I was watching this video of a live chicken trapped on a moving truck and thought it was strange that it’s not possible to say anything to them even when circumstances might warrant it. All we got is honking and waving. There could be a touchscreen interface with a map of nearby vehicles. It could be voice controllable or the passenger could do it for safety.
You describe contacting the people in nearby cars.
That’s something different than contacting nearby cars.
The latter is developed currently by the car industry. The former has been mentioned: CB radio.
But in both cases: maybe they are not interested in listening to you ;-)
I just want a way to save the chicken :(
This is what CB Radios are, and many more people used to have them before cell phones.
People in mountainous areas where a cell phone is useless still do.
Here in South Korea every car has the phone number of the owner displayed through the windshield so you can always call them when they parked false or so.
Really? That seems like it could be an issue of privacy.
I mean I can only imagine that people might be harassed in some way or another.
It’s not used for harassment because strong social norms discourage it. You would lose face if you’d do it.
The horn and a middle finger are already well entrenched as communication tools.
The quality is quite poor, but I’m reasonably sure that being able to talk
toat people sounds worse.Having said that, the idea of CB radio is cool.
I absolutely would not want an open channel to everyone around me. The potential for abuse is too high.
Imagine the giant trucks road raging because you’re in the left lane and only going +20 the speed limit. Or the old creeps hitting on teenagers.
And then there’s the privacy concerns. In order to connect to your car-specifically- it has to know your car is there. Which means your car is constantly putting out a beacon. This would be similar to how cell phones work - and are now being used by merchants and advertisers like Walmart to track where you go in stores.
And then there’s the security concerns of people pushing malware.
And then there’s the question of distractions from having to respond to people reaching out or shutting them up or whatever.
Imagine the giant trucks road raging because you’re in the left lane and only going +20 the speed limit. Or the old creeps hitting on teenagers.
What if we instead imagine the truck drivers politely asking you to move over? What if the ability to communicate freely with other drivers made the experience closer to walking in a crowd. I’m imagining something that allows all vehicles within a certain radius to hear one another so you can communicate with courtesy. I think a lot of road rage stems from our frustrations with our inability to communicate (and be held accountable) by the people around us.
What if the ability to communicate freely with other drivers made the experience closer to walking in a crowd.
In a dense crowd, the information being exchanged amongst the crowd is enormous. It is a constant negotiation, of different parties trying to get somewhere but also trying (hopefully) to respect other people’s space. And the stakes are lower, because bumping into someone is fine at 1 kph but totally unacceptable at 50 kph. And humans are dynamically adjustable, like raising ones arms so that a stroller can pass more easily. Cars can’t really do that (except Transformers: Robots In Disguise).
In a crowded bazaar, the bandwidth from reading people’s facial cues, from seeing whether they’re distracted by goods on display or from their Instagram posts, plus what people actually say – and what they don’t say – and how quickly or slowly they walk. All of that is context that is necessary to participate in the activity of passing through the crowd, and I think that cost-optimized technology to exchange the same amount of info while also needing to react 50x faster and deterministically, with safety standards suitable for 2-tonne machines that already kill and maim thousands per year, that’s not really feasible.
What if we instead imagine the truck drivers politely asking you to move over? What if the ability to communicate freely with other drivers made the experience closer to walking in a crowd. I’m imagining something that allows all vehicles within a certain radius to hear one another so you can communicate with courtesy. I think a lot of road rage stems from our frustrations with our inability to communicate (and be held accountable) by the people around us.
Yeah. No. I don’t know where you are, but when someone is angry at the inconvenience of having to slow down to merely reckless speeds… they’re not going to be capable of civil discourse. If they were capable of civility… they wouldn’t have been angry in the first place.
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What lane you’re in has nothing to do with the speed limit. If you’re the slower traffic, keep right. Always keep right unless you’re overtaking.
Terrible advice. If you’re not actively overtaking you’re supposed to always be in the left lane.I think you two live in different counties and actually agree.
Oh yeah.
My bad. I always forget about countries that drive on what, to me, is the wrong side of the road.
Thanks. :)
I will return to right lane as soon as I finish overtaking and it is safe for me to do so.
But keep the fucking safe distance while I do so. If you slow down a few meters behind me, instead of few centimeters, it won’t delay you much.
"What lane your in has nothing to do with speed limit… keep right… "
Left lane.
And your advice is actually somewhat incorrect, depending on the context your in. In more rural areas, sure. In more urban areas… there are dozens of reasons why you need to keep left- including taking a left exit.
Or, you know, like how at that speed your usually passing everyone else…
And just for the record, I don’t know where you are, but here… +20 is considered a felony. it’s incredibly stupid to drive that fast on a highway… never mind not on a highway.
people that go +20 and faster? They’re putting everyone’s lives at risk and statistically it’s only a matter of time before they kill someone. Hopefully something happens to teach them why it’s fucking stupid before it goes that far.
There is a highway near me where the limit is 55, but the average speed in the fast lanes is 70+.
I don’t get it. This makes everyone a criminal. I isn’t realize that 75+ would be a felony.
IIRC, the felony reckless driving was lowered from +30 to +20, during Covid after it became clear how dangerous people were driving. We saw a massive spike in roadway deaths because suddenly people felt like they could do whatever.
Congratulations. Now they’re breaking the law and you’re breaking the law. And now you’re both causing unsafe driving conditions for others. And you’re causing traffic.
Follow the algorithm to make things safer, consistent, and predictable. It’s not your job to police others’ speed.
Wow.
I don’t care what “the algorithm “ says, and you’re a hypocritical asshole for telling me not to tell others how to drive while telling me how to drive.
Now to be completely clear: I will always drive in a manner I deem to be safe. Not you. Not the asshole tailgating me because he can’t be bothered to to leave 10 minutes earlier.
And I can assure you: driving 50mph in a residential area is not “safe”. And neither is 90 in a 70 during rush hour. These are both staggeringly dangerous and imo, people who do so are on the level of those who drive drunk.
I’m not sure what I said to elicit such hate, and I don’t know what state or country you’re in. In California this is the law, and it’s at least as important as the speed limit. But unfortunately, it is never enforced. Slower traffic keep right
Being called out for a hypocrisy is not hate.
You were literally telling me not to tell be how to drive (which, while I came close, I didn’t actually do,) while literally telling me how to drive.
I understand many states have some form of “slower traffic laws”… and explained why that’s not relevant.
There are many reasons why someone needs to be in the left lane- taking a left-exit, or the left hand fork in a split, or, you know, actually passing people themselves…. Or seeing an eratic driver behind them making it dangerous to get over.
I have to assume that CA law also says something about running people off the road because they’re not going fast enough for you. Generally, I assume everywhere does- for obvious reasons.
Even if you’re right, that doesn’t give you them right to drive recklessly and tailgate people. Which brings me back to the original point I was making: the kind of people who are angry at having to slow down… are unlikely to be polite and civil- they’re already demonstrating harassing behaviors.
I never said you shouldn’t tell people how to drive. I implied you shouldn’t physically force others to drive how you want. Note I also never said it’s ok to speed. Anyway, have a good night. I’ll try to enjoy being stuck in traffic caused by you.
You have seen unfiltered general chat on an mmo?
And now that at freeway speeds?
No thank you.
You’ve seen unfiltered general chat on an mmo?
Not around me at highway speeds, please and thank you.
Beep beep!
Because
- Road rage is bad enough, and-
- Americans still exist, which is why
- We can’t have nice things.
This might shock you but I dont want nearby people to be able to talk to me. Chicken or not.
Lady honked at me the other day for not turning left at a light (she obviously didn’t see the motorcyclists) and began making rude gestures.
Well anyway it’s probably better that we can’t talk to each other.
I had a similar thing happen this week. Left turn lane waiting for pedestrian and their dog to cross the road. Person behind me was losing their minds at me. I pointed at the pedestrian and shrugged.
I once had someone flip me off because I put my turn signal on. We were in the right lane, I was turning right, and the left lane was completely empty.
Guess we’re supposed to mow them down, idk.
This is actually being worked on. Researchers are looking at adding a 4th light to stop lights. When enough “smart” cars get into the area they will talk to each other and the stop light to help control the flow of traffic. The 4th light is to tell you that is happening. When the cars leave the area, the turns off, and the light goes back to normal control mechanisms.
Honking IS how you contact nearby vehicles.
I do a lot of water sports in the UK and we use VHF radios. Certain frequencies are used by marinas and the like, and nearby boats will be tuned into them. Then there is a frequency used for emergency calls - the coastguard listens on that and answers, and will move your call to another frequency for more details, leaving the mayday one open again.
We mainly use VHF for boat-to-boat comms, or boat-to-shore. The local range is decent - a few miles from our base, depending on atmospheric conditions, obstacles etc. I honestly have no idea if you could use VHF radios between cars though. It’s not private for a start - everyone can hear you - and once someone is yammering on the marina frequency no-one else can transmit. So it’s just brief messages with protocols.
Many people would use such a method to troll and be disruptive, possibly causing collisions
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Yeah just like every online videogame with strangers. I would immediately mute it and never unmute.
