So, starting now, Google started mandating full JS for YT, effectively breaking all third-party clients and locking the site to their official client.
This reeks of DRM.
UPDATE: Installing Deno and installing yt-dlp through PyPi fixes yt-dlp but the very idea that Google is mandating JS to lock down YT in an attempt at pseudo-DRM is still crappy.
UPDATE #2: inv.nadeko.net is working again for now.
can’t wait until we get webrips of heyyeyaaeyaaaeyaeyaa (10 hours)
Slightly over dramatized. This happens basically every month or so. They break it, we fix it. For me newpipe and yt-dlp havent even stopped working despite not updating anything.
I’m relieved because I saw this post and assumed it meant in a more serious way than normal.
invidious, yt-dlp, and freetube have broken so many times for me over the last 6 months, I’ve fallen out of the habit of using YT lately anyway.
It sucks because there is content there that I want but I’m not going to whore myself for it.
I’m on iOS so my options are rather limited, but I’ve had decent luck using Brave. Is there anything that the others do that a browser wouldn’t?
Vinegar works really well, and hasn’t been affected by this change: https://apps.apple.com/au/app/vinegar-tube-cleaner/id1591303229
I don’t think Brave has any special magic that other browsers don’t.
My understanding is, all the workarounds in use recently work or fail depending on the IP address you have.
I don’t know anything about this change but it seems to simply require a JS engine in your client. Any browser has that, so the browser addons probably aren’t effected by this change.
However, it’s clear that YT is waging an incremental campaign here. Today it’s yt-dlp, next week… who knows.
Again, I think it’s mostly because it’s iOS - but Brave seems to be the only browser that allows both Picture-in-Picture and background play while also blocking ads.
Both Safari and Firefox display ads, and struggle with PiP.
Stop saying content and just say videos ffs
Reminds me of when people say “product” instead of “shampoo” or “conditioner” or whatever it is they’re actually putting in their hair. Capitalism-coded language.
Thank you! Ffs, I was just sitting here thinking, I am not paying ticketmaster a damn dime, even if I have to miss my childhood heroes before they die. People whore themselves out and it fucks all of society constantly. Can’t watch videos because of content monopoly, can’t see a concert without getting fucked on exorbitant fees, can’t go to the hospital because holy fuck, can’t go to school without crippling debt, can’t watch TV without supporting terrorists, etc. Like bloody hell the corpos have monopolized and ruined everything. They can go to hell. I’ll play my shitty guitar, sing to myself, do home surgery, and go outside or stare at a wall. Fuck this shit!
You still have alternative platforms to Big Tech though, PeerTube and Odysee like have been mentioned umpteen times in this thread and on Lemmy at large, and not to mention Lemmy itself, and Mastodon, Pixelfed, and Bsky among others.
Sure but they don’t have the content and don’t have staying power. If peertube became popular who is going to pay for the bandwidth.
Its users, in part because it uses web torrent which means the traffic of videos is shared peer-to-peer, thus the host doesn’t have to pay for a lot of bandwidth.
Also, just like mastodon servers are paid by its users for service I’m sure admins that build up a good reputation with their users or make them aware that they need more to pay for it will pay, or not and they’ll just disappear which is really how the web should work, not all these tech oligarchs who have lots of money from exploiting their users and workers.
Edit: Was incorrect, it uses HLS with P2P support:
At the beginning of PeerTube, we only supported Web Video (previously known as “WebTorrent”) streaming. Due to several limitations of the Web Video system, we had to add HLS with P2P support.
I thought PeerTube ditched WebTorrent and switched full-time to WebRTC a while back.
Seems you are correct, I thought webtorent was the only way to have peer-to-peer video, but seems not:
At the beginning of PeerTube, we only supported Web Video (previously known as “WebTorrent”) streaming. Due to several limitations of the Web Video system, we had to add HLS with P2P support.
That’s pretty cool, thanks for the information!
I’m not an expert on these things but I just don’t like the idea of web torrent.
I do however, whole heartedly agree that video producers should pay for their own bandwidth, and be supported by users.
I’m not an expert on these things but I just don’t like the idea of web torrent.
How come?
IDK really.
I don’t dislike it in a “this is terrible technology and no one should be doing it” kind of a way. Just in a “I feel a bit icky about this” kind of way.
There must be privacy considerations right? Do I really want everyone to know what videos I’m watching?
Also, do I really want my client to be providing n upstream connections grinding away at my battery?
They’ve probably long since solved this I guess but in the early days firefox wasn’t supported ?
I just… don’t feel like this is the solution to the cost of delivering content.
Bsky is just another VC financed grift though.
You’re probably right, but I’m not sure what the grift IS. Presumably they’ll start rolling out ads at some point?
They’re still running on VC money so it’ll be a while. My guess: ads, selling user data, AI training on user behaviours, limiting what content is suitable (getting rid of NSFW), promoting corporate brands (so algorithmic advertising) and adding crypto in one way or another. And all the other tricks that older platforms have been doing.
And probably burying the thought of distributed protocol, hoping people will stop talking about it.
ATProto’s dual-licensed under MIT and Apache so it’s not like it’ll be easy to get rid of.
I whore myself out and pay for the family plan, but I have a good reason.
My dad watches YT almost exclusively so I told him if he shared his password with me I can add him to my plan so he doesn’t see any ads. He fell for it. Now I login into his account ever so often and mark “not interested” on any red pill bullshit I see. It seems to be working.
I’ve been trying to maintain Invidious for months, eventually google blocks my IP or ASN which leaves me troubleshooting for hours until the realization settles in.
Shatter.
Yep, yt-dlp has already been fixed. Those devs are really awesome.
I mean, if you can display it on your screen, there must be a way to also save it.
Smart Tube never broke. So not all clients.
Grayjay still works
Not on my phone.
Android only? Desktop client stopped working last night. Did you do anything special?
Yeah Android. Desktop client (Linux flatpak) was working late into the night too. I haven’t checked again today though… will test when I get home from work
God damn it Google. Moves like this are such an insult to the free and open net that made YouTube popular in the first place
I applaud your belief that Google isn’t 100% against a free and open internet these days. They know exactly what they are doing.
I don’t know about the OP, but Google admitted recently to breaking the open web. By their own admission, and their own words, Google is against an open web. https://lemmy.org/post/1689081
Oh I know they are! Trying to de-google as much as possible. I was alluding to before their acquisition of the site which, even at the time, we all knew was not going to end well.
This is literally the company that tried to implement WEI
Needing a full JS engine to run on your user account for Youtube? What are the privacy and security implications here?
It’s probably more about control than security. Mandate JS, force people to watch their shit on their proprietary front-end.
I bet ad blockers and even manually blocking related cookies in FF browsers are probably going to break the site and force Chromium browser use too.
Literally all of this is false.
Newpipe works just fine (Germany)
Same here (USA). I haven’t updated my newpipe in a month at least, so it simply never broke. Not a big fan of these unverified headlines.
People love the drama. Our planet is basically a giant baboon rock floating through space. :)
I just downloaded MKBHD’s iPhone Air review, and it played perfectly. 1920p whatever that means (somewhere north of 1440p but not quite 2160p… or 2160p/4K but slightly letterboxed). AV1 (Ay-Vee-Wun, not Ay-Vee-Eye), 30fps… looks and sounds great.
Glad to see the community fixed it fast.
I use jdownloader2 which probably uses yt-dl on the back end. But it also downloads from a metric fuckton of other sites, too. It’s like the Swiss Army knife of downloaders. And it’s Java, so it runs just as well on my Mac as it did on Windows back when I used that. (Wish they had an official dark theme that was easy to set up though. I know how to do it manually but can’t be arsed.)
Pipepipe is still working, as long as you are not logged in, and obviously aren’t trying to watch age verification gated content.
For how long though who knows.
As of today at least, I can still download video/audio from YT on my android phone with NewPipe…
Fucks sake.
