He was never that good at numbers, that Donald guy.
Sure but helping the homeless would make them actual Christians following the teachings of Christ and we know that now what Republican Christians do.
Trump only ever claimed to be Christian to sell bibles.
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TRUMP BIBLE, TRUMP BIBLE! GET YOUR TRUMP BIBLE. ORDER NOW AND WELL THROW IN A TRUMP 2028 HAT!
I wonder if he’s gonna update the included constitution in the bible with the newly redacted rights
It’s never about the cost. It’s always about the hate.
And fear
Same as it ever was.
The Cruelty Is The Point.
They’d put all the money in a literal pile and set it on literal fire before they’d just help people who need the help.
If I had to characterize the US govt when it comes to helping its citizens I’d compare it to Immortan Joe.
Immortan Joe: Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!
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was joe cruel or stupid? the administration is cruel
Cruelty is inherently stupid in the long run.
Hard disagree. Most of our billionaires will have lived long, happy lives, dying in peace and comfort surrounded by loving family after decades of cruelty. For each of them, it was perfectly sensible.
Billionaires are selfish and whatever cruelty just comes second to that. What we’re seeing with Trump and ICE is cruelty as the main purpose and if we’re using the Nazi’s as the established pattern, we’ll see it end that way as well.
Well, unless climate change cuts it short, which is what I was really getting as with “long run”.
Hard disagree. The cruelty is the point. They’re spending resources making sure that we suffer when it does nothing to benefit them.
Billionaires genuinely do not consider the people beneath them to be anything other than pawns and slaves. They really, REALLY don’t care.
Correct. It’s the definition of cruel.
Yep. Cruelty and intimidation.
Cruelty is the point. I really don’t think this country will ever change in any positive direction, sadly.
The point is to 'test run" military protection around the White House.
This. They know that none of this is sustainable on a the grand scale.
It worse than the country won’t change - it’s humanity that won’t change.
This makes sense if cruelty is the point.
Not just cruelty. Someone else in another thread pointed out this is exactly what you would do if you’re afraid of a civil war. Now, you’ve got an easily defended government center, and a large amount of people out in the streets that any opposing force will have to fight through in order to get to any of the governmental buildings (though really, we’re only caring about the WH). Additionally, you have an oceanfront escape route if shit goes poorly.
A modern civil war won’t be like the 1860s with battle lines.
We’re looking more at a “He has to get it right every time, we only have to get it right once” situation. Lone wolves or single person attacks with outside benefactors are likely to be more common than formations of troops.
Cruelty, yes, but let’s not forget grift.
And cognitive dissonance. Gotta redraw those lines in the sand!
president “epstein” trying very hard to shift public focus away from himself, and the fact that ghislaine being on work release isnt gaining more attention is something.
Breaking news Trump is a moron
He is, but his puppeteers aren’t, they are evil and played the long game.
Who are his puppeteers?
Heritage Foundation
Can someone explain to me, seriously…
why is there no one with the authority to deem him unfit to govern, and demand that he step down under duress of consequences? I mean, he is clearly addled and his entire administration is provenly grifting America- Why is no one demanding that he step down?
This seriously is the end of the road for me when it comes to making enough sense of any of this that that at least resembles a modicum of logic and rationality. At this point, I just can’t understand anything beyond why this isn’t a thing, and if it is,
what are they waiting for?
why is there no one with the authority to deem him unfit to govern, and demand that he step down under duress of consequences?
There is, it’s called impeachment followed by a vote to remove. That vote can’t pass without Republicans joining in, and they likely won’t.
Millions of people are demanding that Trump step down or be removed. A large portion of the country still wants him in office. Al Green proposed impeachment and the house voted it down 344 to 79. Most people in authority do not want to remove Trump. The time to stop him was last November.
The time to stop him was last November.
I’ve been screaming that from the rooftops. I was just wondering/wishing if we had a system in place somehow that allowed for emergency situations like having a wannabe tyrant turned terrorist manchild in office.
Everyone gave up.
Including myself, I’m moving.
Come to Canada, we definitely need as many progressive voters as we can get.
It’s currently one of my options, but for a variety of family reasons it isn’t the top option. But I do have a consulting gig that said they’d gladly sponsor me and help me navigate it.
I envy you. I’m stuck here.
I mean, to be fair, I still need about a year to tie some things up so I might not even be able to leave at that point…
I wish you the best, as I would anyone lucky enough to escape this shithole.
They’re called voters.
Yeahs this is why I am usually responding to things like this saying that it was all avoidable. 91 million people stayed home and didn’t bother.
That’s what caused this. I not wish there was a way out for those that did their part.
(…) it was all avoidable.
It really wasn’t. Everything in American politics for long years has been leading to this point. It was always bound to happen, sooner or later. Sure, by choosing another president you could have potentially delayed it by a few years. But later it would have happened anyway. This is not a ‘Trump issue’. This is a ‘USA issue’.
I think Americans are the only ones who haven’t seen this coming. And I don’t mean that in a hostile way. Your education system has been sabotaged for decades, so it’s no wonder the people are uninformed and ignorant to what’s going on. The only ones to blame are the psychopathic politicians and billionaires who deliberately made this happen over the last 200 years.
Fair point, but I was more meaning on the more recent and shorter term angle. I do agree wholeheartedly though.
They were called voters. They don’t matter anymore, you’re gonna see any potential for voters to influence things get removed by extensive and massive gerrymandering.
IMO, y’all just had your last ‘real’ election.
Gerrymandering only applies to the house of representatives. It has no bearing on presidential or Senate elections.
The American people voted for him and this. Why would he be removed?
I didn’t.
Too bad, that’s how voting works.
I keep seeing Americans post things like this. There’s no one coming to save you.
The American people are the ones who need to be making those demands. The government should fear the people, not the other way around. Isn’t this scenario exactly why there’s the second amendment?
Sorry to say that this problem has been allowed to progress to the point where it will be neither convenient nor easy to solve. It’s going to take consistent collective action.
I’m sorry, but do you actually understand what a concentration camp is and how permanent death is? No disrespect, but I see so many Canadians on here confused why we aren’t fighting harder. Plenty of us are. But maybe it’s the privilege of not knowing true American Police brutality with chemical weapons and actual lead bullets.
Yes, obviously I know those things.
I’m speaking about the population as a whole, not you as an individual. Of course there are people who are fighting the good fight daily, many of them working behind the scenes. I’m not talking about them.
I’m talking about the people asking why no one is doing anything. The ones who haven’t realized they need to join others and take action. The ones who think they just need to wait this out and vote.
Everyone has their own circumstances, privileges, skills, resources, ethics, etc. Everyone can resist in some way or another. I won’t claim that many of these ways don’t require some personal risk or sacrifice, but to imply that all of them will be met with police brutality is not only false, but serves to make people feel hopeless and give up.
The people. Americans. That’s what we’re waiting on.
the issue is unlike other nations in the world American law enforcement and the military will NOT hesitate to point a tank barrel in your face and pull the trigger. They are MORE than willing to fly the air force over some random town in Ohio and turn it into a parking lot. In places like France the people can riot for being told that Paper should not be thrown in the recycling bin anymore because French Authorities aren’t going to start a mass slaughter of their people, American authorities on the other hand have very little regard for their fellow man.
I was one of those Canadians wondering “why aren’t the people fighting back?” but now I get it. Chances are if the American people start fighting back a good massive chunk of them will be killed. So the question now is are the American people willing to literally DIE for their country? I don’t blame a single one of them if they answer “no.”
Because lets be honest here why throw your life away for a country that has already turned it’s back on you WELL before a Nazi wannabe dictator took office. Make no mistake Americans were STILL struggling under Democratic leadership. So I don’t blame them. They’re tired, they’re all barely surviving, their healthcare is tied directly to their employment (by design). Systems have been building and put in place for decades to ensure they DON’T rebel. Most Americans live paycheque to paycheque. The healthcare they do pay out the ass for is already pretty shitty. So fighting for ones country means you and your family no longer eat, no longer have a place to sleep, no longer have healthcare. again, this is by design.
If you’ve ever wondered how other Dictatorships in the world took power, this is how, this is EXACTLY how. Leverage already established systems, crank them a bit more, take and hold power.
The cards have been MASSIVELY stacked against the American people for a good long while now. Frankly, rebelling isn’t an option. Like Oliver they now have to hold their wooden bowls infront of Furor Trump and ask “Please sir, may I have another?”
And then you’d get Vance. Would you actually be better off
ofor just in a slightly different, adjacent hell?Whataboutism at it’s finest. And if Vance is unfit, we challenge it too. Simple as that.
What is actually happening to homeless people in DC at the moment?
The article is a bit vague. Some arrests, tickets?
I imagine far worse when the national guard is being called to specifically address this issue. Overall I am hearing little about the fate of the ones being targeted by the grey shirts. Does anyone have more info for an interested party?
I don’t want to be the contrarian but:
Two U.S. officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said it cost about $530 per Guard member, per day to be deployed.
How?! How could sending people that are already on the payroll to a different city cost this much? And you are really going to push such a claim, with the source being “some guys said so” and pretend to be a news organization we should take seriously?
First, I’m going to heavily qualify this statement. Like, a lot. I have never served in any military capacity and I’m repeating something a member of the Canadian military told me, which could easily be wrong for 20 reasons.
National Guardsman are similar to our “reservists” and are not paid when inactive. If additional troops who were already trained but not active, we’re then activated, that would account for additional costs.
So yeah, massive grain of salt but you asked and someone gave me a reasonable answer that seemed to fit. I have done no fact checking, though.
Thanks for the explanation. My understanding was that in the US, the national guard also had regular troops, not just reservists, but maybe they did call the reservists despite that or I misunderstood/misremembered.
Regardless, I still think an article explicitly about the cost of the deployment giving no information on this is absurd.
Because they are taking the entire cost of the operation, and dividing it by the number of folks deployed.
So that includes logistics, housing, food, equipment maintenance. Including those big expensive fucking trucks, etc etc. And of course, the MIC gets a big cut too.
Payroll is probably a small portion of that $530.
Your average national guardsman isn’t getting paid $530/day. That’s almost $200k/year.
Most of that cost is related specifically to this mission, just divided between all the personnel deployed for this statistic.
Nominative determinism strikes again.
How so?
Trump’s deployment of the National Guard to Washington, DC costs more than 4 times as much as it would cost to simply house every homeless person in the city according to researcher Hanna Homestead.
It’s a very fitting name for the researcher.
They don’t want to help people. They want to surpress people. To those people it hurts to help but they feel pleasure from harm. Those types are everywhere in our society but they have found a common home in maga.
The man is world famous as a money mismanager
