The company destroying YOUR White House without YOUR permission is Aceco LLC. Vote with your dollars people: let’s make sure this company never gets any business ever again and goes under.
Canadians: We’ll do it for free like back in the old days.
Pls
Solar panels? Nope!
Pile of rubble? Yeah!
I have this strong mental image of MAGAts hearing about this and hiring these guys to knock down the houses they live in to own the libs. I mean they already voted in a rapist conman who was guaranteed to sink the economy to do the same, I’m wondering if there is any limit to the masochism they will indulge in to hurt other people.
I don’t know if liberaldom could recover from being owned so completely!
On point as ever.
I miss shitty stores like this.
Shitty stores are still very much around.
Canada would have done it free of charge, just like Canada did in 1812.
Canada didn’t do anything in 1812. It was the British army. Canada didn’t even exist until 1867.
It was British settlers actually, who became Canadians.
unlikely, that was 55 years later.
Sounds like a fun alternative to the movie Red Dawn, where Canadians overtake America.
Yes please. I want to go there anyways. Would be nice to be governed by some place more sensible. I know it’s not perfect but it’s leagues better than we have here at the moment.
Wikipedia has an entire list of corporate donors for the new ballroom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Wing#2025_demolition
Soo…crypto scams and scammers, Amazon, Comcast, and palantir. just some of the worst folks around.
I don’t see the list. Just that this company is the contractor for the new Epstein Ballroom.
The list is actually on this Wikipedia page
Your tax dollars at work. The in-group doesn’t pay taxes.
If they get paid.
They’re getting paid by the government, not trump personally - I’m assuming they’ll get paid much more than the job is actually worth, possibly as payment for some previous or future job for trump. There will be some angle to every contact issued for the whole project.
I love the sentiment, but Trump’s sycophants will simply contact Google and all those negative reviews will disappear.
Edit: They’re already doing it
The company’s rating dropped at one point to 1.8 stars, until Google revised it to 4.1.
you could make a meme out of it that just keeps echoing through the internet like the whole Four Seasons thing.
Or you could
Removing review bombs is automated. This happens every single time a business gets negative attention. And every single time people still do it anyways.
If trump would give a shit, which he doesnt
But the construction company and Trump’s maggots do.
Google is complicit
Actively participating is not complicity.
Call them and tell them yourself.
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Their site currently claims to be under construction. Or have they been demolished?!
Next their webshite will be a room full of balls (I assume that’s what is getting erect over the rose garden?).
Lol, their site’s “down.”
www,google.com says “Could not post the question”… Censorship in real time.
I mean… I hate what Trump is doing as much as the next guy, but review-bombing the demo company for doing proper demo? That’s just stupid. It’s the equivalent of a child throwing itself down on the floor of the supermarket, yelling, and stomping feet - it achieves nothing, but makes life harder for everybody.
If they’re a good demo company and someone needs demolition done, they won’t find them, because they took a job… Stupid.
And in this sense it’s good that Google is killing the obvious review-bombs.
I dunno. If they took on a historical and cultural demolition without having the correct authority (which they didn’t because we know none of that demolition has been approved by relevant agencies. Donny’s say so is NOT enough, although I can see that it’d be hard to decline the POTUS), then I think there’s a price they need to pay. It’s akin to a soldier obeying Donny 2 Inches unlawful orders. There is an obligation to do the right thing, and obeying orders is not an excuse. Where I come from, demo companies are frequently being fined for middle of the night demolitions of historically protected properties. Obviously, the punishments don’t eclipse their profits, because it does keep happening, but THAT is a whole other story.
If they took on a historical and cultural demolition without having the correct authority (which they didn’t because we know none of that demolition has been approved by relevant agencies.
I didn’t know they didn’t have the necessary paperwork. Still…
Donny’s say so is NOT enough, although I can see that it’d be hard to decline the POTUS)
That’s the problem right there. Normally, POTUS wouldn’t make that request without appropriate paperwork being done. Normally, they could say “no” when paperwork was missing. But right now, the US is so much beyond “normal”, that I don’t blame them for taking on the job. Who knows what went down there? It’s all insanity all the way to the top, so might as well they’ve been strong-armed into doing this, threatened with ICE raids and what not.
I agree with the rest of what you wrote in principle, but look at it this way: if a soldier disobeys an illegal order, the soldier is being put on trial and that’s that. If the demo company’s owner refuses a job, and the insane POTUS goes after them, it’s not just the owner whose livelihood is on the line - their family now loses their source of income. The families of those employed there lose their source of income, etc., etc.
If this was any civilised country, where people get social security and healthcare, I would agree with you 100%. But since it’s the US, these people losing their jobs might mean even full on bankruptcy and homelessness.
I agree that they shouldn’t have done the demo if the paperwork was not in place, but I fully understand why they did it.
And I still think that - unless we see something like that directly from the CEO of that company - calling them “fascist” or “supporters of fascists” is some fundamentalist insanity on par with the Taliban.
It doesn’t make life harder for everyone. It makes life harder for the people who took a job for a fascist. Perhaps they should not have done that.
When I hire contractors, if they are good at the job is the first thing I check. Then, if they are fascist sympathizers is the second thing i check. I want to know and google is stopping my from knowing.
Are they doing a proper demo? You are supposed to need plans submitted before beginning renovations like this and those plans have not been submitted. These seem like the guys you call when you need someone who doesn’t care about following rules.
Google gave 20 million to the project.
*youtube did because of an unrelated lawsuit they settled.
Not sure if it was settled by paying the money spwcifically for the building? Thats weird, I would assume goes to trump and he’ll use it for the building. Idk weird.
I’d imagine those reviews won’t stay up very long then…
Nope, I don’t see any recent reviews.
Run by a republican donor, I bet. And whoever builds the new structure will also be one.
With kickbacks to Donald, of course.
Looks like Google already removed all of them.
Keep adding more
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I mean, why? They accepted a government contract, they didn’t do anything wrong.
Aside from the obvious nazi collaboration points I think that any person. Or any company. Or any thing, entity, etc etc that works for, or with, the orange rapist should not only get boycotted at the very minimum. But also to be ridiculed and investigated with a fine toothed comb.
The tactic should be to find out what other dodgy shit they are doing and bring them down in every and any way possible.Why go to these extremes, you may ask. Simple, if the kiddie fiddling conman had had this treatment in the 80s and 90s then he’d not be able to get away with his shit now, and none of this would be happening now.
With the huge added bonus of numerous women and kids not being sexually assaulted and raped over those years.When it comes to investigating Donvict Drumpf, his actions, and his collaborators then the question isn’t why, it’s why not.
Maybe the same outcome of the construction workers on the Deathstar II?
i don’t think that people hire such companies based on google reviews
as did someone building concentration camps. you have free will to accept or don’t accept any contract and live with consequences.
but to put your mind at ease - i am pretty sure that customers of such companies don’t hire them based on google reviews, so don’t worry, the demolition company is probably safe.
It’s a ball room, not a concentration camp. Critizing the companies who take contracts for core civic or whomever agreed to build that prison in Florida to lock up immigrants would make sense, but this just seems dumb to me.
If Hitler had survived long enough to see his (and Albert Speer’s) vision of Berlin fulfilled, would you be ok with the contractors who decided to work on those projects?
Google is actively funding the project, and we go to Google services to help fund Google to “rebel” against this 1 LLC, even ignoring the other complany who bid on the contract. I get why people think they should boycott them, but no one here will be contracting this company for anything… so why not boycott Google, Microsoft, and Amazon who are actively enabling this regime. (All paying money towards this ball room being built)
People are. You can boycott more than one thing at a time.
At the absolute least, building a grand ballroom in the middle of a government shutdown while you’re depriving people of wages and healthcare is not a good look. And collaborating with the wannabe dictator doing this, even if it’s just to make them look good and not to actually kill or disappear people, is kind of shitty too. I think it’s fair game to go after such companies; they’re part of the support network keeping the regime in power.
While i disagree, i’m shocked how many other people disagree too, but bever when they invade other countries, because these vrave war criminals never have achoice and just do what they’re told.
People here compare this to providing poison to murder people. Simply deranged.
I hope ppl would do more in that case than to just simply write bad reviews.
Is is amazing how easy it is to locate people who are complete moral vacuums. You are a shit person.
This is how “the left” can not win. Antagonizing the most niche, far away thing and then saving things like that when someone disagrees.
Your idea of “winning” is to sell your soul, and be inhuman.
I fully expect they’re buddies with Trump somewhere high up or they wouldn’t have been given the contract.
IG Farben agreed to supply canned pesticide to the Nazis. It was just a government contract too. And guess what: they found out it was a poor business decision after the war.
Only 13 of IG Farben received prison terms, from 1.5 to 8 years, then received senior positions on the successor companies after.
And Amazon provides services for government websites through AWS, are you thinking everyone is going to abandon every product that uses AWS as well? Or are we just targeting low hanging fruit?
The government is a small part of Amazon’s giant business and most of it is just continuing on from before the government went fascist. This company is making a significant portion of their work destroying the fucking White House under a shady plan. There’s a reason this single act is getting more attention than Amazon hosting government servers.
I think it’s a lot more accurate to say these companies were enabling it rather than some random llc that bid on the contract. It would make more sense to stop using all of their services/products.
" dinner for potential donors held at the White House on 15 October included senior executives from prominent US companies including Blackstone, OpenAI, Microsoft, Coinbase, Palantir, Lockheed Martin, Microsoft, Amazon and Google.
Also present was Woody Johnson, the owner of the New York Jets NFL team, and Shari and Edward Glazer, who, together with their siblings, own both the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Manchester United.
A pledge form seen by CBS News, the BBC’s US partner, suggested that donors could be eligible for “recognition” for their contributions. While plans are still being finalised, that recognition could potentially take the form of names etched into the structure."
A principled construction firm does not destroy national landmarks. This isn’t a blind contract, they knew what they’d be doing. I really don’t know why you’re going so hard for them. It’s not that complicated.
Are you asking if we should boycott every company doing business with (or bending the knee to) the fascists in D.C.? Then yes, we absolutely should. Target, T-Mobile, Palantir, Apple, Amazon. Fuck them all for selling out the American people.
I doubt we could find many sites that don’t have some ties/business with the U.S. government. I assume most of Lemmy has ties to AWS or Cloudflare who both support government sites. Lemmy.world uses Cloudflare.
My point was trying to get some random llc shutdown doesn’t do anything. All that will happen is people looking down at others while really supporting much larger bigger-issue companies.
It’s not about purity testing; it’s about harm reduction. I’ll give you an example. T-Mobile is directly collaborating with both Trump (via Trump Mobile, which runs on T-Mobile’s network) and Elon Musk (via a T-Mobile/Starlink partnership). That’s pretty fucking bad from a fascist collaboration perspective. Are Verizon and AT&T any better? A little. They still donated to Trump’s inauguration, but at least they’re not running mobile networks for him. (EDIT: Or paying for his fucking ballroom.) So would I encourage everyone to switch from T-Mobile to AT&T or Verizon, even if that’s not a perfect solution? Absolutely.
I just think it’s a really specious argument that “everything we buy is connected to the U.S. government and therefore no purchase is better or worse than any other purchase.” That just doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.
As for putting pressure on the construction company tearing down the east wing of the white house… I dunno, that seems like fair game to me. We can leave negative reviews for them while also cancelling Amazon Prime.
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The ones that we viably can, sure. That might change depending on the person, and their needs.
Totally. But I’d submit to you that these aren’t normal times where we can just go about our business ignoring politics and using whatever products/services happen to be convenient. Unless each of us individually fights back against the fascists by doing our darnedest to avoid products and services that fund fascist collaborators, we are complicit. Put another way: It is in our power to bring down this regime, and one of the biggest levers we have for doing that is changing our buying habits.
To be entirely clear, that would be ideal. AWS is far too powerful for anyone’s good
are you thinking everyone is going to abandon
everyone? no. someone? yes.
IBM just supplied some accounting machines to Weinmar Germany (they knew what they were counting).
There were no proper authorities issued to demolish the WH. The agencies that do those authorities, weren’t even consulted. This is an illegal, midnight-style demolition, and I guarantee you that the demo company does NOT have the correct permits. If Donny 2 Inches issued the order, it is an ILLEGAL one, and obeying illegal orders (paying attention, ICE cunts ?) is no excuse in a court of law.
While I agree with you, every permit giving agency would have to be under the executive branch and thereby deemed reporting to the president according to the supreme Court rulings at this point. He’s a king in all but name. As soon as he decided to “lift” the sanctions on Russia by simply ordering/dissolving the entities that were supposed to upkeep the laws made by the legislature, he should have been impeached by the house, and removed by the Senate. Yet the Senate would not vote to, so everything he does on federal land (a lot of D.C. because Republicans refused to allow it to be a state) has no one to argue his actions oppose the laws of another body, and thereby have near no protections against his actions.
“I mean why? They were just following orders, they didn’t do anything wrong”
Hahaha you should leave a review saying something to that effect.
Following illegal orders is the thing they did wrong, Cletus.
When you accept a government contract from a fascist government then you did something wrong.
Assignment understood. Done.
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Lib discourse is so wild.
Let’s be clear: taking action like boycotts or whatever against companies collaborating with fascists is 100% appropriate and valid. But there’s so many companies that are complicit in much worse ways than bulldozing the White House. Why should I even give a shit about the White House? How about instead we pressure corporations that are involved in manufacturing weapons and bombs for the regime? Or companies that provide it with data, surveillance, and technical support? You know, the companies that give the admistration material power over people?
By all means, knock yourself out doing this, I’m just confused why everyone is so invested in the White House. But if I had to guess, I’d say it’s because it’s a way of reaffirming loyalty to the state while criticizing it, making the criticism safely toothless. Me, I’d just say that all he did was save us the trouble of knocking it down ourselves.
Libs dont have a coherent moral or political worldview. They are preoccupied with aesthetics and decorum. It is why the libs will not be involved in material change for the better. They simply lack the imagination or will.
EDIT: I worry that people are taking that I am on the side of the Trump admin. I am to the left of the democrats and that is the basis for my disappointment and criticism.
What gets me is that the side pearl-clutching over the White House is arguably more correct than the side pearl-clutching over the demolition company. But, like, how are those the two sides lmao
