• goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 months ago

      Say what you will about participation awards, but at least their recipients actually participated in the activity in question. I don’t know what this is.

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          2 months ago

          Exactly. The prize itself is a joke even before this colossal self-own.

      • mrmacduggan@lemmy.ml
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        I theorize he is trying to get into heaven (???) and he might believe that the only thing that could cancel out all his sins is to become the Nobel Peace Prize winner (???) through violence (???)

        None of this makes any sense if you don’t have severe dementia.

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          I don’t think it’s dementia that did that, I think it’s a very specific type of psychological abuse that results in thinking that way. I suspect it’s from his father encouraging him to be a bully, placing high expectations, and not caring enough to watch him actually earn awards, just checking that he has them. This is all in line with the childhood his niece described in her book Too Much and Never Enough.

          A childhood like that could easily shape one’s understanding of achievement away from “doing the thing” to “having the rewards/symbol of having done the thing”. And if someone thinks having the trophy is more important than having won the competition I don’t see any reason they would feel the divine would think any differently. And I think even pre dementia he’d slowly drift from “I have the 2025 Nobel peace prize” to “I won the 2025 Nobel peace prize” slowly reshaping his memories until he doesn’t remember how he got it.

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        LOL for what though? He’s not gonna make her President of Vzla.

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          He could. There are bribes for everything in this administration. You got pardon bribes, position of power bribes, keep quiet bribes, etc, etc.

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            He didn’t do regime change. He took out Maduro but not the regime, he said he wasn’t going to install her cause she is not popular with the people in Vzla. She’s just kissing his ass. In a most pathetic way.

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    2 months ago

    I thought right-wingers hated participation trophies for all kids, even the dregs. Hypocrite.

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    2 months ago

    can it be revoked?

    eta: I did the google and apparently it can’t be revoked, but I’m sure history will award it an asterisk.

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      It’s not his. He’s just proud to be holding onto someone else’s award. Which is somehow the most pathetic thing I think I’ve ever heard. It’s like being a cuck for the actual holder.

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      It can’t be revoked or transferred, he just has the physical token. He’s an idiot.

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      I thought Aung San Suu Kyi’s was revoked given her later support for genocide, but I was mistaken.

      Machado’s not the first idiot to get the prize.

      Everyone knows Trump is childish and was desperate for a Nobel prize, but im really shocked that she game him hers.

      Like the Irony of her awarding it to him after invading her country. Basically, she’s sold out democracy.

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    plz. where is the shadow cabal of some other government to stop this shit. plz. it’s morons in charge rn there’s a huge blind spot open. plz take it.

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      I feel like her sacrificial decision to give him this (ultimately meaningless) symbolic token in exchange for the potential of peace for her country is showing why she deserved the Peace Prize in the first place. If handing it over makes Trump chill the hell out about working with Venezuela’s succession, it will have been worth it.

      (This situation is obviously batshit insane and it’s pathetic that he’s extorting her, but at least she’s trying to use all her resources available to manipulate this mad king and sue for peace - if this Nobel Prize was driving his hatred, it’s best to sacrifice it I guess. Especially since the actual honor is non-transferrable LMAO)

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      The Kissinger one didn’t do it, the Deporter in Chief with a War on Whistleblowers who started 5 wars and has a 90% civilian death rate among his drone strikes didn’t do it, but this is where you draw the line?

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    I’m sure this was a difficult choice.

    It’s basically this, and hope that it buys enough goodwill with Trump to let you take over the government there, or you keep it and let the US operate the government as a puppet state.

    Ultimately, if this pays off, the medal is a pretty cheap price to pay all things considered

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      The medal doesn’t even mean anything. It’s like buying a purple heart at an auction; doesn’t make you a veteran. Of course, Trump would never understand that.

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      Be a puppet state either way, she just wants to signal that she’d be an enthusiastic puppet.

      Her entire legitimacy at this point consists of being recognized by Western organizations and now grovelling to a hostile foreign power. She’d be the worst type of puppet.

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        I’m not so sure

        Assuming she is appointed as the leader of the country, she can use that position to save people from callous deaths that would otherwise happen with a full US occupation.

        It’s a harm reduction measure, rather than a path to victory

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        The venezuelan military is the de facto ruler since they made that deal to give up maduro and stand down.

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          Not so sure about that - a whole bunch of Vzlan military were killed in the kidnapping and bombing (US bombed military sites in Caracas) and had that new powerful sound cannon blasted at them that had them instantly debilitated & bleeding from the nose and ears.

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            The military would have told them about the loyalist factions obviously. The cubans. And whatever handful of other groups weren’t in on it. Not a chance the US could have pulled that off with a mobilized venzuelan military in the most protected places in the country. Not a chance they would have attempted it. They could have killed him easy enough, flying helicoptors in to grab him, not a chance.

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    The Nobel organization should rescind her award and give it to someone else. Now he just has a gold necklace and not an official Nobel Prize.

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      He already just has a gold necklace and not an official peace prize. Giving away the physical medal doesn’t change who was officially given the award. Just like giving away an Olympic medal doesn’t make the new holder the winner of an Olympic event

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    I said it before but I’ll say it again, she deserves a Peace Prize just for shutting up that crybaby by giving hers to him.

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      He is a bottomless pit of selfish needs, though, so even if he is ridiculous enough to accept a trophy regifted to him as the same thing as one awarded to him, he’ll want another.

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    JFC, how pathetic this guy is.

    That’s not how medals work, asshole.

    Who would have thought a guy practically in the Silent Generation would have pined for a participation trophy? Such a loser.

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      Not even a participation trophy. I have recieved exactly 1 trophy in my life. It was a 1992 participation trophy for playing 1st grade basketball as mandated by the school.

      But I DID play the season of basketball. I DID participste.

      Show me where trump has participated in acts that promote peace.

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        What ending the wars in palestine, syria, lebanon, yemen, palestine again, yemen, lebanon, then iran, then palestine aren’t good enough for you?

        Well do not worry he may be ending wars this year in venezuela, cuba, mexico, canada, denmark, and iran again. /s

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          There’s 195 countries in the world and we’re engaged in like 7 different wars so that’s 188 wars that Trump has prevented by not randomly deciding to attack them /s