• dmehaffy@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      Our system isn’t about guilty or not guilty but “beyond a reasonable doubt”

      If there is reasonable doubt then someone can’t be guilty (or shouldn’t) and the burden to prove that is on the prosecution.

      I’m not saying it’s a good system, or that I agree or disagree but that is our system.

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      11 months ago

      Their opinion is a “conspiracy” but my opinion is “right”

      Either way the state has the burden to prove he did the crime, I am not sure why you are this confident he did it. I guess fake news shill ops worked on you as intended lol

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          Obviously I don’t know for sure. But there are plenty of videos of the shooter and plenty of videos of Luigi hitting on a girl, but no videos of evidence combining these videos together. Where is the video of Luigi leaving the hostel and prepping his get away and then shooting the CEO?

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    11 months ago

    He literally walked up and shot the man in broad daylight on the street.

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    11 months ago

    The pictures of Luigi in the lobby of the hostel were taken 3 miles away from the shooting, two weeks before the shooting. The jacket, backpack, eyes and eyebrows of the shooter don’t match Luigi’s. I think that immediately after the shooting, cops used Palantir or similar technology to do an AI search of images similar to the shooter. That just meant anyone on a camera the cops had access to wearing a green jacket with a hood and a black neck gaiter. The image of Luigi smiling at a girl in the lobby of a hostel two weeks earlier was the best match the AI found, so they framed his ass. Cops do it all the time. Ask the Central Park Five. NYPD and prosecutors would rather let a guilty man go free than admit that they lied and framed someone.

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    11 months ago

    Sounds like fake ass bullshit to me.

    Free Luigi yall ain’t got shit no video footage nothing.

    “He has read 300 books!!!” Is all i see from clowns supporting this regime.

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    11 months ago

    Goes to show how much this isn’t about Luigi, or even Brian Thompson. It’s about the elite sending a message to the other 99%. Think, even if their case against Luigi is rocky at best, all that matters is they can get him to pay for Brian, regardless of whether he did it or not, or where the evidence points.

    All that matters is that we the “peasants” get the underlying message:

    • If you kill/harm an elite they’ll chase you and make you pay with the full weight of their resources (and emphasis on “resources”, not necessarily “law”).
    • If you did not kill or harm an elite you’re still at risk, because then they’ll choose a “peasant” scapegoat to pay anyway.

    All that matters is that they get to take their pound of flesh, and that the “peasantry” gets discouraged to fight for their rights as the elite takes, and takes and takes.

    Which is why it’s so important that regardless of Luigi having done it or not, he should walk free unless there’s solid, undeniable evidence of him doing it, like an actual and verified non-deepfake video of the assassination with his clear face on it. And even then he must only face the consequences the law demands, and what others would face in his place for killing the everyday average Joe. The fact that the life lost was an elite should have no bearing on the consequences.

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      11 months ago

      But that’s actually a risky strategy. If it becomes too obvious they’re pinning it on the wrong guy, the narrative will flip to “If you kill one of them, they will just have a random scapegoat take the fall and let you go free”

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      Sure, but it’s gonna be a real stupid attempt if they take it to trial with such shaky evidence, all it takes is a single juror going “lol no way do I trust that evidence” and the jury is hung, a few jurors on his side and he could likely be found not guilty and that would be the end of that, no retrial, he walks a free man.

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        I assume that jury selection on this particular trial was almost certainly tampered with to pick the least sympathetic to accused to out right bribed or blackmailed into being told how they will decide the case or else.

        Brian Thompson was murdered, but all the evidence that has been made publicly available certainly suggest that Mangione had nothing to do with it. The images release of the shooting and the hotel do not match, purportedly the hotel images were 2 weeks old at the time, we’ve gotten no other proof that he was even in the city on the day of the shooting, as well as the backpack found in central park abandoned, yet supposedly 3 days later the suspect had the fake IDs, weapon and manifest on his person while out to lunch?

        I’m sorry but no, this entire thing reads like they just want to crucify Luigi because they fucked up their investigation so bad they’re never going to catch the real culprit and his name must have been on a watch list or something to make him a convenient scapegoat.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        A hung jury is not an automatic dismissal. The judge can allow a retrial and in this case they absolutely will. Over and over again, until they get the result they want.

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      Even with that lets be clear Mr. Tompson was responsable for many more deaths for the sake of profit, only deemed not murder because its legal, I do not care if there where 30 videos proven to be genuine, and he said his name when he did it, the jury should nulify. Not because murder is correct, but because well millions died in part because of Brian Tompson, and if the state will do nothing to hold him accountable someone else has to.

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    It’s never made sense to me, TBH. I’ve just assumed he’s being railroaded. In his case the cops just planted a gun instead of drugs like they do to every other person they want to lock up without cause.

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    11 months ago

    It seems more and more everyday that vigilante justice is the only justice against this corrupt corporate tyranny. I think we all wish this wasn’t the case but as my dad used to say you can wish in one hand and 💩 in the other and see what hand fills up first

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    So they not only have to find 12 people who haven’t been fucked personally or had friends family fucked by their health insurance, now those 12 people have to be blind Pig supporters?

    Anything other than a not guilty (or some insanely strong evidence with a perfect chain of custody) verdict for this guy and the fix is in.

    If they convict Luigi get the fuck out while you still can, cause the alternative is guerilla warfare against the Gilead states of orange stupidity.

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    11 months ago

    I’ve been saying all along everything happened too quick for him to be the actual guy. It was pretty clear to me they were desperate to make an example of someone quickly and not accurately.