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Education has no bearing on intellect. Or appropriate life experience.
Also, when people say someone is stupid, crazy, etc, it’s because they don’t understand that person’s perspective.
Yep. Education isn’t inclusive of neurodiversity, non white western ethnic groups, or just different types of intelligence. Academic isn’t intelligence
i’m a mechanical engineer. i know something about electricity and physics. i also have a degree in international trade.
until 2 yrs ago i didn’t know how eggs get fertilized and yesterday my wife had to show me how to remove olive pits while preparing ouur cooking.
by all accounts i’m a dumbass with 2 degrees in specific fields that i don’t encounter in day-to-day life. i have no idea how to survive in this world. i am sure others feel the same.
Marcin Jakubowski talks about this in his TED talk; theoretical physicist realizes he cannot DO anything, becomes farmer, founds open source ecology.
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Marcin Jakubowski talks about this in his TED talk; theoretical physicist realizes he cannot DO anything, becomes farmer, founds open source ecology.
Intelligence and Wisdom are two separate stats.
My mom worked as a university professor, then advisor, and what she said about college was “it just shows a prospective employer that you can follow rules and commit to doing something for a few years and follow through on it. That’s why they want the degree. Also cuts down on applicants, fewer to sort through.”
So, from someone on the inside, she didn’t think the main reason was education, in terms of specific jobs. I know in accounting I don’t use so much of what I learned and that’s a pretty specific degree. Anyone with a mind for numbers & systems could be trained on the job to do what I do.
I’ve used the advanced systems analysis math I learned in university as an actual calculation in my job precisely zero times.
I roughly think about how those models apply to situations and how that will effect the various likely outcomes and behaviours etc on a literal daily basis.
University isnt just about training you to do a job.
College degrees mean you can read and write with a purpose. It doesn’t mean you can think. There’s a reasons you don’t see a ton of conservatives in research science.
I taught college for a few years.
Only about 10-20% of my students showed any evidence of engagement or understanding with the material.
The other 60% were just parroting everything, but that’s good enough to get B/C and pass the class and that’s all they care about.
And about 20% were total idiots who didn’t belong in a college classroom, but the school won’t fail them even when they cheat because money. 10% of my students cheated and I reported them and only about 3% of those that cheat get punished for it, the others get passed with a low grade.
These ratios hold pretty true with regards to competency in the workplace, too.
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education doesn’t fix stupidity Education can however help with ignorance.
I know someone who earns six figures who can’t spell, doesn’t know that he’s Caucasian, doesn’t know the difference between Chinese and Japanese people, thinks it’s a fine idea to sit in a swimming pool during a lightning storm, and once wrote a $1000 check to himself, thinking the bank would honor it and he’d suddenly have an extra $1000 in the bank.
Depends on what you mean by that.
Stupid as in not grasping some concepts quickly?
Education is just a narrow overview of a particular field. Once you’re out the narrow scope of what you’re taught - it’s all about your general knowledge. I know a world-class physicist who does not comprehend basic things about society, economy, relationships etc. And, working in a scientific field, I see plenty of such examples.
Stupid as in unable to aggregate data and synthesize understanding?
The state of modern tech and media more broadly eats heavily into people’s attention span. People have harder time concentrating, and it gets so much worse when they need to aggregate all the sources they have. They just don’t have enough short-term memory to keep it all together.
Stupid as in making weird life decisions?
Everyone’s life experience is drastically different than yours, and, seeing only the surface, people often downplay what others went through and how it shaped their thinking. Sometimes it introduces genuine logical errors into the behavior, and sometimes it just comes from a much different perspective than you can imagine. In their world, the decisions they make makes sense. In your world, you also normally make sense for yourself, even if you’re actually irrational in one thing or another. This does, by the way, include all the typical political rants - high-ranking politicians and their numerous advisors are unlikely to all be stupid. More likely, these people pursue different interests from what you imagine.
Overall, the word “stupid” is heavily overused and applied to a lot of different things. So, it always makes sense to clarify, or else it looks more like a rant rather than a genuine question.
Complaining about people being stupid is as old as the world itself, yet it’s not very productive or done in good faith. Before claiming anyone stupid, try to ask them for their perspective and the way they look at a problem. And if you’re able, unpack what you think is wrong.
And also: **Stupid as in willful ignorance? **
I don’t think they’re acting.
When you say, “fucking stupid” is “stupidity” actually the problem? Like what, they can’t do math?
Raw brainpower is only a fraction of what’s involved in good judgement. Book knowledge is another fraction. But there’s a whole host of other factors that can influence decisions. Poor impulse control, psychological hangups, bad habits, greed, privilege, etc. That’s assuming that the education they received actually taught them how to think critically in the first place.
The vast majority of the time, when I have a problem with someone, it’s not just a matter of lacking brainpower or education. Condensing those problems down to “stupid” is, aside from any other concerns, simply inaccurate.
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also different standards.
one person’s clean is another’s dirty. etc.
Some people are really good at studying and terrible and doing anything else, specially thinking.
They are the perfect drones, they are smart enough to work the machines and produce for their boss, but dumb enough to ask why.
I’m continually amazed at how fucking idiots have jobs, buy houses and cars and stuff.
most of them inherited their money.
most stupid people I meet who have all that stuff, it’s because most of it was inherited from mom and dad, or mom and dad had the connections to get them a 100K+ job straight out of college at a friends’ company.
And they think anyone who doesn’t have all stuff that is expensive as their stuff is stupid, because if they were smart, why wouldn’t they be richer than them?
can’t be smart at everything 🤷♂️
Education in one field doesn’t mean so in all. I still do some things that may be considered stupid, it’s just habitual at this point.
It’s worth noting that college degrees are often not hard to get, assuming you have ample finances. Colleges are businesses, and they care more about cashflow than education.
I have a bachelor of science in electrical engineering. Of my graduating class, probably only about a quarter of us actually understood anything. And now working in the industry, it seems like that’s a pretty reasonable average for other institutions in my field (there are exceptions, a few colleges have higher standards).
I mean, to be fair, electrical engineering is one of the most notoriously difficult to grasp disciplines.
People don’t generally have a great intuitive sense for how pulsed electromagnet waves propagate through 3d space and time.
There are some aspects of the discipline that are hard to grasp–in my experience, it was differential equations and advanced control systems. But those are a pretty small part of the curriculum. The number of people who graduated without demonstrating even basic understanding of rudimentary concepts is alarming, but it explains a large amount of the shitty engineering that exists in the world.
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Depends on the place, I guess. In the US and Canada, it’s pretty common. I’ve attended four different institutions and taught at one, and they’ve all been pretty money-focused.
Intelligence and wisdom are separate things.
E.g. you are intelligent enough to know smoking is bad for you, but lack the wisdom to stop smoking.
Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit, and wisdom is knowing to not put it in a fruit salad.
