This community usually discusses consumer rights, but nobody is discussing this initiative. Is it maybe cuz Lemmy’s majority ain’t American?

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    7 months ago

    Anyone remember blackout for gaza? It was performative then for a much more important cause with much more public support.

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    7 months ago

    no. I think Goatse would make more of an impact than Clippy. But something tells me there’d be a problem with that

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    7 months ago

    What’s that clippy stuff about? I asked elsewhere and someone posted a youtube clip. Not gonna waste 15 minutes of my life watching this shit.

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      7 months ago

      Clippy never sold your data or demanded a subscription fee for something you already bought. Clippy just tried to help.

      The clippy movement is not about clippy as a program, but as an idea that companies need to be held accountable, and that we will hold them accountable.
      If a company tries to make a feature a paid subscription after you paid for the product, or releases and update that removes your privacy, we will be watching and we will hold them accountable.

      Companies can lie to one person or hide changes from a few people, but they can’t handle all of us. Samsung has already reversed their added subscription fee for a smart TV as a result of community action.

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          It’s about that, but it’s also at this point just about showing and spreading the community. People will be more likely to actually take action if they know that there are more like them.

          will most people with clippy as their pfp actually do anything beyond a few comments? nope. but there will be more people who do than if clippy wasn’t used as a mascot

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    7 months ago

    We don’t discuss companies screwing us here but us screwing companies.

    I think the clippy movement is cute so yes I’m wearing the mask, just let me know when we’re blowing up parliament.

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      7 months ago

      Why isn’t there a V for Vendetta 2? I guess after they broke through the barricades, they changed their pfp and called it a day

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    7 months ago

    Louis should know better, and that makes me wonder about his intentions. I’ve supported him in the past but this just has me confused.

    Edit: I’m not entirely sure this is malicious, but I think he knows that this goes against his own advice on how to start change, and is too stubborn to admit it.

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    7 months ago

    It is very silly.

    The video is monetized, and by having some ppl change their pfp to clippy and then linking to his video - I mean congrats to Mr. Rossmann for the big $$$

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        7 months ago

        I’ve only seen one other video of his, and I have to agree with you. He — at least in that video I saw — talked like an angry manosphere podcaster and it’s not something that I enjoy. It’s too bad because I think his message was pretty good. It was about digital cameras requiring apps for it to function and how that’s bullshit.

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          He became famous for fixing computers, mostly Apple products, while complaining about how bad Apple Genius bars were, and how unfair Apple’s business practices are. I can respect that, and it was good that someone was speaking up about it.

          You’d expect someone like that to be pro-regulation, anti-monopoly, pro-union, etc. But, it does seem like his motivation is more libertarian, and that’s what makes me worry.

        • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          7 months ago

          I agree with what you’re saying but you REALLY 100% write like an LLM

          Edit: you are an LLM which is worse

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            7 months ago

            The only thing LLMy about their comment is the emdashes - nothing abiut the rest of the structure or word choice says LLM to me. Neither does anything in their post history (again, aside from the use of emdashes).

            • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              7 months ago

              Not the ENTIRE TONE OF THE COMMENT? I’m bout to call you a LLM as well at this point

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                7 months ago

                Wtf? I’ve been using emdashes since I was a kid ever since, you know, my teacher taught me how to fucking use them. Sorry about not being an idiot, I guess.

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                7 months ago

                I’ve interacted with k0e3 in the past, they’re no LLM. Even then, a quick profile check shows it. But you didn’t check it, right? Of course you didn’t, it’s easier to vomit assumptions and re-eat your own vomit, right?

                And the comment’s “tone” isn’t even remotely close to typical LLM output dammit. LLMs avoid words like “bullshit”, contracting “it is not” into “it’s not” (instead of “it isn’t”), or writing in first person. The only thing resembling LLM output is the em dash usage—but there are a thousand potential reasons for that.

                (inb4 assumer claims I’m also an LLM because I just used an em dash and listed three items.)

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                  7 months ago

                  Haha! I’ve successfully fooled a human into believing I’m one of them!! I mean, thank you Lvxferre.

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      7 months ago

      He barely makes money off of these videos (negligible) and encourages all his users to use adblockers.

      Given his target audience I’m sure he’s at the lower end of the money paid per view. Also he could’ve taken a sponsorship on anyone of his hundreds of videos but he has not so far, so not really big $$$

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      7 months ago

      This screams, “SHOOT THE MESSENGER!” If you wait around looking for a perfect, pristine leader of a movement, you’ll get less done than a petition.

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      7 months ago

      Crazy thing is he also uploads to Odysee and paid to develop grayjay, I’m not even subscribed to his youtube channel and thanks to him I’m moving as many subs off the platform as possible. Quite a few creators upload all their shit to other platforms.

      also if you’re watching someone who advocates for adblockers without using one yourself that’s on you.

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    7 months ago

    Maybe just delete your youtube account? I’ve never even had a youtube account at all and I’m a heavy youtube consumer…

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      7 months ago

      hmm, I’m only starting a discussion to enjoy and farm karma tbh, but you surprised me. In my experience, only normie stuff, political propaganda (chad Trump, Putin or my country’s governor) or women in little to no clothing constitute the whole of your recommendation if you don’t use an account. Even on new phone, new sim card data.

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        7 months ago

        Sure, I don’t use the youtube algorithm. You could just use any alternative fronted like grayjay (unfortunately made by this guy above) or newpipe. Then you don’t fall prey to the algorithm but rather have a feed based on your own subscriptions.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        7 months ago

        Let me blow your mind even more: I don’t access the YouTube website at all, and therefore I never see their recommendations.

        I use FreeTube.

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    7 months ago

    Pff. This reminds me of the This Is Bob protest against the forced Google+ accounts that were the beginning of youtube enshittification. It didn’t do shit. Anyone who wants a profile on youtube nowadays has a Google account. Google+ may have failed but the intent and mission behind it didn’t. Google has total control over anyone who wants to use YouTube now.

    You can set clippy as your profile pic and feel like you have done something, but it’s not gonna change anything.

    If people want to actually do something, they should abandon these predatory services and go open source or maybe become anti tech as much as possible. It doesn’t matter whether or not you signal to the Zuckerburgers on top how you feel if you’re just gonna continue to use their products.

    The only thing that would scare them would be the numbers plummeting if they saw a mass exodus from their platforms and services and people actively began looking for alternatives. But most people can’t be fucked to do that because they are too enmeshed with these services that it is easier to stay. But putting clippy as your profile pic is super easy and costs you nothing so yay. You get to feel like you did something without actually sacrificing anything to make change and the Zuckerburgers will look at you and shrug. “Ah, the peasants are blowing off some steam again”.

    Sorry for being so negative, but this is honestly so fucking weak. I may have missed something, but when has slacktivism ever changed the minds of these companies?

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      7 months ago

      when has slacktivism ever changed the minds

      Hey, don’t you remember how changing your Twitter profile picture to have a green overlay encouraged the Arab Spring to bring lasting democracy all over the Middle East?!? /s

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        7 months ago

        Lol, did people do that? I only remember the black square for the blm movement, but I have also never really been on Twitter, so most of what I know about trends on that platform is what has been shared on other platforms.

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      7 months ago

      Only one thing you can do to these bloated lizard-ass fuckers sipping boy-blood and soaking in little girl pussy on the most otherwise beautiful land in the world as the paranoiac securitization gradually creeps out from them building seemingly spontaneous bunker complexes everywhere they step will ever dissuade any of them from literally anything.

      I do of course mean voting. You should vote for them.

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      Google+ may have failed but the intent and mission behind it didn’t.

      Google+ was Google’s attempt to take on Facebook with its own social product. It definitely failed, and the intent and mission failed too. That isn’t to say that they have no social data, but they definitely don’t have access to the full social graph that Meta does.

      It wasn’t a complete failure. Before Google+ Google’s various products were all siloed. Your data in gmail was in a different silo from you data from search, which was different from your data from Google Reader, etc. As part of the Google+ push, Google put out an EULA that basically said that it could share data from any google product you used with any other google product you used and it was one big unified account now. Thanks to that, they’re able to target their ads based on much more data. But, they still wish they’d been able to get a Facebook competitor up and running so they could see more clearly who your friends and family were. There’s so much interpersonal data they’re missing out on.

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        Overall what he promotes/fights for are good things. But in short what I don’t like about him is:

        • he believes to be the morals authority
        • the standards he is advocating for don’t apply to him (for example fighting for open source just to release an app which isn’t open source)
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        Nothing stands out very far regarding the negatives. I could speculate to a few things, though. He’s not a Socialist. When the going got tough for him and his business he uprooted and moved out of NYC to Texas. I can’t really think of anything else objectionable. I actually like him, though so I may be biased.

        For the positives, he’s helped drive a lot of the Right to Repair legislation in this country as he’s reported a lot of discussions he’s had with real legislators. He runs a website for mac product repair as a reference that also operates as a non-profit. He runs a daytime business repairing mac products that employs several other people. Generally he posts a lot to keep people up to date increasingly as an electronics-oriented influencer, but he used to post mac repair videos almost exclusively and he talked about having to navigate Apple’s influence on regulating the second-hand market. He has also given platform to a number of other mac & electronic repair people.

        To me he seems to talk-the-talk and walk-the-walk when it comes to Right to Repair, but like I said, I might be biased.

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    Those businesses give no flying fucks about signals you’re angry; they only care about money. So unless you use the Clippy avatars to mobilise people and to hurt those businesses’ revenues, it’ll do nothing.

    (For YouTube, this means to stop or at least reduce platform usage. After all its revenue comes from ads.)

    Where’s that mobilisation? *cricket noises*