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    1 hour ago

    Some of us pay ourselves to install an ad blocker and then we keep our money and we don’t get any ads.

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    Add to this that companies would prefer showing their ads to paying customers (who have some money to spend), not the free tier plebs

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    4 hours ago

    You all deserve this and worse. No reason to complain about it. This is what everybody wanted.

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    I’ve said this a few times in various places, but I’m really surprised we aren’t allowed to bid for ad space for ourselves to not show an ad the way advertisers do for ads. Obviously a flat monthly rate is simpler, nobody is denying that, but just from a purely “free market” perspective (which shareholders love to say they want while using the government to crush opposition) why can’t I pay slightly more than whatever small amount of money someone is paying to show me an ad to not see the ad?

    Realistically I don’t think we’ll ever see that because it’s a fairly complicated. I don’t have any hard data, but I can’t imagine that the majority of users using something like YouTube Premium are getting a “good deal.” Sure, some folks probably watch all day every day and they get the better end of the deal, but I’d bet for a lot of folks YouTube makes more money off charging the subscription than they would showing the ads. Which is sort of an odd scenario we’ve gotten ourselves into (but amazing if you’re a company that serves ads).

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      Its a good idea but mentally people hate micro-transactions(transactions that are lower than 10cents) so they get mad every time its suggested. Plus its technically quite challenging to process those kind of transactions efficiently.

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        You wouldn’t prompt them every time. And it would be no more difficult than serving the ads which are also charging every time they’re shown.

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          No I wouldnt prompt them at all because the costs would be so low. Even if you paid 5x what an ad pays you’d spend less than a dollar or two a week. But people hate the idea of paying half a cent when visiting a website or watching a youtube video because they think they either shouldnt have to or that it will eventually become $2 to vist that blog and $4 to watch that video and thats a horrible future.

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        Not necessarily, like if it was YouTube you’d just deposit money and maybe set a maximum amount of money you’re willing to bid. Honestly most standard banner ads are from Google too, so they could handle that. For streaming services you’d need to set it up for each individually, but that’s no different from setting up billing for each of them. They wouldn’t need to talk to each other.

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    Friend one day added me to his family plan because they had one space open. I’m still in the habit of always going to youtube in ways I can ad-block but am always pleasantly surprised when I go in the normal youtube app and I have no ads. I’ll pay for the service though

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    Its much better to pay YouTube so the YouTubers get money based on what the audience wants, and not what the Advertisers want from Youtube.

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        Nebula sounds great until you use it… At least on Android, it buffers randomly for no reason, doesn’t fallback onto audio-only if your screen is off, crashes, etc… it’s just not very nice to use

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    “Perpetrators offer a service that will not be put into effect, or offer a service that solves a problem that would not exist without the racket.”

    The very definition of racketeering.

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        Pihole does not stop youtube ads as they are served through youtube’s domains. You need ublock or something like that.

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          Forreal I use pihole and I get ads. Is bro on something we don’t know about? Why say anything about pihole if you literally have never used it lol

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          Having everything connected to the router automatically get ad blocking is great.

          I do wish the pihole was easier to use. I don’t think my parents would be up for manually updating it via SSH in a console.

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            You can access the web client from any connected machine and do it from there.

            Also you can save the IP from the machine running it as a local DNS entry, something like pi.hole, so they can just type pi.hole/admin in the browser to access the dashboard

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        Stupid question, but does pihole offer any substantial benefit over using a remote ad-blocking DNS like AdGuard or whatever?

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          Please ignore the other two commenters…

          Adblockers block ads at the user level, meaning you have to manage the adblocker for each device in your ecosystem.

          PiHole and similar DNS based ad blocking technologies OTOH block ads at the network level and only needs one install location to manage content for all devices you have on your network.

          This means with PiHole you can have one set of custom rules that block all ads at the network level by using a set of pre-loaded and customizeable DNS blocklists. OR! you can install Ublock on 2 devices in your house and let the other 7 devices that have no access to adblockers (like IoT devices) be subject to the atrocity that is modern advertising.

          Additionally, adblockers in browsers can eventually be shut off. See: Google Chrome and Ublock Origin.

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            But what does a pihole (which is DNS blocking) do that AdGuard’s free public DNS (which is DNS blocking) doesn’t? Of course uBlock Origin alongside them is better, but what’s a pihole specifically doing?

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              I was pretty specific as to what advantages PiHole has over Ublock alone.

              Please re-read the above comment and lmk if I can clarify anything.

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          It’s a good way to dip your toes into learning about Linux, self-hosting, and administering reliable services.

          Functionally they are the same though.

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      I do. YouTube premium is cheap, i can add 5 other other people to my plan and they all the benefits, i get ad free music in my car (i cancelled XMradio because YouTube is better) and all my devices like my phone, car, smart tv, computer get ad free shows.

      It’s a way better service than netflix because Netflix didn’t let be add people outside my house. And it’s way better than Amazon prime, because that chat extra flfor ad free but you still get ads!

      I’ll support any company that gives me a cheap ad free plan that i can share with the family outside my house with no issues.

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        Yeah, not having ads in the phone app, the TV app, the music app on the phone or in the browser is really nice, I love it. Also got that for all my friends and family.

        Never paid YouTube a dime though :)

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          how can I do it on the tv app? I have a Google tv and and a mibox and I absolutely hate watching youtube on those bc the fucking ads are over a minute long sometimes.

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            There’s an app for Google/Android tv called smart tube next. It’s pretty easy to install and works wonders. It’s made me use YouTube in my tv a lot more since I installed it.

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        Exactly. I will pay for things that I want. If you do not sell them to me I will get them some other way or satisfy myself with other things.