• SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    It became inevitable that the files would release

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    Trump calls an emergency, no phones, meeting with Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, Bondi is the one who will be releasing the files

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    Trump does a 180° on trying to block the release

    They for sure fucked with the files

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    Cool. This would have been useful years ago, now? It’s just going to be worthless untrustable noise.

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    Narrator: And yet in spite of it all, those file never were released so the far right pedo class could be protected

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      The latest traunch of emails has already clipped the wings of Larry Summers, Michael Wolff, Peggy Siegal, and Kathryn Ruemmler. I don’t think its a coincidence that Prince Andrew was getting the heave-ho weeks in advance.

      The Epstein Files are leaking like a sieve. By the time we get a full accounting, I’m curious to know what’ll even be left to reveal.

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      They release all the files, except those that concern “national security”.

      Guess what people at the FBI did over the last months? Classify Epstein files…

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      I think the LA times wrote a piece about this in the past day or two, the doctoring was done when Trump took office and had the Justice Department redact all references to him “as a private citizen” which is some bullshit. But look at what’s already come through, thousands of pages with hundreds of references to Trump, unredacted and incriminating, I wonder if the idiots he hired to scour through the files actually did it, or just cashed their checks and ran like the rest of Elon’s DOGE bullshit.

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            If only it were that easy. A conversation with one of them would go something more like this:

            “It’s not Trump.”

            “Okay, prove it!”

            “I don’t need to because THIS IS AMERICA, and it’s INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.”

            “Like the people arrested by ICE?”

            “THEY WERE CRIMINALS!”

            “Even the 93% without criminal records?”

            “THAT’S FAKE NEWS, LIBTARD”

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      The thing is, enough people have seen the files, including Biden era prosecutors, Trump 1 prosecutors, victims, former and current FBI, etc. who can testify to the fact that evidence has been altered.

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        Yeah I know, but the problem as we’ve seen is: Nobody holds the Trump administration to account. Congress might vote to release the files but I have zero faith in them to also hold him to account if he should be found in them.

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      The list:

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    I highly recommend Heather Cox Richardson’s near-daily coverage of current politics, and The Files.

    From a historian’s perspective, she seems to think that Trump’s sudden reversal after fighting tooth and nail to avoid this release is because he realizes he’s lost control of the House republicans on this issue as their voters are also frothing at the mouth to get these files released. And, that if he’s so afraid of what’s in the FBI’s complete set after the horror of what has already been released, what the hell is actually in there? She also seems to think that if the bill gets to his desk, he’ll all but have to release them, but personally I don’t see him ever caving to that. He could release them by executive order today if he actually wanted the files released.

    Here’s my take: I find it pretty incredible that people don’t seem to understand the depths of Trumps depravity when he extorted our allies, sicked a hillbilly mob on the capital, used The Office of the President to hawk merch, and openly mocked American democracy, but grooming underage girls is where we all collectively draw the line. The mountains of evidence of his extreme criminality, his appointment of white and Christian nationalists, and his alliances with America’s sworn enemies melting down our government? Water off a duck’s back apparently.

    I’m all for whatever it takes to dismantle the Trump regime, but I seriously doubt undoctored evidence ever sees the light of day. And if it does, he will be dead long before he ever sees justice for it. But, if it FINALLY sours voters enough to not vote for him in the next election, I’ll take it.

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      but grooming underage girls is where we all collectively draw the line.

      No doubt all the other things you mentioned would make any rational, remotely ethical person turn against Trump. But this is worse than all of them. It’s almost impossible to defend or wish away. Virtually EVERYONE agrees these crimes are heinous and deserve thorough prosecution.

      he will be dead long before he ever sees justice for it.

      As much as I would like to see that, the ship sailed when we reelected him. If Harris had won, his other trials would’ve continued. He was obviously guilty in the documents case. Now he’ll probably die in office or shortly after leaving.

      At this point, I’ll settle for him resigning (impossible, I know) or being impeached.

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      From a historian’s perspective, she seems to think that Trump’s sudden reversal after fighting tooth and nail to avoid this release is because he realizes he’s lost control of the House republicans on this issue as their voters are also frothing at the mouth to get these files released. And, that if he’s so afraid of what’s in the FBI’s complete set after the horror of what has already been released, what the hell is actually in there? She also seems to think that if the bill gets to his desk, he’ll all but have to release them, but personally I don’t see him ever caving to that. He could release them by executive order today if he actually wanted the files released.

      Man, that’s a whole lot of words for “they’re going to heavily edit the files to only show Democratic party member names and use them as a political weapon.”

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        While I don’t doubt that, one of the things that Richardson’s coverage does is ground my heavy pessimism: Despite Trump’s corruption, his fascist network still must operate within the bounds of the American government and voting public’s opinion, just like the early Nazi party and other elected fascist movements.

        The trove of evidence is hopefully still protected by standards of federal record keeping that can reveal tampering and based on what has already been released, the regime’s ability to control that evidence seems lacking. They will no doubt play up the parts that look bad for the opposition, but if there’s a big photo of Donald J. Trump blowing Bill Fucking Clinton with the travel and financial records to put them in the same place for a weekend, how are they gonna redact that?

        And from all accounts, it’s sounding like whatever is in there is Chernobyl level heat.

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          his fascist network still must operate within the bounds of the American government and voting public’s opinion, just like the early Nazi party and other elected fascist movements.

          It didn’t stop the Nazis. He’s to a different outcome this time.

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    Other news we’re following:

    • Trump dismisses 2018 killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi: The U.S. president gave a warm welcome to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salmanof Saudi Arabia, his first visit since the Washington Post reporter was killed by Saudi agents. When the crown prince was asked about Khashoggi, Trump interjected, saying, “Things happen.”

    Jesus fucking Chr- *deep breath*

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      The latest batch of released files has included some of the laziest and most haphazard redactions I’ve seen since Bush was on his way out in '08. These Congresscritters aren’t wasting staff time on cleaning up their info-dumps. It’s all just going out the door every Friday.

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    The only no vote came from Rep. Clay Higgins, a Louisiana Republican who is a fervent supporter of Trump. He also chairs a subcommittee that initiated a subpoena on the Justice Department for the Epstein files.

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      Ok that means Trump told the rest to vote for it. The files are altered or deleted. Let’s ask comey. I bet he knows.

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      He also chairs a subcommittee

      One of the big things we need fixed is that shit just being based on seniority.

      When the person from the controlling party with the longest time on that specific committee is defacto chair, people will never relinquish a committee seat. They’ll hold one they don’t actually care about for decades blocking others because some day they might get chair and get bonus “donations” from whatever industry you’re supposed to reign in.

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      But Trump said he wanted them released! (Presumably because they’ve been scrubbed of everyone except Democrats) Why is he going against Dear Leader?

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    Now that they’ve been scrubbed- we get to watch Captain Diapers smugly tell us that he told us so.

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    He is not going to sign this, lol.

    If we know anything about Trump by this point, is that he’ll say things and do the opposite. He’s not signing this, guys.

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      I’m feeling more and more that they will release something that scrubs any damage to the GOP, and certainly zero chance they release anything that damages Trump. If there is a fix in - scrubbed names or false “complete” files - that would explain why GOP now feels they can vote for it, and why Trump gave them permission by flip-flopping to support the release.

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      After these votes the pressure is on him in a way he has yet experienced. I don’t know if I can think of another issue in which almost all Republican legislators opposed him.

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        My guy, how blind are you? If the Republicans all voted to release it then they are in on the cover up. They were told to vote yes because they won’t release anything incriminating. There’s no fucking opposition.

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          Don’t be a dumbass and pay attention to the news. They flipped because they could no longer stop it with Grijalva finally seated. Trump begged Boebert to vote against and she didn’t. All part of the plan?

          There’s nothing Trump can do. His veto would be overridden. He either does nothing and in 10 days it goes through or he acts like he never cared in the first place, no matter how ridiculous that is.

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        Maybe but he will brand any Republican who is against him as, ironically, a traitor.

        Because that’s who he wants on his team, people loyal to him, regardless of affiliation. But Republicans are easier to dupe so they mostly fell in line.

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          They almost unanimously voted to release the files. Unanimous votes in the House are not frequent. On this issue at least, he doesn’t have any loyalists in Congress.