“Well, first of all, they’re completely wrong,” Huang said in response to a question from Tom’s Hardware editor-in-chief Paul Alcorn about the criticism.

“The reason for that is because, as I have explained very carefully, DLSS 5 fuses controllability of the of geometry and textures and everything about the game with generative AI,” Huang continued.

Just a elongated way to say AI slop.

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      True. I mean we can’t exactly expect the CEO of an AI company to admit his AI tool produces AI slop. Got to think about shareholder value after all.

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        Anyway outlaw the stock market and shareholders and this won’t happen again. It’s just a way for rich gambling addicts to bet and rope regular people into it in the hopes of getting rich only for them to lose everything.

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      It’s worse…

      People are saying it’s AI slop filter, and he won’t shut the fuck up that the slop isn’t a filter, it’s a main ingredient.

      When enabled it fundamentally changes how it works.

      Developers will be stuck with the default version we’ve seen, or have to devote a shit ton of money to do twice the work for the people who use this, and they won’t see the other version.

      Like, this shit is going to get worse and worse the more people understand it.

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    “completely wrong” and proceeds to say it’s just a “fusion”.

    It IS an AI slop filter, and you can take it and shove it up your ass alongside all of your stupid jackets.

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    I’m increasingly happy my hardware is a generation behind and incompatible with this shit.

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      Same, I have a 3090 that’s a secondary card in my system used only for video rendering because of how well it processes with NVENC. All my gaming GPUs are AMD now.

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      Only one? I got a newish computer, but I use my old ibm Thinkpad with an i5 and igpu, plus my steam deck, way more than that thing for gaming. The Thinkpad is mainly for nostalgia and a forever, but oddly non nuclear, war in civ V.

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      To be fair who has two 5090s laying around to use this crap? This isn‘t so much a „generation behind“ thing and more of a „overpriced luxury toy for the top .01%“. There is no market for this. It‘s all smoke and mirrors.

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    Looking forward to the day I boot up a new game and all the characters look like this because I don’t have DLSS 9 enabled

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      On the bright side there are more games than anybody can play in a lifetime that already exist. Sucks ass for my favourite hobby and lifelong companion from before my memory begins, but hey.

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      I don’t like this movie.

      You are wrong and must like this movie because I like it!

      Fuck. Off.

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          That’s because everyone remembers that particular saying incorrectly, similarly to “a few bad apples,” or “the blood is thicker than water.” Everything and every saying is being twisted to mean exactly opposite what it should be to protect the pedophile capitalists that own everything.

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          No. They force us to like their slop to keep their mouths full of shareholder-dicks to get more of that thick and juicy shareholder sap.

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      Gamers are not the primary market for GPU anymore. Its AI sadly. So they get away with shit like that…

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      That’s been the line they have pushed for at least three decades now. It didn’t seem to be hurting them until rather recently, when it started affecting the larger software world.

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      And they’ll keep being wrong. But that’s ok, flat earthers still exist too.

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    I’ve heard a number of creators try talking about how this is a good thing actually and it is just misunderstood… And I’ve got to say: after it’s come out that nvidia has threatened creators in the past… I really think it starts getting obvious who’s still kissing the ring. This is some emperors new clothes shit.

    If nvidia can’t just make a better card anymore cool. No worries. Want to get into bed with the industrial military complex? Great. Message recieved. Want to overwrite an artists design with filters? Stay the fuck in your lane. You design chips that draw what they are told. If you can’t do that right anymore then get out of our industry and make room for someone who can.

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        If Starfield didn’t murder everyone’s hope for their future titles I don’t know what will…

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          You think the Fallout 4 remaster would have done it as well.

          I’m thinking we get AI-slopped remastered New Vegas and/or Fallout 3 next.

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        His boss is a former AI slop queen bitch at MS. Before that she headed Product engineering of facebookchat and insta DM as a VP. I don’t think I need to tell anyone how much more of a hellscape those became under her tenure.

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    Never bought anything from NVIDIA after the 1080ti and I feel real good about that.

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      Never bought anything from them after the 500 series lol. The last one that didn’t give me any problems was a 1060 when I set it up for a friend, everything after that always had some nasty gremlins

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        I still occasionally use an old sli’d dual 260 gtx setup I inherited. It’s hooked up to my “theatre room” (not rich, just have a multi purpose room with a projector and couch.).

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    It’s one thing to defend AI slop; but my god, why does his answer sound like AI slop?

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      CEOs have all sounded the same for years now. Add in LLM talking points regularly and they all sound like robots with a broken speech unit

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      These people are likely conversing with AI daily… If you talk to AI a lot… It’ll rub off on you. At least that’s my guess from a neuroscience perspective. It’s like the hive mind effect, basically.

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      AI just regurgitates what it’s trained on.

      Where do you think it comes from? Who do you think is the ceo grand captain of that shitship?

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        That’s Sami-correct… They don’t really regurgitate as much as they hallucinate/bullshit. Which… Verbatim regurgitation would probably be preferable. Like, how many answers (however wrong or right) do you need? I would love an AI that didn’t bullshit and would just give a simple correct (or even consistently wrong) answer and isn’t going to change that based on how you ‘prompt engineer’ it. But that’s probably asking too much.

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    Surely this is just a marketing stunt they pulled in the hopes of temporarily pumping share prices or something? Despite their claims that it can be optimized before release, I think there is basically no way they get it running at playable frame rates without a second dedicated graphics card on current gen hardware. They’re going to release it with terrible performance, promise to improve it, a few people who have dual 5090 setups will try it but almost everyone will ignore it, and the promised optimizations will either never materialize or they’ll be much less impactful than promised.

    “The reason for that is because, as I have explained very carefully, DLSS 5 fuses controllability of the of geometry and textures and everything about the game with generative AI,” Huang continued.

    He seems to be thinking of it as basically a post-processing effect, but it’s certainly the least performant one ever devised. Even if it’s true that the art teams can tweak it to get exactly the effect they want, I find it hard to believe they’d ever be able to get it running on the hardware they’re targeting, so it will just be an expensive novelty for games that want to promise the most bells and whistles.

    Edit: Wait I just saw this,

    “It’s not post-processing, it’s not post-processing at the frame level, it’s generative control at the geometry level,” he said.

    What is he on about? Surely it’s not really mucking around with stuff earlier in the rendering pipeline? That would make it completely different from all previous versions of DLSS, why would they call it DLSS 5? I don’t think he understands how it works at all.

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      no way they get it running at playable frame rates without a second dedicated graphics card on current gen hardware.

      Their marketers are salivating at the thought.

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      Bro just invented a worse ENB that needs a second 3k GPU to run and is surprised to be called out for how shitty his invention is…

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    Calling it now: Jensen Huang’s mind has been emptied and replaced with AI chips. That’s why he just spouts AI generated nonsense.

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    ROFL This means we are in fact correct in our assumptions and Jensen Huang is seething, trying to make AI Slop Lookscursing fetch. It will never be fetch Jensen…Sorry sweetie!