Not a big fan of O’Keefe, but I like this!

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      Disagree. The list will be shorter, but it’s not necessarily a short list. Being a Democrat doesn’t stop someone from being a PoS.

      A few years ago someone posted a list of reported sex crimes by politically affiliated people. It was about 60/40 Republicans.

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    I’m going to make a prediction if they are going to release a list of some sort with names on it:

    1. They will redact names by using black highlight using computer software and then destroying the underlying text information by printing it out and scanning it, or something similar. This would prevent the most obvious form of getting around the redaction (which is extracting text information from underneath the highlight).
    2. They will make the rookie mistake of using a proportional font like Times New Roman for the names, which is a font wherein each letter has a different length, instead of a monospace font like this one where all characters are the same width.
    3. An investigative journalist will notice that one of the redacted names is exactly the same length as “DONALD JOHN TRUMP” typed in the document’s font, and then applied black highlight over it.
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    My concern is that neither side has released a list because its going to be insanely ugly. Like the most powerful people in the US…and the fallout is going to be anarchy.

    I have to believe that Biden’s team looked at what the fallout would look like, and their reaction was “Oh…my…god. What they did was fuckjng horrific, but the country will literally implode if we release this.”

    I’m all for releasing it, we need a bit of a hard reset/wake up call.

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      people need to treat not releasing the info as though the files have the worst possible contents

      hard reset is definitely needed

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      Releasing the list is damage control.

      The Epstein list is really just a focusing lens of much greater rage at billionaires and the elites that cover for them. They either throw some meat to satiate the wolves at their door or the wolves will want to come for them all. Americans are too American to admit their rage is all really about wealth inequality.

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        I wish that were true, but it isn’t. A majority of Americans are too propagandized to be mad at the rich. They believe in capitalism deep in their souls, because schools have been teaching that capitalism is the best system in the world since at least the end of WWII, never mind that the US isn’t even a true capitalist state.

        A majority of Americans believe capitalism is a meritocracy, and that everybody who wins at capitalism is a superior person who got there on their own merits, because that’s what they’ve been taught their entire lives. Fortunately or unfortunately, a large minority of Americans have also been completely failed by their education system and their news system, so they have all kinds of other magical beliefs, like that there’s a cabal of rich and powerful who are draining children of adrenochrome. It’s a really stupid conspiracy theory, but it just happens to end up pointing them at the right targets for the wrong reasons.

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      The country won’t explode, it will destroy the pedophiles legacy and future though, which is death to them. Nearly everything biden does is do gaslight people into thinking he was a great person.

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      Well what you’re deciding to believe about that is just wrong. Members of the Biden administration did assist (D) senator Wyden’s investigation into wire transfers of billions of dollars to Epstein, which is still ongoing and he has published a list of dozens of names that he found records of financial involvement with Epstein. That investigation which Biden staff cooperated with is being blocked by Trump’s staff currently.

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      My concern is that neither side has released a list because its going to be insanely ugly. Like the most powerful people in the US…and the fallout is going to be anarchy.

      Yeah, sure. Anarchy. Let’s say everybody Epstein ever hung out with is rounded up and executed. Even if that does mean that 95% of US billionaires are executed, you think that’s going to result in anarchy? It’s just going to finally give a chance to people who aren’t rich. The only possible “anarchy” would be from these rich people refusing to go quietly. But, the rich never go quietly. They’d refuse to go quietly if it was a 2% wealth tax, and not an execution.

      Also, don’t forget that after his first arrest, Epstein was more or less radioactive. That was in 2008, 17 years ago. Prince Andrew did meet with him in 2010 and it was a huge news story because he obviously should have known better.

      So, let’s say that anybody who was 18 or younger in 2008 is safe from suspicion. Anybody younger than 18 in 2008 was possibly a victim, but was presumably too young to be preying on these underage girls. How old are those 18 year olds now? They’re 35. They’re old enough to run for president in 2028.

      I say fuck the gerontocracy. The only people who are 100% above suspicion are the ones too young to have been involved with Epstein. Let them run things.

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    It wouldn’t surprise me if this is at least partially true, but James O’Keefe has exactly zero credibility. He has made it his life’s work to produce poorly-made works of fiction, and he has the audacity to call it investigative reporting.

    Still, giving Republicans the benefit of the doubt on, well, anything feels deeply immoral.

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      The worst person you know is still a person. I posted another story about Thomas Massie accusing a Billionaire GOP mega donor of being on Epsteins client list.

      This is a big deal. GOP congressman from Kentucky, calling out HIS OWN BIG MONEY DONOR, and as far as I can tell he is standing alone on the republican side trying to get Epstein stuff public. I don’t like the guy, but I can believe this endeavor is moral.

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      If there IS a hypothetical former Biden official with the full unredacted documents who doesn’t have the courage to leak them, this hypothetical person needs to be hung from the nearest hypothetical tree.

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          Yeah, sure would be nice if they actually had political beliefs or principles they weren’t willing to discard when it made their garbage worldview inconvenient.

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      It’s almost like the Republicans are using the Epstein files as a way to distract everyone from them taking cudgel to the foundation of democracy and the Democrats are playing right into it. What if the files were released today, would any representative or senator really see any consequences? Would any of them sit before a judge? Will it be something else for them to yell at each other instead of addressing the real elephant in the room, the governments abject failure at governing. Cause you know, we could just believe the survivors. I trust them over anything the government releases at this point.

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        The genocide plus child rape will surely be the catalyst we need to stop voting for representatives who support FPTP.

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    Good! The LAST thing we Would want is for Republican Child Rapists to be CAUGHT! PROTECT THE REPUBLICAN CHILD RAPISTS!

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    As a Democrat, I say don’t redact any of them! If there’s Democrats in there, everyone needs to know. Everyone needs to know all the people involved!

    Stop being pussies and use this as a proper stepping stone to remove your rivals in the GOP! That’s how villain organizations are supposed to work!

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    Hopefully they leave in all the black redactions and not just delete them.

    That way we can see how many republicans were redacted.

    However I fear they’re also fabricating and just adding as many enemies they need to it for a large night of long knives. Like their version of Project Insight.