President Donald Trump announced Wednesday that he’s withdrawing the National Guard from Chicago, Los Angeles and Portland but left the door open to sending federal forces “in a much different and stronger form.”

His announcement comes after the US Supreme Court last week rejected his request to allow him to deploy the guard to Chicago to protect ICE agents as part of the administration’s ongoing immigration crackdown.

“We are removing the National Guard from Chicago, Los Angeles, and Portland, despite the fact that CRIME has been greatly reduced by having these great Patriots in those cities, and ONLY by that fact,” Trump wrote on Truth Social, arguing that those cities would be “gone if it weren’t for the Federal Government stepping in.”

  • fodor@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    Oh right. Yeah like it’s his active choice as if the judges didn’t tell him he needed to screw off. It’s sad to see a grown man who keeps declaring victory after he openly failed in public for everyone to see, and then to repeat that every week of his adult life.

  • Tanis Nikana@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I never saw the national guard here at all. Did we have like two national guardsmen and they just sat at the Lucky Lab, drinking and playing board games?

  • WamGams@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    This goes with what I predicted: Trump does not want to be a civil war president. He realized he can not consolidate power in this way.

    This is a success for America, but the battle continues.

    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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      3 months ago

      If you think he needs to pull back the national guard to handle an invasion, you seriously underestimate how grotesquely oversized the US military is.

        • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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          3 months ago

          Wait, are you… Are you actually serious right now?

          You think that an article saying the US military missed its yearly recruitment goal by 25% is proof that they need to recall the National Guard from Chicago in order to have the capacity to invade Venezuela?

          Did you spend more than 10 seconds looking at the numbers before posting this nonsense?

          They fell short of their yearly recruitment target by about 12,000 personnel. Between active duty and reserve forces, the total size of the US military is over 2 million. And there is absolutely no scenario where you would ever use a national guard unit in the initial wave of an invasion. (correcting myself on this point; the US did draw up National Guard units as part of the Iraq invasion, though as best I can tell their role was almost entirely restricted to support, logistics, and rear line security, not frontline combat. Still, those are essential components of any successful military operation and I’m sure they made significant contributions there.).

          The US Marine Corps, on its own, is ~170k personnel. The entire Venezuelan military, across all branches, is estimated at around 337k personnel.

          But no, please, do explain how the 800 national guard troops deployed to DC are absolutely vital to the success of a potential invasion.

          • LeftistLawyer@lemmy.today
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            3 months ago

            Sure. Bare numbers explain nothing. US troops are already committed to over 750 military bases and ships at sea in over 80 countries. Pull them out of those places and see what happens. Tension in the middle east, pull them out to go to Venezuela, what happens? Tension in Taiwan, pull them out and an invite Chinese aggression … etc. etc. etc. Why, if you are old enough to remember, did the US rely so heavily on Reserve and National Guard troops during the Iraq war?

            Now, Venezuela is not Iraq where you can just steam roll tanks across the desert. It’s Viet Nam. How many were killed on the ground when Russia decided to just go blundering into Ukraine? It’s a lot easier to defend than attack. Masses of US soldiers would die in any protracted ground assault on Venezuela b/c as soon as it gets hot, Russia and China are shadow arming them to the teeth just like we’re doing in Ukraine.

            Every man is valuable when if it goes boots on the ground. Are you beginning to get it now?

            • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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              3 months ago

              You know what, I wrote a reply here, but I’m replacing it with this because there’s just no point. You’re still trying to argue that a potential invasion executed by a military with over 2,000,000 active and reserve personnel would so badly need a couple of thousand extra bodies that that alone would force Trump to put an end to his dictatorial cock waving in Democrat voting cities.

              There’s a lot more I could go into here, but if you’re not already looking at the scale difference in those numbers and reflexively laughing at the ridiculousness of your own argument, nothing I or anyone else says is going to make a difference. You’re too far up your own arse to waste the breath on.

              • LeftistLawyer@lemmy.today
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                3 months ago

                I’m not the one who argued with me in the first place – you were. Now, who is up whose arse?

                And, why did all those reservists and NGs serve in Iraq (for fucking years beyond the normal terms), again? I mean, we have more numbers??? And, why did we get our asses handed to us in Viet Nam by a much smaller force with inferior weapons?

                Just admit it dude … you got flanked and this is the best you can do to save face 😆

                ps … maybe you’ll think twice next time before shooting your mouth off arguing with someone who argues for a living.

          • LeftistLawyer@lemmy.today
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            3 months ago

            And I’ll add: I wonder, are you going to sign up? Know anybody who would? You gotta be seriously stupid to go to war for Trump.

      • frongt@lemmy.zip
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        3 months ago

        It’s sized to fight two peer or near-peer adversaries at the same time, winning on one front and at least holding the other.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    “We are removing the National Guard from Chicago, Los Angeles, and Portland, despite the fact that CRIME has been greatly reduced by having these great Patriots in those cities, and ONLY by that fact,”

    A) They were never deployed in the first place and 2) They weren’t allowed to do law enforcement at all.

    • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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      3 months ago

      But he marched them up to the top of the hill, and he marched them down again.

      What a petty tinpot despot.

  • myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    This is not the distraction from the Epstein files he thinks it is.

    Also, he needs them to go to war with Venezuela and Iran.