I’m depressed and I wanna listen to music… 🥲
Its just fearmongering right?
I don’t max the volume, just turn it high enough to hear it, if I used speakers, I’d also turn it so that my ears detect the “same volume” so I don’t get why headphones is worse? Literally the same volume.
Also privacy, I don’t want others to know what I’m listening, the fuck lol.
If you have to use headphones, use soundcancelling like AirPods Pro or whatever else that has noise-canxelling and set your phone to use headphone safety where it reduces the maximum volume to as much as it can
Been doing it for almost 30 years. I still have better and more precise hearing than most.
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Most people in the “headphones bad”-crowd fail to understand that it’s the volume and not the medium at fault. I’ve always been very afraid of permanent damage to my senses, ears and eyes in particular, so as much as I love head banging to loud music, I ensure it’s not too loud. I’m the kind of person who brings earplugs to a concert (the type that dampens the audio without distorting it). I rarely need them, but I keep them with me just in case.
Just be aware that the music volume and the volume of noise in your environment are supplementary.
That means that if you raise the volume of your headphones to hear over your environment you risk damage.
Noise cancelling headphones help with this.
I haven’t read any research on whether active nouse cancellation contributes to this, since active NC is producing more noise in the audible range that you can’t perceive.
I do use active NC on planes and don’t feel pain in my ears, but I am wary of it and only use it on planes for now.
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if something really is as bad as someone says then why does everyone do it?
Remember when everyone smoked and we were taught that it was good for our health?
The harm in OP’s example is immediate.
I was under the impression that hearing loss is usually a gradual thing.
That’s absolutely insane logic. “Everyone’s doing it, it must be fine, right?” You know how many incredibly cancerous and harmful materials were once in common use by everyone?
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you’re right now that I think about it doesn’t make sense to say that, consult experts is better advice
consult experts is better advice
Boom! Take THAT, anti-vaxxers!
Bad logic, yes, but it stands in this case because the harm is immediate, not in some future decade. Given such widespread use, headphones must be OK or doctors would have been sounding the alarm decades ago after seeing young people with blown out ears.
Depends entirely on the volume and time spent at that volume.
Just using headphones in general? No.
Tinnitus? Yes, if you listen to very loud music a lot
for years and years. Deaf? No.Trust me, you can get tinnitus from listening to very loud music just the once. I’ve had it since I stood next to a speaker during a concert. Why the speaker was so low down is beyond me. Wasn’t able to hear anything for a couple of hours and I’ve been hearing gas boiler noises ever since.
People made fun of me for using foam ear plugs at a concert, and the occasional gun range idiot who throw various insults my way. Then I shoot my 7.5 inch ar and they either leave or get their own ear pro. Fucking chuds also I’m sorry you gotta deal with it. I’ve had a few episodes of it, but it’s nice not having it be a constant struggle. So I’m sorry you gotta deal with that. I also had a handful of “exploding head syndrome” moments and I honestly didn’t know which is worse.
Oooh, they’re fun (not), especially when they happen in the middle of the night.
They seem to only happen when I’m right on the cusp of sleep!
Sennheiser and other hifi companies make earplugs specially for concerts and for musicians themselves. You get quality sound, but quieter.
On one hand, it’s funny that the issue of overly loud concerts exists in the first place and needs correction. On the other, hearing Amon Tobin at 5000 watt levels leads to a sudden realization that his music isn’t chill downtempo idm.
Sennheiser and audio technica are my two favorite audio companies. Thanks for letting me know!
Also didn’t know about Brazilian homie, but his name kinda reminded me of the guitarist from animal as leaders.
Tobin released stuff on the Ninja Tune label, which mostly specialized back then in instrumental hiphop, future jazz and such fun and chill musics: like Wagon Christ, Funki Porcini, etc. So his early tunes like ‘Verbal’ fit the theme nicely, but then he did things like this, which sound straight up scary in person.
I have you tagged from an older post and remember your mom saying some whack ass shit in another post you made. Headphones won’t make you deaf unless you’re absolutely blasting your music at full volume.
I hope you’re feeling better soon and not letting her shit get you down. You got this.
Your reply made me wonder: perhaps this is about more than the headphones? I’m not saying this justified her statement, but perhaps his mother feels like she isn’t being heard?
Yeah it’s possible, but what I remember from the other post is about her calling him a loser or useless or something along those lines, so I think she’s just very controlling.
Oh for sure! My theory is because of that, she’ll go overboard immediately on any little thing she doesn’t feel in control of, more or less.
The issue is probably more that you don’t hear her when you are focused.
My husband is like that. Especially if he’s listening to something with headphones.
It’s not the volume (he’s not got them loud) it’s that he’s locked in. I’m the same way, except if you say my name and pause a beat, I snap out quicker.
I have to say his a couple times. Just starting to talk without a cue and the focus makes us miss the beginning, if not all.
Also happens with reading, programming, writing Which are immersive. quiet activities
Some people are just like that, regardless of headphones. My fiance gets like that to the point I have to nudge her to get her attention.
Yeah, for sure. My husband and I are both like this. Waving my arm often works for getting his attention.
But a frustrated parent could definitely blame it on headphones or think the kid is going deaf. Especially if they are not the kind of person that immerses like that.
Unless the parent can hear the headphone music themselves from a few feet away. In which case, they have a point that it might be too loud.
Fear mongering. Definitely.
Sounds like what someone says who wants to know and control what you’re listening to
Bruh they really have no right to judge. They watch short-form videos on WeChat in the livingroom on loudspeakers. Weird skits with overdramatized acting. WTF are they even watching. Its like tik-tok but more boomer and cringy.
I used to mow lawns growing up. Would listen to headphones to drown out the mower. 30 years later I essentially hear this 24/7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D96_1AsUajA My wife (and everyone else who knows me) knows my general hearing is bad, but not horribly so, and much worse in noisy situations. There are times when I don’t hear that tone as much, but it’s there every morning when I wake up and it’s quiet.
Also, at max volume, I had to hold the phone speaker on my ear to make sure that video was even making a noise.
Frequencies above 6k-7k have disappeared/are always there.
Do yourself a favor and take advantage of noise-canceling headphones so you can keep the volume down.
I often take long walks through a busy city, and in-ear headphones are a godsend. With on-ear ones, I have to turn the podcasts off at high-traffic crosswalks around here, for fear of blowing out what’s remaining of my aging ears.
Using headphones is more polite since you’re not forcing it upon others.
My Helicopter Mother’s PoV when I have headphones on to drown out the living-room arguments.
(It’s noise-cancelling, I don’t blast it at max volume lol)
A helicopter emits sound in the 85 (max 40 hours a week) to 110 (WILL cause damage, even in bursts of 15 minutes or less) dB.
So a helicopter mother’s yelling is likely more damaging to your ears than the headphones if it is prolonged ;)
No, actually my mother flies around in circles in a F15 and fires warning rockets at me all the time…
…wait what did you say again? Sorry the missile explosions are too loud can’t hear you!
Headphones vs speakers is way less significant than listening volume. The big thing to be careful of is listening with just one earbud in. When we do this we almost always end up turning the volume in that one too high, because you need on average 6db more volume to compensate for the audio input of the other ear.
Complete fear mongering. If you listen to any sound too loud from any source you can get hearing damage, but there’s no reason you need to listen to music too loud with headphones. To the contrary since headphones help block outside sounds (especially with modern noise cancelling headphones,) you can actually turn the music down and hear it just fine.
