And omg! I have slept on this feature for so long. I assumed it was just dragging windows to corners and they snap on to the left or right back or top. Then, I installed PopOS and saw an explicit button to turn on windows tiling but I was already using the drag function, so I was confused. I turned it on and omg! I have not felt more stupid and happily surprised by a piece of tech in a while. It just works. I don’t have to be worry about arranging windows a special way for multitasking or for following guides. So much time saved.
How to make the most of it? Have you had a similar experience with something?
How to make the most of it?
Use workspaces, I almost never used it before because I was set in my ways, but after switching to tiling WM it’s a must and increases productivity by a LOT, I’ve grown so used to it that using windows with a mouse feels super clunky and cluttered.
I have tried using workspaces on Mint (without tiling) and it felt decent. PopOS has a different philosophy about workspaces which I feel makes more sense with tiling. I will give it a shot.
Yeah, it was a revelation when I discovered tiling. I was always doing work with two windows open, and i’d spend so much time fiddling and resizing the windows. Then i’d open a third window and wouldn’t know what to do with it.
I used i3 for many years and switched to sway when migrating to wayland. It does what I need and see no reason to try hyprland or other tilers.
This first paragraph is so me.
Any good wayland implementation? I’m OS hopping to fedora kinoite. I never used tiling now I see the difference from your reply. I’m the dummy.
Sway is wayland. I’ve never used anything else. People rave about hyprland. Others in this thread have recommend plugins for the usual desktops. Probably easy enough to try one for whichever desktop you use now.
I don’t know how anyone does anything with tiling windows. They must all be sooooo small…
At most I have about 3 windows open at a time per workspace with 4 workspaces being used at a time for specific tasks. With the combo of tiling and workspaces I have never run into an instance of “clutter” on my desktop. This is off a single monitor setup too that I also use on my laptop.
You don’t usually have them all open at the same time, you minimize some. Or maybe you add more monitors.
So you never have >2 windows open?
It depends, up to four works for some apps depending on monitor size, but otherwise I do the same thing as @Nibodhika@lemmy.world.
Overlapping window managers, the most common type in use by far, just seem crazy to me. Windows almost never use the available monitor space, and they have to constantly be wrangled around each other so that… you can drag something instead of using the clipboard, I guess?
Haha yeah I agree completely. I don’t understand how anyone prefers floating windows. It just feels so clumsy to use now that i’m used to tiling.
That’s where workspaces come in place, I usually have a single full screen application per workspace, so Meta+1 is my browser, Meta+3 is my IDE, Meta+4 is slack, etc. Some workspaces have more than one application, e.g. I usually keep a few terminals in Meta+2.
This means that I usually work with things occupying all of my screen and in a short keystrokes I’m in whatever I want to be. But if I ever need to open a terminal or a random application it will occupy half my screen and whatever I was doing would resize to the other half, so I never have to grab my mouse to move stuff over to be able to see what I was doing.
I usually have a single full screen application per workspace
Forgive my ignorance but doesn’t that just defeat the purpose?
Nope, they complement each other, you can have workspaces in non tiling window managers, but they’re a must in tiling ones. But the tiling does play a very crucial part, for example my workspace that has the terminals can have several terminals depending on what I’m doing, and being able to open/close terminals and having the remaining adjust is a big part of why I use a tiling window manager. It’s just efficient because 99% of the time when you have 2 apps open you want to look at both simultaneously, so not having to move stuff around with the mouse makes that easier, and for the remaining 1% you just move the app you don’t currently care about to another workspace, so it’s somewhere easily accessible when you want to.
I installed I3 a few times. I did not get it and I was to lazy to look up how to use it. Somehow your post made me install it again. This time I took that moment to look up how to use it. Less than 15 min later I found myself banging my head against the wall. Should have looked it’s usage up the first time I installed it. This is what I need like 70% of the time. THNX!
Lol. Same thing happens with me. I always install a popular software, immediately find it unintuitive and badly designed, uninstall it. Then I install it again in a few days, weeks or months and then learn how to use it. Then I rarely uninstall it.
Do popup window notifications also tile? I have a problem with those sometimes appearing under a window and I never see them.
Most tiling window managers still have floating window capabilities, and notification popups will be on top of tiled windows.
I partially get around the loss of my tiling WMs on my work PC (macbook) by leaning heavily into tmux. I know there are MacOS tiling managers like spectacles but I prefer using applications that are multiplatform so I have “transferable skills”.
Check out Amethyst for MacOS.
100%. Learning a crossplatform thing is always better, especially when using proprietary OS.
How useful is tmux as compared to regular tiling? It might be a bit janky, I suppose.
Depends how much time you spend in the terminal but if you spend a lot of time there then it can just about replace a tiling VM with a maximised terminal screen. Has full functionality to add workspaces, sessions and split windows horizontally/vertically.
Ohh, so if I want to go full terminal, this might be better.
I really like using the PopShell extension on Gnome. I’m hoping it doesn’t die out when Pop moves to their new Cosmic DE. So far I still prefer Gnome.
They will probably gradually change things. A sudden change to the DE can be jarring and confusing to most beginners (to whom it is marketed)
@npdean I used bspwm for some time and really enjoyed it coming from xfce. I also felt a bit stupid to have moved windows around manually.
Briefly tried hyprland and sway.
Currently I am in love with niri.Tiling WMs are incredibly powerful tools for boosting productivity. Over the years, I’ve tried several: awesome, i3, and dwm. Eventually, I settled on bspwm, which I’ve used for years. It offers far more than you’d expect from a traditional tiling WM—especially thanks to its excellent IPC. That’s why I couldn’t switch to Wayland for the longest time—none of the available options came close to what bspwm gave me.
But just two days ago, I discovered niri, and it completely changed my perspective. It felt like the first time I ever used a tiling WM—like a whole new world had opened up.
Niri fits into the same category as bspwm but takes window management even further. It introduces infinite horizontal scrolling, a novel approach that complements traditional tiling layouts. Combined with a robust IPC (something essential for my workflow), niri allows you to arrange windows dynamically in ways I’ve never seen before—including tabbed layouts that act as a vertical counterpart to its horizontal scroll.
Here’s a short video that only scratches the surface of niri’s potential, but it’s enough to spark your imagination about how customizable and flexible it really is. Personally, I’m deeply grateful to the developers for giving me a reason—and a way—to finally switch to Wayland. I had been desperately waiting for a reliable, robust, and fully-featured tiling WM for Wayland—and what I got was a unicorn I never even imagined.
I’m seeing several peeps mention Niri and it’s causing me to get excited when that Niri config finally gets merged into CatchyOS. I’ve been waiting for so long for some distro to adopt it. Though, I would of preferred an image based, immutable and atomic distro, CatchyOS Will do. (I tried NixOS but something wasn’t working for me)
I started with pop!_os and still use it (though now with a proper TWM on top), and I can’t go back to a non-tiling desktop honestly lol. I can’t wait for COSMIC to come out as even in alpha that’s my favourite tiling experience
Which TWM? What is the advantage over the default one?
I’ve tried out a bunch, but at the moment I’ve mainly been playing around with hyprland, cause it’s also a dynamic tiler and im used to that layout now
The main advantage to me tbh is that certain windows don’t overflow the assigned tile space like in pop-shell (this is also fixed in cosmic), but there are other things like having all your move/resize actions on the main mod layer instead of needing to enter adjust mode (super + enter is the default keybind on pop-shell), and the fact it uses wayland instead of x11
Of course there are also things that can be downsides depending on how you see it, like the fact it’s a TWM not a desktop, which means if you want to adjust any setting you’ll need to manually adjust config files, and that it doesn’t come with things like a top bar or app launcher etc. So it can take a while to get up and running
What do you use it for? How much does it make your experience better?
What do you use it for?
Everything? Lol. I mean… I just run my desktop in hyprland, no matter what im doing. Which for me I guess is gaming, drawing, some coding, and writing… oh and tinkering with linux (though honestly I mostly do that in VMs)
How much does it make your experience better?
I’d say it’s an improvement over GNOME :p… though I have enough issues with the configs that I wouldn’t really recommend it unless you have issues with GNOME that majorly bother you… or unless you use one of the premade dotfile configs that people make lol…
For me being able to adjust the windows with my keyboard without needing to enter a special mode for it, and having windows forced into the tile size was worth it, as it was something that was a pet peeve of mine (and now I get to be annoyed by trying to set up my waybar vertically, tradeoffs lol)
You do not use TWM, do you?
Not quite hah :3
It’s actually not one of the things I’ve tried when looking for the best DE/WM for me, though I might at some point just to see if im missing out on anything
The original TWM is definetely an experience nobody should miss. Like lighting a fire or washing your clothes manually.
Even just the key combos (win+numpad) to do basic tiling in XFCE are a huge plus
Is this a thing on all DEs?
to tell you the truth, I don’t know! I think I just saw someone asking about tiling window managers in some forum, and a reply suggested trying the xfce functions since they mostly just wanted to use two side-by-side windows occasionally. I do it a good chunk of the time now, but it’s not always the most convenient method on small screens & monitors
Oh. A common theme in replies to this post has been that people don’t know much about tiling and are curious but not enough to get into it.
I use XFCE when not on tiling WMs
Well I recently tried Niri, a scrolling window manager and felt the same.
Niri rocks
Sounds interesting. It is a whole new world
Yeah. I have been using tiling managers for years now but if you tile too much on a single workspace, you make windows too small as you run out of space. Niri allows you to extend the same workforce by scrolling sideways or down, so you can keep windows organized like you want in the same workspace.
I have noticed in comments and other online forums that people with smaller screens don’t like tiling due to this exact thing. This is a solution, sadly not implemented widely.
Like how small? I tile on my 14" laptop screen and still infinitely prefer it over floating. Workspaces exist so you don’t clutter up one screen too much. Maybe people aren’t familiar with or used to taking advantage of multiple workspaces? I started using them more when i3 introduced me to a simple super+number hotkey system to switch quickly.
I don’t know. People in general say it doesn’t work well on laptops.
People keep praising twm like a hidden secret. I have tried this multiple times without much attraction. I do not understand something. Maybe everyone has 21" screen.
I have 19" screen. It saves time, especially when you open a tab for minute, then minimise it.
I was using mint and found Gtile, I loved it, now I’ve moved to Fedora (KDE Plasma) and can’t get anything as good as Gtile :(
I use this for KDE tilling https://github.com/anametologin/krohnkite
Edit: It is the active fork of krohnkite, the official repo is dead since 2022.
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I was going a long way, until I built a perfect AwesomeWM configuration for myself, and have not changed it for a while now. I am willing to switch to Wayland-based solution now, as it seems to be a bit more performant, but I just can’t make myself to do it: my config is really cozy and working
My first experience with window managers was Awesome WM and now I’m back on it and I can’t find myself able to go back to Sway(my favorite Wayland window manager) or only use XFCE(my favorite desktop environment). I’m just too comfortable everytime I come back.
I love Linux. You can do this and there is still room for change. I hope some day I too make such a custom thing.
