And not educational content creation either. Most of these kids want to be paid for hot-takes and video game streaming.
On the upside, maybe western youngsters value having a personal life they enjoy more.
We’re cooked
You can see a mix of escapism and “how do I fast track as much money as possible?”
Thwn I’d expect higher figures for musicians, swayed by the top .01% that suck up all the fame and royalties.
I think they realize it’s quite unlikely to “make it” as a musician.
It’s also obvious just how much work being a musician is. Even a child understands that you can’t just pick up an instrument and play your favorite song without training. Whereas the work in being a Youtuber/Twitch streamer is hidden from the audience.
I’d love to see this redone today, except i suspect kids in the us and uk all want to be like, _s_hitler
They need to run this survey again now that the Chinese space station has an air fryer.
It’s funny when you just read the numbers and it’s like the top pick for a US child is to be 29
Dont worry, they will all be increasing shareholder value
They’d better, the fiduciary responsibility of the corporate entity has the one, and only one requirement.
The cancer, deaths, depression, poverty, oppression, etc. is just for fun!
Born too late to explore the oceans.
Born too early to explore the stars.
Born just in time to remind you to hit that like button, share with your friends, and subscribe so you don’t miss a thing.
The West is lost.
We know more about our solar system than our oceans. We might have mapped a bit of the floor, but we don’t know what is between the surface and the ocean floor.
Why don’t scientists just point a telescope at the ocean: are they stupid?
We should send our billionaires down there… for research purposes of course.
“The West”
Sibling what.
that place where the sun sets homie
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I actually don’t think they would prefer that.
We are both actively exploring the stars and the ocean. There’s still a lot we don’t know and there’s still plenty of species being discovered in rainforest all the time.
Bacterias and viruses are also something that you can never finish exploring and there are for sure weird creatures like tardigrades that are still undiscovered.
You’re just in time to discover genetics, epigenetics, biomechanics of nutrition, chemistry, biochemistry, how to make custom creatures from DNA building blocks, protein folding applications, mysteries of how the brain works and even math as mature as it is also has tons of undiscovered parts.
Sure you might be too late and to early for a couple of specific things but science discovery is absolutely exploding and random average Joe types are discovering things all the time. I think on the contrary now is one of the most likely things where you can just flat out discover something about the world that nobody has discovered before.
Pre-COVID. I wonder what it’s like now. Anecdotes from people who work in education seem to say it was pretty devastating for child development, but it’s hard to tell if it’s above and beyond the perennial “this new generation is totally fucked” sentiment.
I mean, if given the chance would you rather have a job where you can chat about your hobbies and get people to send you money and gifts related to your hobby?
No child is picking “Soul crushing office work” are they.
most of the influencers i follow do both and i was getting the sense last night that some of them do the former to make the latter more bearable.
I mean not when the kid pretending to be a roach bum on twitch makes more than I make in a lifetime every single day.
If the turns were tabled - as they were 20 years ago - you’d still have kids wanting to be soul crushingly rich.
“DUHH, IT’S BECAUSE SPEECH IN CHINA IS CENSORED AND YOU’LL LITERALLY GET SENT TO A XINJIANG CONCENTRATION CAMP IF YOU TRIED BEING A VLOGGER”
18+52+37+47+56=210 for China. Each child could pick up to 3 answers. The average number of jobs the Chinese children picked was 2.
For USA/UK the average was about 1. Very few children selected more than one answer.
That’s weird. What a weird poll. Were there only 5 possible choices? I would have told you I wanted to be a veterinarian at that age, if I answered at all. (I did not become a vet, I became a failure lmao)
It’s also possible that these aren’t all of the available answers and they only selected the ones they thought are interesting.
You need to give yourself more credit. You didn’t become a failure, it was within you the whole time; you were always a failure…
That concludes my Pep Talk®
I wanted to be an electrical engineer, then I saw all the math and settled for electrician, then I saw all the math and settled for Janitor
Man, I really can’t get why ppl hate math.
If it doesn’t make sense, it sucks
Math is mostly taught as theory. It should be taught in practice.
Teaching people how to calculate an inventory, or taxes in a spreadsheet, is much more useful than teaching them differentials and number theory.
Its like teaching people carpentry but never having them make anything with it. You just quiz them on which tool and material they need to use.
I get where you’re coming from but i have to disagree. What your describing is not math but econ, a different subject. Math is about how to calculate stuff with least effort.
I agree with you, its no longer math at thst point, but the application in the service of other fields.
What I am advocating for is that math at most of secondary school level should be taught on the practical basis. Math theory should be treated as a field of specialization. Much like how language is taught after people get over the basic literacy portion.
That’s reasonable, but some theory is also good to know. In language class we discuss not just the content of an article but also how it is written. Language itself is a tool here, similar to math.
Another important aspect of school is to ensure that everyone is exposed to many topics. That’s why we have art classes even though most people don’t become artists. It let’s everyone know that this topic exists and what it is about.
The practical implementation of teaching math is bad though, as you said. Sometimes it is just rote memorization, which is the complete opposite of what it should be. I hate that.
Unfortunate, i know lots of engineers who never learned math.
Not an engineer but I took calculus 1, 2, 3, discrete math, linear algebra, statics, dynamics, and probably others I’m forgetting.
Since school, I needed one trig function for calculating distance between lat/long coordinates that I looked up on Wikipedia and plugged in to a program.
… Statics was fucking cool though.
Statics is good fun. That was one of those courses i spent 40-50hrs a week on.
That knowledge is great for other applications too. For example, it helps with visualizing of how tension laid in fallen trees on saw crews for trail maintenance.
I still use statics at work but i could in theory get by with just basic FEA guess and check.
I wanted to be a naval pilot engineer at four. I’m colorblind, terrified of heights, not fond of authority, sloppy, and scatterbrained as hell. It’s quite possibly the worst possible job for me. To be fair, part of the reason was that I hated the word “bellybutton” and thought anyone who said ”navel” instead had the right idea, so it’s not like I really understood that part of it.
How are Electricians needing to do so much math? Its basic calculator and lookup table stuff? I mean a janitor does more complication calculations when they dilute cleaning products and estimate how much they will need for a given room.
I think it’s pretty obvious this is a subset of the answers.
So it seems like, given 3 picks, only 1% of kids are choosing YouTuber as an option. That doesn’t really seem ridiculous.
Edit: it’s 3000 kids total, not per country. So I guess 3% if these are the only 3 countries included.
This poll annoyed me so much I googled it. It’s just a really shitty poll. There is no reason to believe the 5 listed jobs is a subset of the answers. This is an infographic summarizing a single question from a survey that seems to be commissioned by LEGO.
Article from the “Harris Poll”
I couldn’t find like, an academic paper describing the poll. There’s no methodology for it I can find. It’s just some corporate fluff piece, frankly.
So I guess 3% if these are the only 3 countries included
Yep, only 3 countries. This is just a trash poll.
I just figured if 3000 people responded, they should have 9000 picks. Since we only see a few hundred it seemed like it’s a very small subset of the total answers.
Very shitty poll indeed.
Friend, the totals are percentages, not absolute counts
HOLY SHIT. Please no one pay attention to me
It says all the children were given an option to pick up to 3 answers. Given the small sample size, it’s likely there were questioned by the same person and that person didn’t convey that to children properly.
Or they are all very focused on only 1 path.
It says all the children were given an option to pick up to 3 answers.
Mmhmm, I also noticed that, which is why it’s the second sentence in my post.
Given the small sample size
It’s a survey of 3,000? It’s still possible that only one person was giving the survey to the Chinese students.
But yeah, it does look like the Chinese students got different instructions or had them explained differently or something. Just a strange poll.
The thing I find most surprising is that this many kids want to be teachers. It doesn’t sound like something kids would typically be interested in, nor do I remember me nor my friends ever wanting to be teachers.
I know a former teacher in China who told me that it’s a very respected profession there, in the same way that doctors and lawyers are respected in the west.
A lot more children from developing countries tend to want to be teachers because education is not taken for granted there (even when it has been universally available for a couple generations like it is now in China, the times in which it was not are still in living memory…go back to the 1960s and 70s and you still had many people in especially rural China who had very low levels of education). Education is seen there as a noble profession helping people on the path to a better life, and they look at teachers not too differently from how they look at doctors.
By contrast, developed countries tend to take education for granted, and young people see that education is not really that necessary to become rich, powerful and famous, and the most glamorized people in the society tend to be either some kind of entertainer, sports or pop star, or rich entrepreneurs.
I knew lots of kids who wanted to be teachers. Ask a kid that age to list their favorite people and their teacher will pop up often, because it’s someone they know. Teaching is something tangible to them.
I also knew several adults who wanted to be a teacher, but quit shortly after starting because they literally couldn’t afford it due to unreasonably low wages. We should really treat good teachers better.
I wonder if kids pick that because its one job that they understand and attribute positively (to some degree - “a teacher is someone that teaches kids like me at a school and we have fun”) whereas jobs that their parents have are more nebulous and more negative in their mind (“my parents leave for the day and then come back angry? I don’t want to do that”).
I’m assuming that as well, but it’s still surprising to me.
That was exactly my conclusion as well. At first I was surprised that kids would want to be teachers (having known a few - it’s not a great job! Terrible pay, not much respect… you’ve got to love it). But then I suddenly realised - what jobs would kids know about? All of them would know a teacher…
See? UK is a 90% version of USA.
