Democrats have only hardened their position as the government shutdown enters its 23rd day, leaving Republican majorities in Congress with few answers — and many criticisms.

For the 12th time, Senate Democrats blocked the Republican Party’s government funding legislation this week without a single senator switching his or her vote.

Just three Democratic caucus members voted for the bill: John Fetterman, D-Pa.; Catherine Cortez Masto, D-Nev.; and Angus King, I-Maine. That means Republicans are still five votes short of the 60-vote threshold to ensure passage of the bill, just as they have been since before the government shut down 23 days ago.

Democratic voters had pressured their party to take a more confrontational posture toward Trump in the shutdown battle. The new stance may be paying off with the party’s base.

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    well yeah. they know once we hit november first its going to be more obvious to more folks what their bend over bill really does.

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    PA has some of poorest, worst quality of life conditions I have seen in this country. They really need to boot Fetterman. Jesus, wtf?

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      …what? Are you sure you’ve been to Pennsylvania?

      Fetterman can get fucked though, I’m with you there

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        Yeah, generalizations aren’t great. I’ve seen beautiful parts too. I have driven through and have family from small towns out in the country

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          I live in PA. But I’ve generally stayed on the east/west borders (meaning near Philadelphia and Pittsburgh). There are a lot of other areas (I’ve driven through, or around), and they may fit what you are saying more than people realize.

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      That depends on whether someone in PA can assemble the resources needed to primary him.

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        Or if he just decides to call himself a republican like he acts anyway.

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        I honestly dont expect him to run for reelection. The guy seems to absolutely hate being a senator after having a stroke. He definitely despises being in the public eye or the center of attention to some degree. He also seems to not really have much awareness of things going on around him in general anymore. He really should not be in such a stressful position in his current state of health, and I doubt he wants to be. Pride is probably the sole thing keeping him from stepping down. It definitely isnt his love for being in the role, that is for sure

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          Pride is probably the sole thing keeping him from stepping down.

          I think that sums up so many of the Democratic Party’s problems…

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          He’s a shitty town mayor. He got some TV time back then for his ‘crazy antics’. You might be right the national spotlight is hopefully too much for him.

          But you also don’t need to work a real job while you’re elected. That could be a bigger draw.

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      Oct 16 - Daily Beast

      Top-ranking Democratic Party officials in Pennsylvania are gearing up to run against Sen. John Fetterman in a 2028 primary contest, according to a report.

      Big names in the state who could well run against the increasingly embattled incumbent include House Representatives Brendan Boyle and Chris Deluzio, along with former Congressman Conor Lamb, Axios reports, citing multiple inside sources.

      Axios added it was not clear whether Fetterman, who is understood to have ambitions of running for the White House, plans to run again for the Senate or the presidency in 2028.

      Fetterman texted Axios saying, “enjoy your clickbait!” and requested “please do not contact” in response to follow-up questions. He also shared an article citing him as one of “the least Trump-aligned Democratic lawmakers in the state.”

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        “Please do not contact”?!? Dude, you’re a senator and that’s the press. You’re in the wrong job if you want to be able to ask to not be bothered by the press.

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          More of these guys want to keep the “official” post while dropping the “public” part…

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          Yeah, I got Brian Fitzpatrick as my rep, the “#1 Most Bipartisan Member of Congress” for however many years now. Still votes with Trump 51% of the time, and it’s only on money things he’ll break with Republicans on, very rarely ever is it a moral thing.

          Meanwhile Fetterman is polling better with Republicans (around 60% favorable) compared to with the Dems (around 50% favorable).

          Want to come up with a compromise on farm aid or disaster recovery? Go right ahead. Compromising on genocide and using the military on US soil? You better not reach across the aisle on that if you want my support. Fetterman deserves to be judged by the company he keeps.

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        I still can’t tell how much of this is sarcasm. I literally chortled out loud about half way through reading the quote, I think around where it said run for White House. Then the rest I didn’t know if I was supposed to be taking seriously.

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          Lol who knows? I mean, I’m sure he’s still better than we would have got with Oz, but that presidential run thing made me laugh too. You already lost half the people that voted for you, and as we’ve seen playing across the aisle isn’t getting anyone anywhere.

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    I’m sorry, but the rules for how your government works are so confusing.

    And requiring budget bills to pass every year or you entire government shuts down is a bug most other democracies patched out last century. (You just make everything roll over by default if you can’t pass a budget). The US Government seems to be constantly in shut down. It’s kinda dumb folks, it doesn’t need to be this way.

    I could have sworn I heard that the 100 person US senate only needs 51 members to pass a bill, but I vaguely heard they don’t want to do that because it overrides the option to filibuster?

    What???

    Very lost over here

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        And then when Dems get into power again, let them enable fascism all over again? They had 4 years to curb stomp fascism but they didn’t.

        What’s practical is to primary progressives. “Perfection is the enemy of good” is a thought terminating cliché to accept breadcrumbs. Outside of US, it’s actually a common mindset among conservatives they tell to electorates to accept the status quo.

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          You are a person who doesn’t know who joe manchin is.

          But yes, Dems are inadequate. That’s why we need people mobilizing in every local for further left candidates. But that doesn’t mean don’t vote for dems… They’re still better than repubs

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    Keep it shutdown and keep the core message that GOP can end this if they cared about health care for normal americans.

    Keep up the pressure and rally around the message.

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      The message from the right is that this is about Democrats demanding woke shit and providing health care for illegals. They’re getting their message out there too.

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    Just three Democratic caucus members voted for the bill: John Fetterman, D-Pa.; Catherine Cortez Masto, D-Nev.; and Angus King, I-Maine.

    Hear that Nevada and Maine? You should probably deal with your traitors.

    Everybody already knew about Fetterman

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      Manchin was a democrat from a very right wing state. He never hid his views and that he was going to be very right wing democrat.

      Fetterman said he was a progressive, ran as a progressive, and went hard right wing when he got in office. Yeah the brain damage changed him but I think he was always a Republican in Democrat clothes.