So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?

  • SippyCup@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    Do to the US what the US has been doing for 150 years.

    Invest heavily in local anti government revolutionist organizations and support their efforts covertly. You know, like Russia and China have already been doing for 30 years.

  • SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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    Realistically, global trade drying up. Canada, Mexico, the EU, and others just refusing to do business with the US. Or possibly, making deals on a state-by-state basis, such as exchanging with California and New York, while ignoring Texas. By doing something like that, foreign nations can help prop up anti-conservative states, while bleeding conservatives lily white.

    Mutual military agreements, such as retooling NATO to exclude the US and incorporating Canada, Mexico, and Taiwan might happen as well. The US has ceded their mutual exchange with Taiwan, other powers like India would like to have those chips. Maybe the EU outright allying with Ukraine, to remove Russia from play and to secure Ukraine’s grain, oil, and expertise on warfare.

    …In short, it will be a couple decades of work to stop the Turdpublican agenda through diplomatic pressure. Probably around a decade if WW3 or a 2nd American Civil War happens.

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    Time. A regime as dysfunctional as this can’t go on indefinitely… Like, it is physically impossible for it to think far enough ahead for it to be resilient enough to last. Unfortunately, a lot of good people will suffer before then.

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    I think losing an aircraft carrier would give the US serious pause. Outside that, no idea. Maybe we finally pull the trigger and nuke someone, and that scares the rest of the world enough to start actively sanctioning us. Maybe not, though.

    It does seem like most of Europe, Canada, and East Asia are happy to be in the pocket of US financial interests. Even folks who don’t like Trump haven’t bothered to break away from JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs.

    Nobody wants to risk fucking with the money of the global hegemon. And so long as the US is the wealthiest nation on Earth, what’s going to deter them?

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    Don’t forget that we’ve done much worse. Obama straight up assassinated Bin Laden in a foreign country.

    But I mean honestly, we’d have to lose a significant amount of military power and if any substantial alliance ever formed against us, we’re looking at mutually assured destruction.

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    Sanctioning & putting an embargo on US & meanwhile bleeding them dry by going after American big-tech.

    Nuclear proliferation will also help

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    To stop this immediate idiocy, Trump has to have a massive stroke, just enough to debilitate him but necessarily replace him. MAGA isn’t going to blindly follow Vance cause he’s got zero MAGA charisma. The GOP controlled Congress is going to be stuck between implementing 25A or not, cause if they remove Trump they’re committing political suicide.

    So the best bet is for a lame duck government as a whole.

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    STOP REPRODUCING

    There’s a reason that leadershit is absolutely pissing their pants about declining fertility rates.

    The funny thing is that they’ll try to shame us, bribe us, or even force us (e.g. via attacks on abortion rights and contraceptives). But they refuse to meaningfully address the underlying reasons why people are increasingly saying “no thanks, I’m good” regarding becoming parents.

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    Nuclear disarmament. Hasanabi Doctrine.

    Arm the nations you want to be able to defend themselves, and disarm the ones you don’t.

    The US will fall as soon as its nukes are removed or destroyed. Hopefully peacefully.

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    It’s nowhere close to that level. The GOP/ MAGA has been eroding international trust in America for a while now, but realistically, everybody else is on the outside looking in, and even if America removed all women’s rights, including the right to vote, or annexed Panama, all that would happen would be strongly worded protests and further political isolation of America from the rest of the world.

    Nobody wants to fight a war against the USA, and barring something cataclysmic like an invasion of Mexico, nobody wants to sanction the largest market in the world.

    TL;DR: America would have to become much poorer or much weaker before anybody does anything.