Donald Trump has insisted Iran must “open up the Strait of Trump” and complained about not winning the Nobel Peace Prize in a meandering speech at the Future Investment Initiative Institute summit in Miami, Florida.
Trump is killing the global economy, pulling everyone into a recession. Prices for daily necessities are skyrocketing, and still Trump has 40% approval rating in the US? Like do those fckng idiots like paying more for everyday stuff? What the fck is wrong with them.
Team sports mentality. Trump is “their guy” and however he royally screws up “at least he’s not a Democrat”
Also, a lot of folks said point blank voting for Trump is being a sucker and a fool, and to go against Trump is to admit they got fooled.
Yesterday in an interview I heard the MAGA person was hard core that whatever the government is doing, they secretly have reasons they can’t tell us because spilling the Intel would be so dangerous. Pretty much the same crowd whining about a liberal government keeping secrets from them now celebrates secrets being managed by the conservatives.
The alternative would have been a woman of color and damned if they ever suggest that could have been a better outcome.
Additionally, the racists do still have the Hispanics getting screwed over and afraid. The people who got injured and killed were “obnoxious liberals” that are better gone anyway.
Of course this is also as close as they have seen in decades of federal policies trying to make it harder for poor people and women to vote.
There’s a lot of vile sentiment and being close to that being followed is worth having problems.
What the fuck is wrong with most Americans as I we are seeing more real action from Canadians while Americans mostly complain online and may go to a protest once in a while if at all, plus and protests are ineffective as team Trump only hear/feel money. You got to hit MAGA where it counts and target boycott their business like the Canadians. If Americans did the same, we would be hearing about all the MAGA businesses going bankrupt. I am very disappointed with Americans and shocked they are so passive.
Born to be free… Free to do fuck all
Unlimited freedom like the US style “unlimited” holiday… subject to manager approval… and scrutiny if you’re seen to take too much… also not being a team player who is the first to get fired when there are layoffs…
free as in freedom in north korea
Did he seriously try to name the Strait of Hormuz after himself? By decree?
What a loser.
This is getting bigger by the day.
Fuel shortages in SE Asia. This affects many industries the US gets products from.
China has suspended mineral shipments to the US and restricted fertilizer exports.
Russia is all but openly aiding Iran and likely instigating some of the actions.
Panic buying is happening in South America.
Diesel is over $10/gallon in some places.
Gas prices are hitting record highs in some places in the US.
And these effects are “rubber band” effects. They lag behind the actual impetus driving them.
This is going to get worse. A lot worse. These events are red flags. And if nation groups start taking sides over the conflict we are going to possibly see a far greater war and massive privation globally.
Isn’t the US a net exporter of oil? Why does this cause US gas prices to go up?
To put it more explicitly: If a US oil producer can sell a barrel to Indonesia for $150 a barrel, why would they sell it to California for $100?
You answered your own question.
We export the oil. The oil is bid on via a global market. That market sets the price of oil.
The companies selling oil and gas from the US sources have no loyalty to the US, they’re going to make money however it suits them.
Adding to the other comments that point out opportunity to sell overseas is too tempting.
Also despite being a net exporter, some places are likely to import.
In the southeast, prices have gone up, but not as much as the West Coast. So much logistics to feed the pipelines that would be so tricky to get into ships, that is not worth doing it. So places where boats play a large role in oil logistics, well those places are subject to global market conditions more.
There’s different types of oil, that take different types of machinery to process, basically the oil from the US has to be exported to other refineries, because they don’t have the infrastructure to be able to use (or process) their own raw product.
Because of market rules. Supply has shot down but demand hasnt.
Because oil and gas are both globally marketed.
And one reason US prices for gasoline are higher is because the US is a net exporter. If all US production stayed in the US, prices would be lower.
Because of profits.
“We’re negotiating now, and it’d be great if we could do something, but they have to open it up. They have to open up the Strait of Trump — I mean, Hormuz. Excuse me, I’m so sorry, such a terrible mistake,” Trump said.
“The fake news will say he accidentally said — there’s no accidents with me, not too many. If there were, we’d have a major story,” he added.
“If I don’t get the Nobel Prize for peace, nobody will ever get it. I didn’t get it. I’m not surprised. The person that got it was shocked — she’s a wonderful woman too, by the way,” he said.
This is completely incongruent with reality. Trump has lived his hyper-privileged life speaking the things he wants into existence, and that privilege has now reached its limit.
These are not the words of a sane person.
“There no accidents with me…” …check his pants… “not too many”
It was deliberate, not an accident.
Oh my god he actually called it the Straight of Trump.
And then he pretended it was a mistake, and then claimed the “fake news media” would call it an accident, but that he doesn’t make accidents, and that it would be really big news if he did?
He’s sundowning…
I’m more astonished that he admitted to making a mistake, and that he did so straight away.
He must be realising that his brain is failing him and that he can’t fake it any more.
I think that was deliberate. See, it wasn’t a mistake at all. He thought he was being cunning. “I can slip in calling it the strait of trump, and maybe it’ll catch on. I’ll cover for myself by pretending it was a mistake.”
But because he’s a narcissist, he just couldn’t refrain from following that up with “but actually I don’t have accidents. The fake news mainstream media will call it an accident. But if I did have an accident it would be big news”.
Like, his brain is so rotted it doesn’t even pick up on all those contradictions. He literally thinks he’s being clever…
He can only acknowledge making a mistake when he thinks it’s a lie intended to deceive people about something he did on purpose… the man is twisted…
I’m more shocked he said “excuse me, I’m so sorry” afterwards. Are we sure that’s the real Trump?
It was obviously insincere. Same old Trump.
If he replaces any more words with his own name I think he can technically be considered a Pokémon.
I hadn’t thought of that, nor can I imagine many kids shouting “Trump, I choose you!” for any reason.
He wants to be remembered. One thing I can guarantee if he won’t be forgotten any time soon. They’re gonna be talking about this lunacy for many decades to come.
Wow, he’s just so subtle
He’s really a clever businessman!
Yup. So clever he’s been bankrupt SIX times!
Art of the con, I mean deal.
I would say that’s a national embarrassment, but his entire presidency has been.
Also, what are all these bigwig investors listening to his speech thinking?
I hope it has a chilling effect on the economy…
What a fucking embarrassment.
That’s an understatement.
Yeah, being only incompetent would feel like a change for the better.
Trump has no Plan B.
Either the rape he planned goes as expected, or he ends up here, impotently raging at the rest of the world.
Trump has no plan A either. Not even the concept of a plan A. The decision to invade Iran was a combination of his lack of self control from dementia, and being surrounded by yes-men.
Why oh why didn’t his mommy take Plan B…
(I know it wasn’t invented yet, lemme have my fun!)
Coat hangers were a thing back then or not?
Why didn’t his father use condoms?
The yes-men thing might be the other way around. There have definitely been lots of can’t-keep-their-hands-to-themselves fascists in Washington that have wanted to invade Iran since long before his presidency.
Oh he’s totally being manipulated like a puppet by Stephen Miller and others, who will be planting ideas and then congratulating Donny for thinking it up, but what I was getting at was that nobody in his cabinet will be trying to reign him in or even moderate his impulses. It will all be yes sir, what a great idea sir, I wish I was as smart as you, sir.
He just does whatever the last person he saw tells him to do. He has NO plan at all. Just to listen to whatever the last person he saw tells him to do.
Did he plan the protests and the murders of protestors too?
The rape victim has once again bitten his little mushroom and now he doesn’t know what to do.
There’s nothing to “negotiate” Donald. You leave and pay repairations to Iran for an unprovoked attack. That’s it.
When a Roman general behaved in a way that brought Rome into disrepute, he’d be handed over in chains to the enemy.
At least one corrupt leader was also said to be made to drink molten gold until his guts exploded.
There are so many precedents.
… and he can hand himself over to the Iranians on the way out too. Save the American taxpayers the cost of prosecuting him.
Trump is desperate to get his name on everything before he dies. He’s always been desperate to get his name on things, and now that he’s getting older and more infirm, he positively reeks of desperation.
But I suspect that the future historians won’t be kind to him and eventually we’ll get his name off of everything and his only real legacy will be in every list of history’s worst American Presidents.
“only real legacy will be in every list of history’s worst American President” and in in the Epstein Files and as a convicted felon and as a sexual predator and as a child rapist and …
He’ll get some scrutiny, but the real story is the society that put him there and kept him there.
I view that as part of the “worst President” information. You know. “In our countdown of the worst presidents, you knew you’d see the child rapist Donald Trump. But where will the convicted felon, serial liar, and insurrectionist go? Will he be the number one worst?”
Just watch as Americans elect someone worse.
We somehow always top ourselves. Sadly enough.
Fortunately Jimmy Savile is already dead and like Prince Andrew, Elon Musk, and Ted (Zodiac) Cruz wern’t born in the US. It’s gonna be hard to find someone worse unless Diddy’s schedule frees up.
Vance will be worse, the question is whether he’s electable
I read another commenter in another thread recently call it Damnatio Memoriae, a process often revealed in archaeology and / or ancient history whereby successors or the populace try to scrub a ruler from history.
considering who supplies the majority of US textbooks…unlikely to be nearly as negative as it should be
Back in the oil baron days they’d just fund a building for the public like a hospital or school but I guess he’s too broke for that.
Probably too broke, definitely too cheap.
Seriously, how many things have the name Carnegie on them?
Once he’s gone, the name will become a slur applied to the corrupt and those lacking a moral compass
I agree with you, and find myself imagining that the items with his name/face on them will be major targets for defacement and destruction, regardless of him being alive or not.
Unfortunately, that may increase the value of any surviving relics among his base.
Like, we can destroy every coin or banknote that we see with his name or face on it, but somebody is going to stockpile them and sell them to other “true believers” once they become scarce…
Trump is desperate to get his name on everything before he dies.
It’s like he’s a dying weasel scent-marking everying in its vicinity while in its death throes.
Seriously, hurry up and have a massive stroke, do the world a favor for the first time in your diseased life, pig boy.
Everything burns.
Die already
This is so pathetic. What an embarrassment.
Trump will be remembered for his many crimes and ethical bankruptcy. Inevitably after he’s gone, there will be no incentive to cover for him, and the incentive will be to blame him for the terrible state in which he will leave the US economy and international relations.
Anyone with a pulse knows that he is a child rapist. Anyone with above-room-temperature IQ knows that he was deeply involved in Epstein’s operation, acquiring, grooming, and warehousing girls. Any genuine investigation will produce evidence of that.
He’s also single-handedly destabilised the global economy. The trillions of dollars his dumb ideas have cost everyone in productivity are just breathtaking.
Operation Epstein Fury is probably the USA’s biggest and most costly unforced strategic error in history. The consequences will resound through the coming decades.
The culmination of this context is that he has accelerated China’s rise to dominance and the USA’s collapse into irrelevance. As an Australian, just 2 years ago I was keen for us to cosy up to the US in the hope that the yanks would help us push back on China’s expansion of influence in the region. Honestly, now I feel more comfortable with China than I do with the US.
Operation Epstein Fury is probably the USA’s biggest and most costly unforced strategic error in history.
It’s further evidence that the system is broken. Not only was this war started for no reason, but the system was so fucked that it allowed a degenerate criminal like Trump to rise to power in the first place.
I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords.
It’s for sure the biggest unforced error in US history, we won’t be able to be sure until everything shakes out but attacking Iran might be the biggest mistake in the history of geopolitics
I don’t know, the history of geopolitics is pretty huge…
That’s true, but I don’t think it’s hyperbolic to say that there’s a chance this conflict could escalate, and precipitate a global depression, at a time when mankind faces other disasters like climate change.
Like a global financial depression lasting a decade or more, some climate change tipping points, some food chain collapse, water shortages, increasing severity of storms and droughts.
All these things weren’t caused by this conflict but this conflict was an unnecessary burden at the worst possible time.
It’s true that “worst in the history of geopolitics” is a big declaration, but I think this is in that kind of magnitude.
I think “worst [anything] in the history of the world” is a bold and contentious statement, but mostly unnecessary and missing the point. There are plenty of major historical fuck ups to choose from.
Requesting the Mongol invaders to kill your enemies for you? You done fucked up.
Requesting Western Europe to send help defending the borders of Byzantium? You done fucked up.
Attacking the Danes bathing in the river because English women find them more attractive? You done fucked up.
Yeah, attacking Iran is a major fuck up. But I believe that categorically, superlatives are unnecessary in historiology.
Amen to that!
Congress is letting this shit head do this and the people who voted them in think it’s great.
The dumbest people on the planet are in charge.
And you can see it online with people saying “what does no kings mean? America doesn’t have a king”
It does when congress does nothing and the joke of a court rubber stamps everything.
Yet they just cant see it. Damn that is a level of stupid that exceeds anything ever seen before.
America is now an idiocracy.
Everything about this news makes me wish I could shout “oh for crying out loud, will you just shut up, you deeply deeply weird man” at Trump’s face. Unfortunately, I live on the other side of the world and I have other worries to deal with.
It’s been really awesome having a demented old pedofile child murderer as the most powerful person in the world. Everyday I’m like I can’t wait to see how much worse it can get. We literally could have randomly picked any crackhead in America and they would have been a better president.
Careful, the dbshitters and bots will come swarming for daring to suggest doing anything differently would’ve been better.
