Not really a meme meme, but i felt like i had to :s
It’s legal until someone challenges it in court and they say it isn’t. Sue.
Absolutely. I suspect the courts will find that if you are picky about what you allow, then you are responsible for it. It might force a push back to safe harbor type situations absolving them of caring about processing porn.
I’m not a cryptobro but these things make me want to hodl on some
cryptocurrency is absolutely not going to be a substitute. what happens when your client’s money drops in value halfway through working on their commission?
Or what happens when governments ban crypo exchanges?
I think the real answer is for us (the electorate) to start electing officials who aren’t puritanical twats. Way way harder to do tough.
Is this a serious question? Crypto is inherently decentralised and anonymous, from the base technology of the blockchain. The existence of crypto exchanges is directly opposed to its entire thesis as a digital currency, and only exist because people now treat it like a speculative asset and not like money.
Would make it difficult to on/off-ramp though. Though I guess, theoretically, it wouldn’t be necessary if you can use it for payment.
Yes it’s decentralized and very hard to stop to parties from making a crypto transaction. But what about cases where you need to convert your crypto to say euros because the person/business you need to pay doesn’t accept crypto? Don’t you need an exchange for that?
How easy/ widely accepted is it to pay for things using crypto (gas, rent, mortgage etc.)?
The point I was trying to make is that if paying for stuff in crypto isn’t ubiquitous, it’s far less practical as a form of currency.
Not agreeing or disagreeing, but just a note that the alternstive to exchanges is peer to peer trading of cash/crypto where two individuals agree to swap. Obviously a lot more tedious and hard to do that, but with the right tools and mass adoption it could be feesible.
If the government wants to ban crypto all together though, i doubt any solution could exist.
Easy. Agree on the price in a more stable currency, and pay the equivalent in crypto when the work is done.
Could use a stablecoin that’s pegged to USD or EUR.
USDC seems relatively safe given how much traditional investment is tied up in Coinbase and Circle.
whats a payment processor? something like PayPal?
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A middle man between a vendor and your bank, essentially.
oh, actually, there is a third option - very popular and widespread in Poland - BLIK - let’s hope that a) they won’t bend to the same bullshit b) they take the chance to go global.
BLIK is really nifty, you go to your banking app, generate a code, give the code to the website/seller, confirm in the app, and payment made.
and all you’ll have to say (obviously steortyping here) is that if BLIK does the same as Visa & Mastercard, the Witcher & Cyberpunk will have to be banned due to adult content, instant win and security of NSFW media forever
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They supposedly love their children too.
My God… All the “pro life” movements make so much more sense now! They actually don’t care about the women, they only want the children around. And worse off the children, the better for them!
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This comic goes from 2020 to 1984, was this comic originally about idiots that compared wearing a face mask to wearing a jew star?
Worse, it was when Twitter banned Trump. This is just like when the Savage John asked to be exiled from the World State but the Controller forces him to engage in society to torture him.
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There was a reddit sub where they take in unfunny comics (usually sexist) and then edit them to be funny. That’s how this actually became a meme.
I think that was r/bonehurtingjuice
Nah, I’m pretty sure it was r/comedynecromancy. They took unfunny comics/memes and made them funny. They were an offshoot of r/comedycemetary, they just reposted unfunny comics/memes to poke fun at.
Could be a case of parallel evolution.
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Wow, i didn’t know they had made that? Well, never heard about it, but that’s cool! I love everything made by/with the GNU Project :p
so hear me out.
there’s an entire continent of payment processors out there that are not American.
just use one of those.
problem solved for a few years.
JCB - Japan only
I’m not American and even I only know Visa and Mastercard. I know there used to be Maestro, but that was also owned by Mastercard. So what else is there that works globally?
https://thefinrate.com/top-payment-processing-companies-in-the-eu/
https://fintechmagazine.com/top10/top-10-payment-processors
some are based in US, but there should be at least 10 from those two lists.
I know some of those, but they don’t count.
Most of those are still just going to use Visa and Mastercard underneath to process payments by card… Since those are mostly all Visa or Mastercard. There are exceptions but those are regional.
There are a lot of “payment processors” but only 2 major card companies and that’s an issue.
I remember I was able to set up PayPal with direct bank account info. It’s not the most common scenario, and as long as they support Visa they’d be a target.
If one of those companies decided to dedicate their company to free speech, they might go bank transactions only, and cut out the cards. Admittedly, there’s probably dozens of other hurdles I’m not even aware of there.
Yeah, but then you give PayPal a whole bunch of control over your bank account. IIRC they can just withdraw whenever they want?
With card payments, there’s chargebacks for fraudulent transfers or if a vendor refuses a refund on fraudulent grounds. Those are just not a thing for bank transfers, at least not where I come from.
Personally, most of the time I make a payment, it’s a bank transfer (they’re instant most of the time anyway between SEPA accounts and under 10k per transfer or whatever). But there are many benefits of a card payment. Others include: Collecting points (on credit cards in some countries, or something like a Revolut card on any plan other than the free one), purchase insurance, etc.
People are always going to want to make card payments. We need better alternatives in the card company space, and standards to make sure every vendor can accept payments from every card type.
Doubt it, how else will Onlyfans funnel money … elsewhere?
Tupã bless Brazil’s pix.
At least I can still buy porn from local furry artists.
Speed running the porn companies making their own payment processor
AFAIK there’s pay processing business that will do nsfw transactions but they ask for extra money.
I’d open a KinkPay account, when offered.
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I was worried that this could make bitcoin seem useful but other people in here are explaining why bitcoin would still be an awful solution for this.
So… are we going back to cash and checks? Will people need to mail envelopes of cash to furry vore artists?
Bitcoin wouldn’t be an awful solution to this, but there’s certainly a few better ones, such as
- Visa and MC just being the opinionless payment providers they ought to be.
- Regulation enforcing all payment providers to be similarly opinionless.
- Ethereum, or another crypto more suited to many, fast payments
- A layer-2 network over Bitcoin that can enable many fast payments, such as the lightning network.
- Monero for private, almost untraceable transaction, keep furry vore artist under cover and still paid in oppressive country.
I wonder how long this will last. The NSFW industry is insanely huge. If the current payment processors cut it off, that leaves a giant gap in the market just waiting to get filled (😏).
If they hold firm on this, it might just be a rare opportunity for a new (and hopefully better) payment processor to enter the market.
Or maybe just wider crypto adoption, idk.
I have no idea why all of a sudden payment processors care bout anything but money. What happened ?
Collective Shout happened, an australian organisation decided to wage global war on anything NSFW in games (so far), their key talking points are allegedly being feminist and anti-exploitation of women.
i wonder if they asked the women they’re saying they’re protecting if they want that “protection”, or if they’re imagining that women just don’t make NSFW art
Their (collective shout) open letter to these companies has a headline like “you are profiting from exploitation” basically, but worse. I guess the card networks were thinking about their stock price or something when they made the decision.
Why would they ask? They know what’s best for everyone. All people. All around the world.
/s
Bad press?
This is why some of us love crypto currencies so much despite the hate it gets from so many who claim there is no intrinsic value, it’s a scam, etc.
Stay away from shit coins, no doubt, but the intrinsic value is that you can side step all of the bullshit and spend your money as you choose. No need to get permission first. It’s looking to be a much better path forward, and payment processors inserting their own rules will only drive more acceptance of alternative payment methods.
I mean this is a false dichotomy. You can have a payment system that isn’t a shit show like crypto or a duopoly like Visa and Mastercard.
??? Nothing about what I said was a dichotomy of any kind. Where did I exclude the possibility to create something else?
All I did was use this situation to illustrate why crypto has value today.
I don’t get it. Will they also ban sex shops, adult cinemas and every other offline adult entertainment thing that exist?
Yeah, that’s literally what these people want.
Now that weed is being widely accepted legally, porn is the new prohibition.
two steps forward ten steps back, eh?
Man. I remember being a kid and dreaming about a world where puritans got laughed out of existence. Then we had the “woke” era which shocked me sideways. I never dreamed that progressive thinking people would get hung up on regressive shit like policing language, it reminded me of being in church as a kid and hearing about those dreaded, awful, naughty words. But hey, at least their goals were well meaning and driven by empathy and concern for how other people have it in this world.
Who did they piss off though? The fucking puritans. The very people who policed language all of my childhood. It turns out that nothing ever meant anything to them, they just wanted to control people. “Don’t tell me I can’t call a little person a midget! Bad words is fuck and shit! Not me making fun of people!!!” One group said, “if it’s fun it’s bad.” The other group said, “if anyone is hurt by it, it’s bad.”
Now the puritans have gone full fascist because they felt like they were losing some culture war, so they want it all, and they scream loud enough to be heard.
It’s like this tug of war that is just going to end with regular people who don’t raise hell when they get upset being shoved into the dirt by a loud crybaby minority of people.
Before I had any grasp of history, I just assumed that people were always heading toward being more liberal in how they deal with the world.
Nope, this is what we do. We have cycles of enlightenment and cycles of assholes responding to said enlightenment. Somebody always has to be morally superior, fighting some ugly enemy. If we ran out of reasons to fight tomorrow, we’d just argue over some other dumb shit.
I’m drunk, so please don’t take me too seriously. I’ll probably wake up tomorrow and argue with myself about deleting this comment haha.
Whatever happens, I really hope we have freedom at the end of the day. I don’t care what it costs. Maybe we aren’t meant to have it. Maybe our nature is just too ugly.
