Do you see this little pedal under your right foot? Just fucking use it and nobody will be honking.
Honk at immediate green warrants a very slooooooow take off. Bonus points if they spin out into a utility pole to get around you.
Ever seen a Japanese sports car go from 0 to 6 in 15 seconds? Honk at me when I’m on the line and the light just turned green and I’ll show you
If you truly want to be petty, sit until it’s a late yellow before you go. They’ll be stuck at the red. I wouldn’t do it if there’s anyone stuck behind the honker, but if it’s just the two of you then it’s an easy way to be very petty. It’ll piss some people off so badly that they’ll be liable to run the red.
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If this has happened to you more than once you are the problem.
The light is green. Why are you not moving?
I live in an area where I think the worst drivers in the US live. I absolutely hate people who honk as soon as the light turns green. You don’t know what I can see, you don’t know if it is safe to go. Because sometimes it isn’t. I’ve had to learn to still look both ways after the light turns green because almost once a week (and I only drive 2-4 days most weeks) I see someone completely blow the red going 60 in a 45.
I also blame phones for traffic, because it goes the other way too. Why did you miss that green, because 3 people in front of you were on their phones. I usually give a slow 5 count before giving a beep.
Nanosecond is a period between traffic light going green and somebody from behind honks.
This is (or was) a trending meme thing. I would just assume the person honking at me the splitsecond the light changes is just trying to get some SM clout.
Put on the handbrake, get out of the car, and calmly ask them what the problem is.
Or just drive off. If you rise to every barb, you’re almost definitely going to end up with a severely painful, chronic erection. Getting shot or run over is also on the table.
You forgot the ‘grab a crowbar’ part.
The last time I had to do this I pulled a rapier, actually. Although in my defense, the guy behind me jumped out with a tire iron first. It was purest happenstance that I had the thing in my back seat at the time but damned if the look on his face wasn’t worth it.
I’ve recounted this tale before. I have to wonder how that guy tells people his side of that story…
If you get out of your car to confront everyone who honks at you, you’re eventually going to meet an even bigger asshole with a gun.
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Depending on where you are in the US, this could literally get you shot.
I’m not in the US
Today one idiot honked me because I actually stopped at a red semaphore.
Have you stopped on the rail tracks by any chance?
No, but he should have.
train driver?
i will never understand why us traffic lights go immediately from red to green. you have a whole-ass third light to use for signaling that the light is about to change, so people don’t have to floor it due to an unexpected change.
That’s because practically nobody here drives a car with a manual transmission, and the reason for those in Europe is (or originally was) to give drivers notice when they need to get back into gear.
A knock-on consequence of this is that nobody in the US knows how to drive, they just point the wheel vaguely in some direction and mash the skinny pedal. If they don’t get the result they wanted, they stomp on the pedal harder. You ought to watch chucklefucks try to drive in the snow, especially those with SUVs and muscle cars with rear wheel drive. People treat the throttle as if it’s the “make the car go in the direction I’m looking button” and the rest of us know that’s not how it works.
surely traffic lights pre-date automatics?
they used to have this. it did not go well.
wait, what? why not? it works for the rest of the world…
would be interested to know an example country you’re thinking of.
wild stuff. thanks!
It’s not hard if you can see the other lights in the intersection.
but why depend on that?
No idea.
Drivers in the US would start treating that middle light as go and we’d be right back to square one
seems like a pretty good reason for revoking a licence to me
You don’t need to do a lot of enforcement to change that behaviour. And you can do the enforcement with red light cameras
Fuck red light cameras and fuck you for suggesting them.
In many localities voters have used initiative powers to ban red light cameras and in some jurisdictions red-light camera fines are deemed constitutional violations because the US Constitution requires those accused of crimes to be able to “confront their accuser” in court which is not possible if the accuser is a machine.
Red light and/or speed cameras are banned in many parts of the US, because courts have repeatedly ruled that they’re unconstitutional. The constitution’s sixth amendment guarantees the right to argue against your accuser in court. This was originally intended to prevent secret surprise court rulings, which the British used against Americans leading up to and during the revolution; The crown would accuse people of crimes and try them without any notice. When they obviously failed to show up to court, they were found guilty in absentia and arrested.
Regional courts have repeatedly banned the cameras, by ruling that because people can’t argue against an inanimate object, the object can’t accuse people of crimes. Basically, the constitution says you have the right to get your day in court, and some courts have interpreted that to mean the automated cameras violate that right.
That’s not how it works. I had to fight a ticket from one of these once.
An invalid ticket, for the record. I was innocent and I could prove it with dash cam footage. I did not run the red light, but as usual everybody acts like accusation is the same as guilt and you know how that song and dance goes.
First, those cameras are almost never operated by the state or the police. They’re run by a private company which is under some kind of contract with your state or municipality. You’ll find this is why racking up tickets from red light cameras usually can’t put points on your license.
Anyway, you will face your accuser in court if you challenge the ticket. That person will be some lackey from the company that owns the cameras, whose job it is to show up to court. Theoretically this person was also supposed to have reviewed the evidence related to the incident in question, and this is what lets them get around that pesky constitutional requirement you mentioned. In my state the requirement is that two pictures must be shown, a before and after, positively depicting the vehicle in question crossing into the intersection. In my case the second picture was mysteriously absent from the ticket, which of course the state still treated as “valid” until I challenged it. This despite the conspicuous empty square on the printout they mailed me where that photo was supposed to be. The twerp from the camera company tried several tactics (unsuccessfully) to weasel out of producing the second picture until the judge forced him to. To no one’s surprise whatsoever, it showed my car exactly in the same spot as the first picture and my ticket was dismissed.
I still had to take a day off of work to contest it, though, and the private entity knowingly lied and attempted to slap me with a fraudulent ticket knowing full well they would never actually be punished for doing so. And they weren’t.
The guy whose case was right after mine on the docket was disputing a similarly bogus ticket, which he showed me. He was a big black dude with a Harley I saw parked outside. The “damning” photo evidence printed on his ticket showed a skinny white guy in a wife beater on a crotch rocket. I have to imagine he won his case as well, but I did not stick around to find out.
So the system is indeed still bullshit, but not in the way people expect.
That’s not how it works where I live. I had to fight a ticket from one of these once, because I live in an area where courts haven’t ruled the cameras unconstitutional.
FTFY. The rest of your comment needs to have that context in mind, because the cameras’ legality entirely depends on where the camera in question is located.
Only nine states have outlawed red light cameras. Your “many” statement you made earlier is, in fact, just “some.”
The sixth amendment challenge has been proposed several times, but very few of the actual rulings I can find contained anyone successfully using this as an argument. One for instance is The People v. Khaled in California where the camera operators were not available for cross-examination. All the state has to do is provide their witnesses and the sixth challenge goes out the window.
Insofar as red light camera schemes have been declared unconstitutional in state courts, this is most often because the scheme in question exceeded the authority granted to cities and municipalities, which tried to go over the heads of their superseding states. You can call this a win since they were indeed declared “unconstitutional,” but not for the reason you specified. The US Supreme Court has also been silent on the sixth amendment argument.
So, fixed that for you.
If you have to stoop to attacking someone’s grammar in an argument, you’ve already lost. I likely won’t be replying to this comment chain again.
Edit: Lol they edited their comment. The original was only as follows:
Only nine states have outlawed red light cameras. Your “many” statement you made earlier is, in fact, just “some.” So, fixed that for you.
That’s weird. Isn’t the accuser in that case the police or whoever is in charge of those cameras? The camera just provides evidence, doesn’t it?
Isn’t the accuser in that case the police or whoever is in charge of those cameras?
If it were a cop pulling you over and writing a ticket, sure. It would be that cop. They can show up in court and stand as a witness for you to cross-examine. But if the entire system is automated, which specific cop is the accuser?
Is the system completely automated in the US? We still have people from that department going through each picture, checking if there is indeed a violation. That person will then type out your license plate and a letter is sent to you.
If you pay, it’s done. If you don’t pay you will have to show up to court and make your case, while they will show up with that picture and date/time as proof.
The accuser in that case is the person that read the license plate from the picture.
Motherfucker, if you’re at the head of the line, its only common courtesy to shove your phone up your ass, and move! Do you think the light is gonna get greener? The fuck are you doing up there?
You’re in pole position, you have a responsibility to those behind you. Be considerate and pay attention.
Yeah, and for anyone concerned, this doesn’t mean jam on the gas, but you got a make some move. You can be conscious of intersecting traffic and whether they’ve actually come to a stop, as well as aware of everyone behind you apparently being in a huge hurry, because they always are. So take your foot off the brake, let me see those brake lights go away, and it’s at least a signal to everyone that we are underway here at Silverstone.
I assume the person in front is waiting for the red light runners to clear the intersection before starting.
Get off the phone you fucking imbecil. Stop making people’s days any worse than they need to be.
It’s natural to take a second before taking off, either unintentionally or intentionally due to safety. Maybe leave on time to account for those extra few seconds that they are holding you up.
It’s not only natural, it’s a good idea. Especially if you are crossing a large road.
I ride a motorcycle more often than not (see user name) and it’s vital to ensure that the cross traffic is actually stopping when their light is red. You aren’t “protected” because your light is green, and there’s nothing physically stopping any asshole blowing the light and ramming into the side of you, probably without slowing down in the slightest first. That’s because they’re also staring at their phone. I can’t even go a week anymore without watching some moron sail straight through a red light right in front of me such that if I hadn’t spotted them first they would have run me over. And it’s happening more and more often as drivers are more distracted than ever before. A couple of years ago I’d only see this sort of thing once every few months.
Do you not understand what, “the second the light turns green” means?
Do you not have yellow lights that tell that they are about to change?
Some intersections you cannot see the cross-traffic signals. Some intersections don’t have much cross-traffic to watch, either.
Interesting how you’re taking the asshole’s side, though.
Could say the same about you. Stop wasting time for other people. Have some decency.
Yea and that’s explicitly not the context of the original post.
That…makes so much sense.
Not the one you commented to, but not where I drive.
Not in Canada and I believe also not in the US. The yellow only comes before red, not before green.
Here it’s red, green, yellow, red, green, yellow…
That phrase tends to be much less literal when its said by those who are getting honked at regularly to move off from the lights.
If someone is telling you they get honked at all the time for no reason there usually is a reason (or several) and they just refuse to acknowledge what they’re doing.
