat “Promises Made, Promises Kept.” Today, EVERY SINGLE MAGA knows that’s not true at all.

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        I don’t even like the no kings protests but lol at adding you to the number cause you post so hard.

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    Vote in better Congresspeople who will vote to remove him from office. The problem is the people. Always has been.

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      People yes, but also the system is extremely fucked up and stacked against people. If you are unlucky to be born in bumfuck Alabama, you’ll grow up with your asshole priest telling you lies, your TV / Radio telling you lies, your patents telling you lies because they too were lied to and your school being underfunded and shitty.

      It’s a vicious cycle that we allowed to get to a point of no return and it is not easy for somone to get out of it.

      And this is by design, the elites used religion and propaganda to brainwash a huge swath of people.

      I honestly think even they are surprised how well they did, because they were afraid they went too far when Trump got into office the first time.

      They thought they had pushed their luck and now a fully open conman rapists was the leader of their party.

      But, the brainwashing was too strong and complete, the cult members are literally cheering him on as he’s killing people.

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        I get that and I could see that as an excuse maybe 10-15 years ago, but my thinking is that in the age of regular internet availability, nation-wide, there is less of an excuse to be ignorant and it’s more of a choice at this point about whether you are informed or not.

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          It is got you because you are not in their bubble. The tech oligarchy has fully isolated the cult of MAGA.

          Cults in the past had to be in a physical compound to keep the lie going, but today you have X, Facebook and FOX News which does not let any outside information in.

          And let’s be real, your racist grandpa doesn’t know about lemmy or how to make an account or how to spot news slop.

          Again, his highschool education barely thought him evolution, and critical thinking skills were not on the curriculum.

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    In November he’s going to try and steel the election, if we effective block that, his days are numbered, so get organized locally.

    Sorry lone wolves, you had your shot and and all your incoherent takes achieved was a poll boost for him.

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      Dude helmed one of the biggest child sex trafficking rings in history, whipped his loyalists into a coup attempt with false claims of “stolen election”, suffered no consequences for that, came back promising revenge, pardoned his convicted loyalists, turned them into a private army that has been given carte blanche to murder peaceful opposition, is operating death camps, has kidnapped and murdered the leaders of foreign countries with impunity, routinely ignores those in his own party and Supreme Court when they occasionally oppose him, is threatening all sorts of voter suppression (up to cancelling elections), defies the Constitution by calling for a third term, is backed by a cabal of the most wealthy and powerful individuals in the nation who are also clients of his child sex trafficking ring, is beloved by the nation’s police forces, has seized total control of the military, and has already ignored every check and balance that exists because he can. You can flip the entire Congress blue but unless they find someone who can physically extricate him and his cronies from their positions, he can ignore every impeachment, court order, and protest if he says “nah, I’m staying”. You really think his backers have worked this hard to gain control just to lose it in two years to the will of the people, the people they know would have a helluva time matching them blow for blow to force his removal?

      Don’t not vote, but don’t be so assured winning at the polls translates into the first step of over-throwing the regime. I mean, what are you going to do if voters say “time for you to go” and his response is “fuck you, make me”?

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        My point is that in November he will try shenanigans and people will need to take to the streets to enforce the results of the election.

        If he fails to steel the elections in November his days will be numbered.

        The outcome of the elections is less important than the willingness of people to defend them, when he sends in the FBI to steel uncounted ballotboxes in purple districts.

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          And my point is that regardless of whether he successfully steals them, suppresses them, intimidates voters, even if opposition wins big, without teeth to back up any action they take against him (like impeachment), he’s in a position of power that he needs to keep himself and all of his cronies out of prison. A win for the opposition, even if the opposition breaks with Democratic leadership and starts coming at him hard, is just delaying the inevitable fight to be rid of him and his regime. The opposition wants to obey the rule of law, and that’s a good standard, but we’re dealing with a person in power that ignores the balance of power, defies the courts, and has the support of law enforcement. He keeps calling our bluff and letting us play by the rules while he breaks or ignores every last one to the applause of his base. How many of his supporters did we see lusting for a Putin-style strongman that puts on the facade of elections and democracy but would never concede to the will of the people? They’ve found their dude and will fight just as hard to keep him in power at the expense of democracy as he will. People need to be willing to defend more than the right to vote, they need to be willing to take action when voting occurs but the results are ignored.

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        “I mean, what are you going to do if voters say “time for you to go” and his response is “fuck you, make me”?”

        We sic the National Guard on his ass, remove him via a competent military coup, and ensure the actually democratically elected candidate gets in office, while showing that new candidate what happens if they attempt to pull that same bullshit.