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return2ozma@lemmy.worldBanned from community to News@lemmy.world · 7 months ago

Even the NRA is against Trump team plan to ban trans people from owning firearms

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Even the NRA is against Trump team plan to ban trans people from owning firearms

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return2ozma@lemmy.worldBanned from community to News@lemmy.world · 7 months ago
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Second Amendment groups fire back at Justice Department over potential proposals to block trans people from possessing guns
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  • TheLunatickle@lemmy.zip
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    Well obviously, the only thing the NRA has ever cared about is selling guns. They may couch it it reasons like freedom or safety but the real reason has always just been profits.

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      Not really, that happened in 1977. See the “history” section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association?wprov=sfti1

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        what about in the last few generations

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          As I stated, the change was in 1977, and the NRA became a gun industry shill after that. The comment I was replying to said it had “never” been anything but that, when for the first hundred years it was an overall nonpartisan and anodyne organization.

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      Yes that’s the theory of why capitalism good by liberals

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      Well, not exactly https://www.history.com/articles/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act

      Also ironically the gun laws that Republicans poke fun at in California are thanks to Reagan.

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        The Mulford act was passed in 1967, when the NRA was still a nonpartisan organization that promoted gun safety and responsible ownership. In 1977 there was an internal coup that replaced the leadership with a group of second amendment extremists (or gun industry shills) who proceeded to turn the NRA hard to the right.

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          I wish the NRA continued what it used to be.

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    Many trans people are white.

    I remember the NRA’s response to the murder of Philando Castile.

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    Let’s be honest here, support is s strong word and we all know the limited support is limited to white trans people.

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    Where are all those commenters who said the NRA is anti LGBTQ?

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      We’re over here thinking the NRA has noticed how much flack they still get for the Mulford Act, which was the previous time they collaborated to take second amendment rights away from a marginalized group.

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    This shouldn’t surprise anyone. The NRA (or its political arm) is a lobbying group for the gun industry. Banning any group from buying guns hurts the gun industry.

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      They didn’t complain, or at least loud enough for me to hear, when he banned some gun accessories on his last term. Was it bump stocks or something?

      None of his base did, despite losing their shit about Obama and Joe “going to do it”, even though they didn’t

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    They banned guns when the black Panthers had them.

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      The NRA did not do that. California did that.

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        The NRA fully supported the bill

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          Which changes nothing. The NRA didnt do that nor were they particularly powerful in the 1970s.

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    How long till they start legally labeling all trans people as “mentally deficient” or declare them all no longer citizens just to bar them from having guns?

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    First shot across the bow at taking guns away from Trump/MAGA dissenters and political opponents. They start with a group they don’t think will incite too many, particularly the generally pro-2A Americans. Next it’ll be gays, then anyone with any connection to antifa, then just Democrats in general.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols

    The Pink Pistols is an LGBTQ gun rights organization in the United States and Canada. Their motto is “Pick on someone your own caliber”.[1]

    I expect that this is kind of up their alley, too.

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      That motto is pretty badass honestly

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      For some reason I always thought their slogan was ‘armed gays bash back.’ Maybe I’ve just seen stickers on things of that slogan paired with Pink Pistols logos a lot.

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    “Even” the NRA? They’re the last ones who would support a gun ban.

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      Even in recent years the NRA has been mixed at best when it comes to minority gun ownership. Think of all those cases where a cop shoots a black man because “they thought they saw a gun.” Whenever that happens, it’s crickets from the NRA. The cops claim the right to shoot black gun owners, even just perceived black gun owners all the time. Yet the NRA rarely comments on such cases. They should be shouting from the rooftops in such cases. Why the hell does a cop seeing a gun give them permission to shoot someone?

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      Nope, the “even” is important. The NRA supports gun control when minority groups are buying guns.

      In contrast to the NRA’s rigid opposition to gun control in today’s America, the organization fought alongside the government for stricter gun regulations in the 1960s. This was part of an effort to keep guns out of the hands of African-Americans as racial tensions in the nation grew. The NRA felt especially threatened by the Black Panthers, whose well-photographed carrying of weapons in public spaces was entirely legal in the state of California, where they were based.

      https://www.history.com/articles/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act

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    “without due process”.

    There’s their caveat.

    So if a trans person is arrested and adjudicated as being mentally ill, the NRA is totally OK with that.

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      Due process means a trial. If someone murders a bunch of people the NRA will not necessarily back their 2A rights.

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