• Capt. Wolf@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Just remember, no matter what way they spin this, they chose to ignore national security protocols and went out of their way to use an unsecure messaging app. That’s the real story. The witch hunt they’re undoubtedly going to go on is a perfect opportunity to redirect the public, save face, and further erode our freedoms.

    You know, SOP for the whole Trump regime…

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      Actually, I’m more surprised people continue to believe the ‘end to end’ claims of these companies.

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        Signal makes it believable by providing source code and reproducible builds. It doesn’t rule out the possibility that they’ve done something clever with the random number generator, or have the app store you use give you a compromised app, or provide any protection against endpoint compromise, but it’s about as good as you can get.

        Third party apps derived from theirs, which explicitly promise to log all your messages to a server somewhere, like TeleMessage, are, for obvious reasons, far less trustworthy.

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    Funny how the USA went nuts and strong-armed other Western nations to outright ban Chinese hardware and companies due to “security concerns.” Yet allowed using a fork of Signal from a foreign nation, and those concerns were nowhere to be found. IOF is already known to be on par (if not better) with the USA in spying on and creating false flags globally. Yet the highest office chose to use it anyway. Which is beyond stupid given that a fork could have been made and ran by a USA company (or the NSA or whichever three letter agency) specifically for the same use. Hell those agencies already are and have been heavily funding the Signal Foundation.

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      The concerns are big enough that Waltz is being shunted off to the UN instead of being allowed to stay where he is.

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      Yet the highest office chose to use it anyway. Which is beyond stupid

      Or they don’t care because that office is for show and they are kept out of the loop like Musk at SpaceX.

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      No. It’s a wrapper around Signal that sends everything into a corporate cloud. The Isaraeli miltary/defense/espionage whatever have been using this, then sold it to a US company. I’m guessing the company provides wrappers around other apps as well.

      It completely defeats the purpose of E2EE. I’m sure somebody told our oh-so-competent US government that’s exactly what they need.

      Like, it’s actually worse than SignalGate.

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        Goverment officials are required to archive all communications, so it doesn’t defeat the purposes of E2EE because you can’t have full E2EE to start with. If it was propely implemented and didn’t get hacked it would be fine. Tho I guess implementation wise if it really sends all the data to a corporate instead of government cloud that’s a problem as well.

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          If it was propely implemented and didn’t get hacked

          If it was properly researched and approved by DoD and used on authorized, secure devices which were running on secured networks, it would be fine.

          The baseline for security has been pretty decent for years. It’s painfully restrictive which is why they’re chomping at the bit to make it easier, but just slamming a corporate product into use with secret data with no oversight has never been fine even if it was secure.

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        The Isaraeli miltary/defense/espionage whatever have been using this, then sold it to a US company.

        Not at all suspicious. \s

  • FiveMacs@lemmy.ca
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    16 days ago

    Hopefully someone releases all their messages to throw more shit in their faces. Overwhelm them with bullshit just like they did to everything