Should be the parents’ responsibility to protect their kids, not the tech companies. Also, age verification has nothing to do with “protecting the children” lol.
no shit
Linux says fuck your age verification.
That’s why they’re fuckin doing it.
I hate short replies that don’t add much (so added more than agreed!) but I’ve always enjoyed being anonymous in forums, I’m quite a shy person.
Never was a jerk intentionally or anything just said my bit. But everyone possibly knowing who I was I’d probably say nothing ever. Fuck it I was private before I can be private later. But I’m old and recall before Internet when I had no (or little) interaction.
Like we all haven’t seen data breeches over the years…oh it’s the government that holds the master authentication? Fuck that shit is all. Nothing, from a person who does programming these days, like that is remotely better.
Some countries may be better but we’re all democratic right? Takes a single election till shit stops working as a safeguard, then new ones in make a different law. The whole system was not built for current tech.
Never forget who is behind this https://youtu.be/Yd7j_u-wPoM
Israelis lobbying agitating for the end of American first amendment rights, what a shocker.
We need to find that guy and… have a little chat with him.There’s a bit of American history involving incredibly affordable concrete footwear that seems relevant here.
Maybe that asshole shouldn’t have been supporting the fascists then…?
Meta is pushing this so Zuck doesnt get sued for addicting kids. He can point his finger and say its the parents fault for kids seeing bad or addicting content. We are losing our rights and our privacy because a shithead like zuck doesnt want to get rightfully sued.
Amen. Been saying this a while. He knew this shit was coming so he’s was prepared with this Ace up his sleeve.
Step 1: get people addicted, monetize it to no end
Step 2: cover it up and lie about it being fine, spread misinformation of you have to
Step 3: plan a scapegoat tactic as a backup just in case. Maybe 2.
Step 4: buy out politicians who’ll support you when it’s time to take action; like “age verification” as a redirect (as if the gov has ever fine anything promptly!)
Step 5: Get the media to sort of drop coverage to get people to forget about it with other stuff, and watch the lawsuits and trials fade away into the background as there’s no more media coverage for it.
I am old enough to remember when the internet was run by hobbyists and enthusiasts, companies were happy to pay “to be online” it wasn’t riddled with ads and profits wasn’t the default reason to create content.
Thems were heady days
You’re kidding yourself if you think companies being online was ever about anything other than potential profit. At first it was just a way to reach a wider pool of customers. Like the yellow pages before. Then, once every company had an online presence, they started looking for new ways to monetize the connectivity.
Their statement is compatible with a profit incentive. Companies were happy to pay to be online because it was good marketing.
It’s just pining for the time before they figured out how to target marketing and sell data
They want this to keep track of your children, so they can traffick them more easily. Epstein class at it again.
What is being pushed for implementation is better described as identity verification, not age verification.
I would have little issue with a solution that purely gated services on age in a secure and privacy respecting manner. This OS level garbage is not that, its creating an oligarchy run identity gate to control access to personal computing.
Thank you. Now I just wish somebody at the government level would understand this and the implications of what this entails. Like maybe mention that all their weird online fetishes could be tracked back to them. It’s like this one company doing the “verification “ would be rolling in kompromat.
it’s all by design. they don’t want the general public to put it together that these are identify tracking surveillance system, just a carefree age verification to keep kids away from the baddies 🙄
It’s never about the kids
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Agreed. The model is a good start, the security of it’s implementation woefully inadequate… And I agree this MUST use post quantum cryptography.
Dox-gating (yes I just made that up lol) operating systems will result in people not updating security patches.
I like that word. I may use it later.
That’s the plan. It’s about control.
I’m glad someone else sees it. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills every day lately. People don’t give a single shit, will minimize the danger and do anything they can to give up their rights, time and time again.
A few of us see it, sadly too few to matter.
People in the privacy communities have known this for a while.
But because it’s slightly technical at minimum, and nuanced, and about something not immediately tied directly to people’s financial interest, the average person will never ever know, understand, or care about this.
Whats wrong with you?! Why aren’t you thinking of the children??!
already been accused/harassed on here of being pro-pedo for not being pro age-verification.
it’s always the yahoo idiot opinions that gain political traction, and rarely the common sense ones.
already been accused/harassed on here of being pro-pedo for not being pro age-verification.
it sounds like you should switch instances to one where this opinion (fact) is shared by most.
that’s not how it works. most of my harassment comes from .ml and far left instances. .ml users are especially aggressive and ignorant and eager to call you names. basically pro-authoritarian leftists.
i’m on .world. it’s the most moderate instance in my experience. db0 and blahj are also instances from which i get a lot of harassment.
sadly lemmy doesn’t let you block instances, only users or communities. so my user block list is like 500+ now.
Are you kidding? Instance blocking is almost necessary for surviving on Lemmy. Use a different client. Jesus bro, ya gotta block.
lemmy is a client. piefed is the only one i know that lets you block all users from an instance.
why lie about a group that is strongly anti-age-verification attacking you for being anti-age-verification and off endorsements from another group that is strongly pro-age-verification supporting you for your anti-age-verification opinions?
lemmy.ml isn’t a unified group. it’s individual people who think all sorts of crazy shit, that is often downright contradictory.
the only stance your instance takes is being pro marixist leninist. that has nothing to do with age-verification. if anything it’s pro-authoritarian bent would most likely have it align with mechanisms mass state control of individuals .
For once Yen and I see eye to eye.
given it’s just because it will hurt his business, but i’m still happy for some W
We straight up don’t have better solutions to fight LLMs, botnets and weaponized misinformation on an open anonymous internet.
As a society, our laws, rules, and regulations, have all been worn down to the point were at now. We could have had nice things. If everyone got a decent education, we may have been able to weather the AI storm, but we that just didn’t happen. Everyone in modern society is neck deep in technology. From entertainment to social interactions to news to audio blips to doomscroll - it is prime for propaganda and misinformation, and has been for some time now. There has to be an answer for that. Short-term and long-term with how fast technology has been moving in the past 200 years.
What are the alternatives?
I don’t know - maybe it doesn’t matter if we Hadron Collider ourselves into a blackhole.
Bullshit. Rather than a trust by default model, we switch to a distrust by default model. Done. But that’s not something compatible with ads so we are fucked.
This is an easy fix. We just make our own internet. With the usual, blackjack and hookers.
But does it have blackjack and hookers?
The good times are gone, fascism is back.
The US has always been an electoral oligarchy. It paints itself as a democratic republic to claim that it has consent of the people it governs, but the governed are given no real choices. Would you like to take a right hook or a left hook? Sorry, not getting hit wasn’t an option.
We need to start demanding our cities and states use a ranked sortition approach. Put a lottery option on a ranked voting ballot and make politicians beat the lottery if they want to claim they’re a legitimate ruling class.
But it’s in a new wrapper. Now it says “Good for humanity” on the label, still the same shit tho…
They’ve always done it “for the children”. Same wrapper.
I’ll stop interacting online outside of a professional context. So this obviously sucks from an online perspective. It’s will dampen online organization. But hopefully it increases community level interactions IRL. It’ll probably be good for day-to-day mental health.
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