As there are not many useful answers here yet, let me try.
From 1933 on, the N…-Regime* required a so called “Aryan certificate” (Ariernachweis) from employees in the public sector. Who and what is Aryan is a debate by itself so I will leave this out, but Jews were a group that were explicitly excluded from that group.
So how would you get this certificate? You needed to proof this with the birth and/or marriage certificates of your ancestors, specifically those of your parent and your grand parents. In special cases you needed even more (like applying for SS/NSDAP), but in general that was it.
Now, the authority issuing these certificates are the Standesämter (Civil registration offices), but they did only issue then from 1876 in the areas on the right of the river Rhine and from about 1807/1815 in the left of the Rhine. This has to do with Napoleon, but that’s a story for another day. Now before the Standesamt, it was basically the protestant and catholic churches that recorded births/baptisms, marriages and deaths and they were required to do so by law. So the churches had to actively help with those certificates.
It was not always a clear line, as obviously, you cannot see if someone is a Jew (even if some very stupid people thought so back then). Also, if as a Jew, your great grand kids were baptized as Christians, they were officially of Aryan origin. So even if the Nazis talked a lot about race, it was more a decision based on religion.
But like I said, this was only required for people working in the public sector and education, but also doctors, lawyers, scientists etc. (which were a couple of millions as you can imagine).
From 1935, with the Nuremberg laws (also called Nuremberg Race laws), every German was required to get an Aryan certificate. However, in 1935 the life as a Jew In Germany was already very hard and complicated, these laws basically stripped them from their last rights that were left. The story is much, much longer and I really recommend you to read about it for example in Wikipedia, as it is excellently documented.
*or Nazi-Regime how I am calling it (because this is not some kind of Lord-Voldemort-Situation)
Edit: I forgot to answer your last question! No, not like ICE in the US. The circumstances are not comparable, and the Antisemitism In Germany was much more systematic and pseudoscientifically profound. Like there were whole disciplines of sciences researching why and which race was better than the other, which resulted from the race theories in the 19the century.
There are definitely parallels and I know Americans are suffering under the fascist regime that is developing at the moment. I am not an expert of US domestic politics, but if I see it correctly, the way ICE is conduction their hunt on humans is unlawful, while the German persecution of Jews was particularly promoted by the German judical system. However, I am not a historian and I guess there are others who are better able to compare these things. As a German, there is something what we call Uniqueness in the context of the Holocaust, which was always the total and absolute aim of the persecution of Jews.
Not really at this scale. According to history, I’d say that even victims of false allegations to the Gestapo during the war years got more diligent investigation, due process, rule of law, and a genuine attempt to find the truth than the people ICE accuses of being illegal immigrants today. Under the Nazis, some crimes like “listening to foreign radio” were notoriously difficult to determine the truth of and of course miscarriages of justice certainly happened regularly, but depending on what you were accused of as long as you were a loyal Nazi and weren’t actually guilty of serious crimes like “friendship to the jews” (/s) you had little to fear from the Gestapo in Nazi Germany. And this is why people were so keen to regularly and performatively prove they were in fact “loyal Nazis”, they felt it would protect them from retribution.
However we also have to remember that the laws they were following were so deliberately unjust it also has to be understood in that context. The Gestapo and the people didn’t HAVE to do anything other than rigorously and consistently following the laws to be unjust, because the laws themselves were so unjust. The regime had already created the fascist state they wanted, with little resistance from most and thunderous applause by many. They were actually much further along the path of fascism and racism and Naziism by then than the USA is now. It is fascinating to see the parallels with modern day, but also important to see the differences.
This is neither a defense or apologism for ICE, any more than it is for the Nazis; they have both committed horrible violations of fundamental human rights and have done and wish to do great evil, but it is important to understand the different situations and the different stages they are at. Trump and his regime may be acting dictatorial but they are not yet actually dictators. They are misusing and abusing laws and justifications and courts to perform fascist actions but they have not yet created an actually fascist police state they can exist comfortably in. Yet. They are working their way there, but they are weaker than they appear, that’s why they have to keep hiding the resistance and making demonstrations of how strong they want you to believe they are. They are more scared of you than they are letting on. And they should be.
That is an accurate description of what happened then and now. The only difference still are death camps.
It just appears the death camps are just being outsourced by this regime. El Salvador, etc.
Don’t even have to go that far I’m still suspicious of the thousands of people not found in Alligator Alcatraz
I was worried about this with CECOT but I think most everyone ended up being released from there? Does anyone know if other American deportees are still being held there?
Unfortunately, I’ve seen very little reporting on other foreign prison camps, so I don’t know what the conditions there are like and who is being held vs released etc. I know some prisoners were released by Costa Rica and allowed to claim asylum there but I believe others are still being held.
Someone in the media really needs to dig into this more. Or if anyone has seen such reporting, please link it.
They didn’t start with death camps, that came later when the camps were full and they needed a “final solution”
There were other reasons behind the switch. SS troops were beginning to become unhappy from shooting large numbers of people. Plus, it consumed a lot of ammunition. And they realized the large pits full of bodies would be found and the world would realize what they had done. The death camps solved all these problems and as bonus were much more efficient.
Historically death camps tend to start out as mere camps, but then suddenly they are full of people who are deemed unwanted anyway and keeping them alive is expensive and difficult so why bother.
On its current trajectory there’s no US camp that shouldn’t be expected to turn into a death camp. And as others have pointed out, thousands “missing” from a huge, poorly managed camp in the middle of a swamp is worrying to say the least.
Americans today are like Germans in the 30s, watching the trains roll by.
You can say “Nazi”. When I first read that title I filled in a different N-word and was very confused.
There was a “n——r regime?”
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Naggers, right?
Nagging used to be hardcore
It was a process. They started by forbidding Jews from holding certain jobs like doctors, judges, lawyers and and also public jobs. They then passed the Nuremberg Laws that restricted citizenship to “full-blooded” Germans only and made it mandatory for Jews to wear specific marks on their clothes that marked them as Jewish (the yellow Star of David was one but there were others). Then they required Jews to live only in specific parts of cities, the ghettos. The last step just consisted of them coming and grabbing everyone from the ghettos and everyone that was wearing the marks, the groundwork had been already set.
You can say Nestle on Lemmy. That’s what we’re talking about right?
They didn’t bother with the pretext. They disappeared gays, Blacks, and political dissidents as well as Jews. No outgroup was safe.
The N… regime?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xc39s7_Iwo8
For fucks sake, start talking English and stop censoring be very word!
Yeah, N word is a slur for National socialists, we have to stop discriminating them, right OP?
They worked towards this using the Nuremberg Laws and the Kennkarte. Most Jews identified themselves as Jewish because the alternative was worse.
Anyways, suspicion was good enough to jail possible Jews. And it got worse and worse in the lead up to the war.
Actually, no. They were far better organized. Initially, you had to get an Arier-Nachweis (certificate of being aryan) to do a lot of things, and Jews and others were excluded from getting those.
Then, later, they basically took anyone without a certificate.
But those were before dna tests so it was pretty flawed. So I’d say the answer is “kinda ya”. If they didn’t believe you then you were Jewish.
You can say Nazi on the Internet.
Maybe he’s getting the rules mixed up with the other N-word.
Naggers?
The category is people who annoy you
Yeah, Nazis annoy me quite a lot actually.

Nuns.
Not if you’re a dumbass.
Check which sub you’re in lol
Oh yeah we need to allow extra leeway for stupidity in this community.
I disagree and as proof I offer … pretty much any comment section.
Fair enough :)) I should’ve said “not if you’re THIS dumbass”
Some would say the internet was made to say Nazi on.
In Germany it was a slow build up of laws basically bleeding the resources from the Jews.
Once Germany invaded Russia the slaughter began in Ernest in Germany and for a short time Jews and other persecuted classes were safer in Germany than in the parts of Russia Germany was conquering.
As for the exact date that “The Final Solution” started and the Germany’s abandoned all pretenses is debated but it is sad to say it was going full steam by 1941.
Why are you censoring nazi? Aren’t we all adults here?
What’s the N…Regime? Are you guys talking about Nazis and self censoring for some reason?













