Both deserve some Piazzale Loreto’ing
This scenario is quite the best outcome. Two narcissists fighting each other, hopong for a homicide/suicide ❤️
It’s already happening…
Musk was the bank that got MAGA elected in places they’d pissed off voters too much to keep winning.
If musk and trump split, the Republicans in the house and Senate need both musks money and Trump’s cult. They can’t win with either alone.
They’re already past the point of no return, their egos are too big to make up.
The knights Templar were the bank that kept the French crown in power, the crown was indebted to the monastic order. As that wasn’t ideal, went to the pope and had them excommunicated and rounded up on Friday the 13th.
One of these men will go.
I don’t understand. This was quite possibly the most predictable thing that could have happened. Trump has a 40 year history of stiffing creditors and vendors. There has never been anything transactional about him, he just does this same thing over and over. Like there’s a reason that people have been saying, “a Trump never pays his debts” since like 2015.
Trump has probably made enough money off illegal crypto bribes that he can afford to dump musk.
Yeah but he’s not gonna spend his own money.
their egos are too big to make up
That’s where you’re wrong. They both constantly rewrite the past in their own memories. Shit one takes massive doses of disassociatves and the other can’t be bothered to digest a single thought. They can make up and act like nothing ever happened and they’re both the greatest. To hold a grudge you need to be able to hold a coherent opinion on anything and not exist in a perpetual stream of consciousness.
Reasonable thinking, expecially when we talk about the two actual main persons in the country and all the people and responsibilities around them.
Narcissists surround themselves of yes people, let’s see if those guys has cleared the area properly.
While both are wildly irrational and one is downright mentally incompetent, if they have one thing in common it’s holding on to grudges.
Oh I’m not saying that they don’t engage in extreme attacks on who they consider their enemies. But Trump rapidly flips on who his enemy and who his friend is based on the situation. He’s had that relationship with most of the GOP. Without the staff I honestly don’t think he’d be able to keep it together. Sometimes he shifts based straight up on who he’s in the room with and how they’re treating him at that exact moment. What I’m trying to say is there’s no actual calculation or payback in his mind. It’s entirely binary and subject to rapid shifts. Classic black and white thinking/cluster b splitting.
Or they need to abolish free elections before the midterms, arrest noncompliant judges and just have the Trump dynasty rule by decree.
He couldn’t swing that with the backing of twitter/Facebook
Like, obviously him trying it is a big concern, but he wouldn’t be able to pull it off. I’d be surprised if he could even hold onto DC after suspendng elections.
We’d almost certainly see elected Dems immediately relocate to somewhere like Cali, and when push comes to shove, the military would be a 50/50 split at best. Like, trump can put sycophants in top military leadership positions, but that’s not enough.
That’s the entire point of a chain of command. 10 different chances for someone to grow a spine and tell them to fuck off. All the way down to the guy holding the gun.
He’s be more likely to try and use red state national guards, he’s still have to filter, and ship them across the country so they’re not acting against their own neighbors
The logistics would be a nightmare even for a competent leader. This admin can not handle something so complicated. It would be a failure, but likely a bloody one.
You have high expectations. From what I have seen of the system lately they’d just allow it and nothing would happen. Maybe some protests but nothing big as that would be to inconvenient for people.
You have high expectations
I have reason to, and not that you should just blindly believe me, but I’ve got a pretty good track record on predicting how shit shakes out.
Cancelling elections is a big line, and he just can’t count on the military.
Hell, Vance would almost certainly work against him.
There’s a long line of people who want to fill Trump’s void in 2028, and they won’t be happy if trump refuses to step down.
Like, it wouldn’t be a great thing to live thru. A lot of damage will be done and people will die. But trump just doesn’t have the juice for it without Musk’s money and willingness to spend.
Even other billionaires won’t light money on fire for trump like musk did.
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Oh I bet he’ll pay in some way to have trump challenged for being mentally unfit, I think that’s part of the constitution
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So what you’re saying is we need to revive the push for President Schwarzenegger
“Get in the (Air Force Two) Choppa!”
Nah, we are still stuck with whoever wins.
I kept seeing people saying that this is all performative and that they’re both in on it, but idk, I was raised by narcissists and this is basically the exact same fight playing out on the global stage that played out weekly in my childhood living room.
Yep, same, exactly.
This is way, way too in depth to be an elaborately staged, intetional hyperreality performance.
These two just actually are this stupid, this self-centered, this insecure and ego driven.
If this is some kind of an act, it would require both of them to have been method acting at Daniel Day Lewis levels for about a decade with no breaks.
Its ‘performative’ in the sense of intentionally being catty, shit-disturbing, dramatic, old men acting like the cast of the Mean Girls… but it is not performative in the sense of ‘entirely staged to fool us dumb rubes.’
That being said, this all still does function as a grand distraction to any other person or kind of nefarious nonsense… but no, these two are having the messiest, most high stakes, most public breakup in probably the history of the world right now, and they are both totally genuine.
… It is also arguably the funniest way concievable for the American Empire / Era to end.
How in the fuck do you write a history book about this in 20 years?
… I don’t fucking know, but I do know I want Larry David to write a script for a ‘The Death of Stalin’ style movie about the last 9 months.
EDIT: Wait! Mel Brooks is still alive somefucking how, get in him in the writing room too!
EDIT: Wait! Mel Brooks is still alive somefucking how, get in him in the writing room too!
I think this might be lethal levels of irony even for him.
Neither one of them is able to pretend at this level. It is a real fight.
Even if it was pretend to start with they’re both so sensitive and need to be right, it’ll turn into a real fight soon enough. But I agree, neither is clever enough to pretend this. For that you need professional wrestling level acting skills.
This is exactly like wrestling they have made Elon the heel. If contracts start being canceled maybe it’s real. Unless some unknown company gets the contract like space y.
Anybody have any idea what they’re trying to hide with this puppet show? Is the big bill getting too much attention or is it something else?
I think you’re giving them too much credit. I’m pretty sure this really is just a senile old man feuding with a ketamine addict.
It can and likely is both.
I don’t really see how. Trump could be playing it up a little to distract from the Medicare cuts, but I imagine he’s genuinely pissed about the Epstien thing. That probably played really badly with his base. There’s also no way Musk is doing this as a distraction; Telsa’s stock is imploding because of this.
I think its a senile russian asset fighting a ketamine addict and both of their handlers are simply making good use of the natural distraction.
While I don’t necessarily want to believe there’s anything decent in any of his supporters, I also really don’t feel like he’d lose a single one being a proven pedophile. They’re all in.
I highly doubt it’s anything. They’re selfish egotistical people out for their own gains. Elon never cared for Trump or the Republicans, just about what made him the most money. Now he’s buthurt and lashing out.
Imagine a timeline where Biden invited Elon to the electric car summit or whatever it was called. I imagine flipping to the Republicans was a response to being but hurt about that.
There was news today that the Senate is considering cutting Medicare in addition to Medicaid, as well as news of major changes to how science funding is sent out to researchers. Also the travel bans for foreign nationals from certain countries.
If anyone could make a conviction happen, it’s Musk. He need only threaten to fund primary challengers for 10 Republicans in the house and ~15 senators.
He’s got the money to do it.
I wonder what all the conservative virtue signallers are going to do with their fully-loaded foundation edition cyberbeast cybertrucks now?
This is like hearing the school saying the two biggest bullies are going to fight in the yard after school
Everyone knows that one of them can’t hit any thing harder than a pillow and the other always chickens out against any opponent unless the person they’ll punch is held down by four guys.
The entire school knows that this shit show is a circus that will just be full of drama and no fighting … but we’re all going to head out onto the yard anyway to laugh at how stupid these idiots are going perform.
I’ll see you all on the yard after the last bell at 3pm
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Which means I doubt there’s going to be a bunch of Republicans suddenly jumping to Team Musk.
GOP grifters avoiding the biggest pile of money to grift, and you’re confident grifters will actively avoid it? I’m not so sure. I’m betting a number of opportunistic GOP will sign up on the Musk train if it means getting a paycheck/personal superpac donation.
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I feel like if he wanted to he could out right buy half the GOP congress people though. Money holds a lot of political power when the politicians are for sale.
He could buy all of them, politicians are particularly cheap. $10K each could buy the entire Congress. That’s nothing to Musk.
Half it’s been proven buying a politician is not expensive at all. He could buy everyone.
I bet Thiel wants it too. Get his personalityless puppet into power quicker.
I don’t know. He’s got tons of money and politicians are like flies to shit with money.
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He already announced he’s done donating to the gop after he burned all that money in wisconsins Supreme Court race.
Because he’s a man known for never going back on his word before…
His money is tied up in his companies, which are crashing. Tesla stock is dropping steadily, and the only reason it was making any money at all was because of EV credits, which go away in the Big Beautiful Bill. That’s why he hates it so much. It dooms Tesla, which will be bankrupt within two years.
Now he’s threatening to decommission the only American spacecraft that goes to the Space Station. That gives the government the excuse to cancel all contracts for Space X, or even confiscate it.
Kill Tesla and nationalize Space X, and he’s got nothing left.
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In what world is the president going to illegally use the military to kill a billionaire?
They have the CIA for that.
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He has the KGB for that as well!
The KGB has Trump. Maybe has Musk too.
Now might be a good time for Putin to off both of them. Maximum chaos effect.
Lmao, two idiots fighting. This seemed kind of inevitable, they’re not compatible personality types to work with each other.
Elon definitely thinks he has more influence with trump’s crowd than he actually has, but I also think his position at twitter makes him dangerous to trump by undermining his ability to reach a lot of people who haven’t fully crawled down the maga conspiracy pipeline.
I don’t think he’s going to be able to shift much support to Vance ether. Vance and his ilk are just to weird for most trump supporters.
We live in stupid times… where oligarchs fight each other on twitter
Is stinky out of Special K again?
Why am I rooting for Elon Musk in 2025?
Because it’s easy to manipulate the general public with these planned out and scheduled spectacles specifically developed to provide cover for all the truly terrible stuff that’s being done just slightly behind the curtains while also giving both sides convenient cover from the other’s failures.
Because he spent the last 4 months balls deep in everything relating to the government and probably has access to all the information he could ever want to take him down. I fucking hate the guy, but it’s one of those “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” kinda situation.
No, he was just gathering it to hand over to Palantir. Once again, Peter Thiel, the real CEO of paypal is the shadowy puppeteer.
The enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy. But they can still be useful.
You shouldn’t be. When in history has rich people infighting worked out for poor people?
I guess it’s great that they’re seemingly not working together, but I find it hard to get excited.
“When the elephants fight, the grass is crushed. When the elephants make love, the grass is crushed.”
And leave JD Vance in charge?! Are you mad?! Can we just nuke the line of succession?
The silver lining to the shit show of the last 9 months is that the Republican drama has finally gotten entertaining.
Imagine thinking his voice matters more than Thiel’s voice.
