• AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    We’ve had elections during a war before and we can do it again. Ukrainian laws don’t apply to the US.

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 months ago

      Yeah, the law pertaining to not holding elections during martial law in Ukraine was created during another person’s presidency as well. He didn’t make that. (It stemmed from Russias invasion into Ukraine in 2014, law made in 2015). Zelensky didn’t become president until 2019.

    • cosmicrookie@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      If the war was closer or even inside the US, it might be a different thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if he could still consider it though.

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          8 months ago

          I can’t help but feel like a civil war is a different scenario. Russia currently controls 20% of Ukraine. For the sake of simplicity, that’s 10 US states. I have a very hard time believing that if a foreign country had complete control of 10 states, and the majority of the people of those states, for all intents and purpose were unable to vote, an election would go over smoothly. I have to imagine it would be an utter shitshow.

          • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」(he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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            8 months ago

            Practically, if the US was actually occupied by a foreign force (having a puppet president doesn’t count), then the occupied areas will not be able to cast their ballots, and the states being partially occupied will have a biased result and electors will be appointed by those living in unoccupied areas. If a whole state is occupied, they probably would have electoral votes that are not cast (since they wouldn’t have a certificate of ascertainment from the now defunct state government). Election would get very ugly even if its a 51/49 split in the remaining electoral college votes since if, say, a state with 18 electors is occupied, one side could get 265 electoral votes and the other gets 255 electoral votes, so there would be a constitutional crisis on whether this counts as a majority (265/520) or not a majority (265/538).

            But I’m guessing they’ll go by Civil War precedent and just exclude the occupied states from being counted so its probably 520 as the total electoral votes using that same example.

          • AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            I see where you’re coming from, though I would argue that if we’re at war in '28 it won’t be because the US was invaded by a foreign power.

    • ganksy@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Mexico, Canada or civil war. Just be as belligerent as possible to everyone and see who takes the bait.

      I’ll bet in private he’s going nuts that no one has so far. “What the hell do I gotta do to these people?!”

    • CircaV@lemmy.ca
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      8 months ago

      If he tries to invade Canada, Canada’s gonna party like it’s 1814 and we gonna light up the WH - again.

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        My money is on Canada.

        • Nice, desirable natural resources like fresh water, lumber, and oil.
        • Plenty of non-immigrant immigrants to feed the legal slavery prison industrial complex.
        • Control over arctic trade passages.

        And he’s been laying the propaganda and groundwork for months now:

        • “joking” about Canada being the 51st state.
        • Claiming Canada is the source of illegally imported Fentanyl, despite overwhelming evidence that almost all of it comes from Mexico.
        • Harsher tariffs than other allied countries, using Fentanyl as the justification for it.
        • Factually incorrect statements about unfair and “illegal” trade restrictions imposed by Canada.
        • Claims about Canada “taking advantage” of the country in regards to national security and a trade deficit that ignores the population and GDP difference.
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          8 months ago

          Oh for sure - all the Trunp rhetoric is pretext for war on Canada. Luckily there’s quite a few things Americans don’t know about us - and we’re gonna keep it that way until the last possible minute.

    • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de
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      8 months ago

      Not sure. Putin has other means of staying in power, like killing political opponents, disillusion and propaganda. The reason he invaded Ukraine is because he is an irredentist bozo that wants his beloved Soviet Union back, not because he was threatened.

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    8 months ago

    I’m positive that would only apply, if the US was actually invaded and/or occupied by a hostile power. If it’s just the US bombing some other country, then why would local politics be affected?

  • CircaV@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    He’s telling everyone what his plan is. War incoming by Jan 2029.

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    8 months ago

    He’s not joking. What does he have to do to be taken seriously? A hostile takeover of the capital?

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    8 months ago

    He is NOT JOKING. This is his plan.

    You think he’s deploying the military on US soil because he gives a fuck about law and order? Guess again. He’s testing the waters now to see what he can get away with when the time comes.

    Federal elections have never been cancelled or postponed in the history of the nation. Not even for the Civil War, or WWII. It’s mandated by the constitution.

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      8 months ago

      Same how the 14th Amendment to the Constitution is basically invalidated as long as some states hold off on challenging his EO undoing it.

      He’ll do some “Elections will happen, but only in states that are nice to me and I expect to win” EO and will basically take CA and IL out of the results, and their results won’t be certified by Congress. Because right now it’s a race to rig 2026 to save donor campaign money.

    • CircaV@lemmy.ca
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      8 months ago

      He is a dictator. There will be no more elections. America is an autocracy.