A study conducted in Germany found that men with higher IQs are less inclined to traditional values, but the lead author, psychologist and intelligence researcher Maximilian Krolo of Saarland University, said the researchers did not find these differences among women.
“The current study showed that high intelligence does not, as one might assume, lead to radical political positions. Instead, highly gifted adults are on average just as politically diverse and moderate as the rest of the population.”
Well that headline is…misleading.
Imagining a world where the headlines aren’t click bait and the articles are well researched. One day…
You’d need media that wasn’t predicated on advertising revenues.
“Solid ice colder than liquid water, study finds.”
Proof that academia cultures the left, neglecting real science like the fact that you can pressurize water into ice while preserving its warmth!
~ a conservative somewhere
“My social media isn’t an echo chamber”
As a high IQ person I would like to remind everyone that IQ has been coopted by a scientific racism and eugenics agenda, and the originator, a French man by the name of Alfred Binet,
“stressed that intellectual development progressed at variable rates and could be influenced by the environment; therefore, intelligence was not based solely on genetics, was malleable rather than fixed, and could only be found in children with comparable backgrounds.”
We can only assume that any correlation in beliefs and scoring is the product of an environment which tends to produce both or inhibits the production of both. IE Fox News makes you dumb, and Fox News makes you conservative, concurrently. The study does not mention TV.
I wonder if there’s a similar study that uses executive capacity (multitasking etc.) as a more objective measure of intelligence. When I was in school, this was the most supported way to objectively measure intelligence (but of course, is that actually intelligence? Intelligence is just a word we have. Having the word doesn’t mean that the concept exists.)
Maybe, but I think that’s still going to be a function of environment vs innate. There’s not really an objective measure when existence is subjective, and an individual’s capacity for effort is very dependent on their resources that they can consume. All sorts of effort, not just intellectual.
A fact so obvious and apparent only a German would even bother asking.
I am pretty sure that I would flunk IQ tests, and I have leftist preferences. Mathematics and other subjects of high learning are not something I really understand. While I appreciate neat things like electricity, chemistry, design, and AI, I simply don’t understand them to any meaningful extent.
That sucks. I would like to have a character sheet with +10 bonuses across the board, and a platinum piece to start my game with. Same goes for the rest of the neighborhood.
There’s no flunking an IQ test, but you are probably a normal median person.
The fact they don’t think they’re a genius and know their limits suggests they’re probably smarter than average. I’ve found the dumbest people have an unshakable confidence they’re always correct.
IQ is bullshit.
In my opinion IQ measures only a narrow field of the brains capabilities. Namely logical thinking.
Duh.
I think being knowledgeable leads someone to be more liberal than they otherwise would have been. Less inclined to fear the outgroup and fear change. This is why a college degree is so associated with liberalism. I don’t know how well that corresponds to IQ, which itself is kind of wishy washy.
being knowledgeable
IQ has nothing to do with being knowledgeable. Shit headlines like this play into the exact same eugenics theory of humanity that gooners like RFK Jr and Peter Thiel have been pushing.
I don’t know how well that corresponds to IQ
It’s quite literally just a measurement of one’s pattern recognition speed. Has nothing to do with your politics.
Case in point, Christopher Langan, who regularly outperformed on these cognition tests, was a total nerd on trivia, and ended up becoming a forest ranger because he had a perpetual chip on his shoulder. Once his reputation blew up as someone who could ace cognitive tests, he leveraged that into becoming a right-wing grifter.
The guy is a total piece of shit who tests well. Go out to any of the Ivy League universities and you’ll find this kind of person in spades. Silicon Valley, the DC Beltway, Wall Street, Raytheon Acres, the Florida Real Estate scene - very intelligent assholes are a dime a dozen. FFS, we built our rocket labs on Nazi scientists. No shortage of right-wingers in the “High IQ” space.
Yeah, being knowledgeable is quantifiable. IQ is wishy washy and easily misused
click-bait
Um ackshually It’s ‘rage bait’, specifically for conservatives.
Click bait entices anyone to click through omitted information. Rage bait seeks a click through an emotional reaction from a specific demographic.
Clickbait:
“Local Restaurant Owner Tried One Menu Change and Sales Doubled Overnight”
“A Mom Working 3 Jobs Lost 60 lbs By Cutting This One Ingredient From Her Diet”
Ragebait:
“Study Finds Conservativel Men Have Smaller Penises Than Liberal Men.”
“New Data Shows Remote Workers May Be Less Valuable Than In-Office Staff”
Not all ragebait is clickbait. Ragebait is targeted. Know your enemy.
It’s also just reporting the findings of a study, which also tracks.
Breaking News: Conservatives tend to be dumber; more at 11!
This isn’t enough info right? Wouldn’t we need to know the baseline before they state women dont shift to the left at a higher IQ?
Like if when are 80% progressive already, a high IQ might make them 85% progressive
But if men are 30% progressive an a high IQ makes them 70% progressive.
What?? Sorry, the penises are blocking my view. Just too many penises. I hope its not an article trying to say something about how smart people who don’t have a sea of penises before them are. Yeah, just way too many penises. Some would say “totally not conservative”.
from a logical standpoint, conservatism is lacking any kind of sense or logic. I think it’s safe to assume that, in order to follow blindly an idea that crumbles as soon as you critically think about it, you have to lack the ability to critically think.
What I think tho is that it’s empathy what we should link to intelligence (or whatever you want to call the skill set that allows you to question and critizice everything).
Conservatism is a lack of empathy (which comes with a lack of said “intelligence”).
it would be easy to fake. its not hard know how to be a good person in theyre given socity, manipulator do it all the time. also are you going to define morality for all of humanity for this test? yah good luck with that lol.
There are very few actual republicans or conservatives now. What you are describing is not historical conservatism either socially or fiscally.
I also believe this, and want to add that conservatism is mostly a combination of ideals based on grievances and a complete lack of critical thinking thinking as well.
I know plenty of intelligent conservatives, but all them lack empathy for anyone outside their circle.
From where? No university I’ve worked at has a significant amount of conservative thought.
I don’t think they are intelligent if they are conservative. Conservatism is objectively bad for the collective. Supporting it means, ultimately, hurting the planet even to the point of making it uninhabitable. And if you think that you, with all the money in the world, can survive in a world like that, then you are not very intelligent.
They are selfish, and they might have some skills. But I don’t think they can be called intelligent when they lack the critical thinking skills to question the most basic concepts of conservatism.
There is literally always room for improvement, everyone knows this, everyone is taught this. Conservatism flies in it’s face. Conservatism says “good enough”. Conservatism says “I’m fine, thanks” without asking how you are.
Actual conservatism is just as “logical” as libralism / leftism, or whatever you want to call the other side. Old fashioned conservatism is just the idea that traditional ways of doing things are good, so we should be slow in adopting changes.
Modern American conservatism isn’t conservatism. It’s an incoherent philosophy that resists some changes while making a lot of other very radical changes. There’s no plan behind it. Even their “gameplan”, project 2025, is a mess of contradictory ideas. The execution depends on the whims of an idiotic, incurious, and possibly altzheimer-addled man.
Duh
Aaah a feel-good article for leftists.
Plenty of dumb dumbs among us, don’t worry.
Don’t worry. Let a non dumb dumb explain.
There are many causality relationship kinds.
- Leftist -> big IQ: being leftist makes someone have big IQ
- Leftist <- big IQ: having big IQ makes someone a leftist.
- Leftist <-> big IQ: both 1 and 2. That is, saying “I am a leftist” and saying “I have big IQ” is the same, since one causes the other.
- Third parameter -> leftist AND third parameter -> big IQ: there is something that causes both being leftist and having big IQ.
In case 1, all leftists have big IQ. But NOT all big IQ ppl are leftist.
In case 2, all big IQ ppl are leftist. But NOT all leftists have big IQ.
In case 3, all big IQ ppl are leftist, and all leftists have big IQ.
In case 4, some NOT all leftist have big IQ. And NOT all big IQ ppl are leftist. But some are.
Assuming having big IQ is desirable, leftists would want either case 1 or 3. Since that would mean they have a big IQ.
However, the headline seems to suggest case 2. And in reality. And it could still be case 4.
Of course, in reality there is an uncountable number of parameters, not just 3, so don’t take the “all” in my comment as literally “all”. Reality probably resembles more case 4.
If this were a feel-good article for leftists, the headline would suggest case 1 or 3. Since that is what leftists want.
Even assuming the best case scenario of case 2 where all big IQ people are leftists. If you define big IQ as “top 10%” and low IQ as “not big IQ”: it is technically possible for 90% of leftists to be low IQ. And if low IQ is 50-50 leftist-conservative, 78% of leftists would be low IQ.
what about big PP tho?
Could be the third parameter that causes both leftism and big IQ.
Someone would need to do the study on that to be sure though.
There’s a reason universities lean heavily left
I would disagree on the “heavily” unless you accept the US definition of the right-left paradigm.
Also ignore if you mean heavy in population ratio not how far the needle goes.
What university did you go to?
A canadien one.
Highly depends on what university you go to and whether or not you participate in the Greek culture.
whether or not you participate in the Greek culture.
yogurt?
We’re talking about Universities here, not the hundreds of bullshit liberal arts colleges that are just sleep camps for the Learning Annex.
It really doesnt.
Can you elaborate on that?
Do you mean like “greek” college cults, like the alpha beta omega stuff? Or like Greek from the actual country, Greece?
Use your brain. Obviously it’s the Greek clubs. Everyone who replied to my comment doesn’t understand American Greek fraternities/sororities and the terrible culture surrounding them.
I saw that and was leading the conclusion for people. You’re welcome.
Edit: but also, what IF greece somehow had a culture that led to this
Sure, but perhaps take solace that we’re less deliberately hateful and that stupidity isn’t celebrated as it is among the arch conservatives?
Present! I don’t even remember my times tables
I think that political allegiance is often much more about emotions and sociological relations than intellect. Class thinking is more prevalent than we assume nowadays
Aaah a feel-good article for leftists.
Eh. I don’t feel particularly good that I’m surrounded by conservative idiots.
