This is getting weirder. Did they realize they were being shitty on camera?:
“I’m a U.S. citizen, please help me,” she shouted after agents forced her to the ground. “This is unfair. Why are you doing this to me?”
Agents then placed her in a patrol vehicle. She was released a short time later.
“She refused to cooperate and identify herself with all levels of law enforcement there,” said agency spokesman Alan Regalado, noting Monroe County Sheriff’s Office deputies were there. A Herald reporter saw deputies moving drivers along who were slowing down to watch the stop.
After agents removed the woman from her car, they found her driver’s license in the vehicle, ran it through their system and confirmed she is a U.S. citizen, Regalado said.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article313356223.html
Edit: So basically, she wouldn’t show them her gold star. WTF country are we fucking living in.
A racist one
Edit: no lie, my phone autocorrected Fascist to racist (I probably fucked the spelling). Accurate both ways
And fascist don’t forget that part!
It’s quite sad to watch the decline of America.
“decline” 🙄
Ya, speaking as an American, America really jumped the boat with Iraq and Afghanistan and the idea of American Exceptionalism. Like I get it, America is the best, but the minute you start seeing results that are not agreeable, change the method. No, these chuckle ducks said we are America and rammed thorugh terrible idea after terrible idea. 'Cause we the best. It’s this mindset that has everybody denying, America was already close to the bottom. Now it seems we trying to be the best at being the bottom. And seeing if that floor can go lower.
It goes all the way back to the founding of the United States. The country itself is built on stolen land and is rotten to the core.
What is wrong with a bunch of wealthy racist land owners creating a country to benefit themselves?
Everything you learn growing up in the US is propaganda and objectively false. There is so much white washing bleach should be the national drink.
Why would they bother with the license if the ICE facial app scan said she was an immigrant? I thought it was absolute and infallible…
Too many eyes
Too many eyes
And not enough brains.
Omg it so horrible 🤦🏻♂️
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You lovingly forgave the traitors of the civil war, you gave high research positions to nazis after world war II, the signs are not hopeful
It’s actually surprising how they happen to have two million prisoners. Clearly, some people are going to jail.
In other news the justice department commissioned an AI to automate sentencing of convicted felons but had second thoughts when it transpired the robot had become racist after being trained on the judicial records. True story.
You know how many Nazis were hung in the Nuremberg trials? Like 10. Everyone else was basically acquitted. You cannot rely on systems of power to punish transgressors.
Yeah, we don’t need trials we need a fucking purge of fascists. And purges always go so well…
And I hope they get the same treatment as last time.
The Nuremberg trials were in my opinion exceedingly light in their judgments overall - too many Germans were guilty to practically execute or jail them all.
The same degree of lenience in this case would be a travesty.
Ahh. But that was for Germans. Just following orders is a valid excuse for Americans, as the war crimes trials during the vietnam spanking made clear.
Sadly most Nazis minus a few higher ups went without punishment. Many scientists even ended up working for the US as part of Operation Paperclip. Like the Civil War, the punishment NEVER fits the crime and these assholes mainly get off scot-free with no repercussions. Which always leads to a resurgence at some point.
My dad tells me a lot of nazis ended up peacefully moving to Newfoundland too
Unless the citizens start showing up to protests armed our corrupt politicians will do nothing as they’ve always done
Nothing will happen to them. Nothing happened to the National guard who murdered and stabbed students in 1970.
Kent state, Blair Mountain, irradiating special needs kids, Greenwood District, forced sterilisation, MOVE…
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These people will be protected and suffer no consequences, because the oligarchy in the US knows it will need more thugs who can operate with impunity. This is why Trump released the Jan 6th rioters. National guard literally murdered and stabbed students in multiple instances in 1970 and nothing happened to them. Most got promoted.
You’re basically right, and I think we can aspire to better through some well harnessed anger and direct action.
Maybe we should tell people what Direct Action is.
I hope so too but I have no faith in the democrats or the current American justice system to make it happen. The only way I see it happening is revolution or war. Otherwise, the federal government will just go on acting like all of this was perfectly normal
Jail. For all these ICE assholes and everyone above them.
MAGA ®etards were holding the skin color chart upside down.
With this casual ableism you’d fit right in with MAGA.
Having trouble parsing what you’re saying here. Are you saying MAGAs aren’t ®etarded?
No, they’re saying the r-word is an abelist slur and you shouldn’t be using it.
A slur against who? MAGA? Why would you care about them?
OMG how am I having to explain this to someone in 2025? The r-word is a slur against people with disabilities. Most of us realized like a decade ago that it’s not cool to use that word.
Huh? Just because someone has a disability doesn’t make them a MAGA. That seems way more offensive.
Oh, you’re doing a bit. I didn’t realize at first. Perhaps because it’s not a very good one.
It’s just too bad there wasn’t one of those responsible gun owners around to prevent terrorists from kidnapping a civilian. Speaking of, where are all of these gun toting Americans that believe they have them to defend America? Fucking cowards.
Be the change you want to see in the world
I am not a gun owner. I’ve never tried to senselessly defend them by claiming they’re for protection. I just want the hypocrites to stop being hypocrites and to point out how fake the initial argument was in the first place.
Those who had the guns agree with the kind of oppression they are seeing. It’s not really hypocrisy.
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Why are you lying?
Why you gotta be shitty like this?
She yelled no such thing. From the article about it in the Miami Herald, she wouldn’t recognize the ICE agents as legit.
No shit, i wouldnt either…law enforcement will give you name and badge number when asked and dont wear masks.
Please don’t make her part of the shitty conspiracy
So was she a US citizen? They let her go. Is screaming that I’m a US citizen sufficient to avoid ice detention?
Police don’t have the right to pull people over, ask them to exit their vehicle, cuff them, or put them in the back of a vehicle (detain them) without a reason. Stopping someone without reason is harassment, the rest is assault/battery (depending on location)/kidnapping without providing the reason. If they give you a reason they can detain you, but if that reason does not follow the laws or is determined to be unreasonable by a judge the body making the arrest is supposed to be held responsible and penalized, possibly making them open to a lawsuit. Aka she should sue them, and taxpayers should be pissed we are having to pay for this
You must not live in the US or you are very sheltered if so. That is not at all how things go down here. Police and ice do this sort of thing all the time. With no consequence. Screaming doesn’t usually stop the harassment.
Yes, they do break the law all the time.
But they are not supposed to do that. You must not know your rights as a US Citizen.
Also they ran her ID and determined that wow by gum she is a us citizen and then let her go.
Rights are only as good as the justice system. The US has been ignoring the rights of citizens and committing human rights atrocities. Not every US citizen confronted by the police is as lucky as her. If you think that your boot licking is going to protect you it’s a foolish delusion.
These fools are fucking around and about to find out.
Their force will be met with greater force.
It’s more likely that you get healthcare
Surely Florida residents are all aware that the entire state is within the 100-mile freedom exclusion zone.
I have never heard of this and with the average IQ of a Floridian I wouldn’t think they are in the know either.
obvious fedpost, but we need a socialist revolution here in the us. seriously!
Only a truly sick society would allow this
A society steeped in misinformation and propaganda ultimately embraces fascism
Sick from poison, no doubt, but sick nonetheless. I hope there’s a cure that opens their eyes some day, but it won’t come from a TV screen.
The cure to misinformation and propaganda is critical thinking and the scientific method
We have the tools. We need the talent.
It really isn’t, fascists love using “science” and “rationality” to “prove” their ideologies. You can argue that they’re not doing real science, but their followers will believe it.
The cure to fascism is anarchism. That is the only effective way to prevent it.
Exercise doesn’t cure poison. Using individual tools like critical thinking can help you avoid internalizing the misinformation and propaganda, but it sure doesn’t inoculate you from it. We need to cut it out at its source and find ways to ensure it doesn’t get replatformed. Otherwise the toxin is there, just waiting for a day when you’re not on alert, slowly poisoning your mind.
There are always going to be people whose honest assessment is just wrong, or very probably wrong. Or its one of those black swan moments and the crazy person is right.
There’s no getting rid of uncertainty. Science helps us quantify that and work with it.
Last time this happened, the country affected needed electro shock therapy to help them snap out of their delusions.
It’s been sick for as long as I’ve been alive… Americans often just don’t know it.
It’s been allowed under the laws for a long time, it’s just like everything else been a polite agreement not to do things like that. The constitution isn’t really suited for actors in bad faith in all parts of the government.
But it’s not, simply put if you are not committing a crime you are not required to ID.
Border control is allowed to ask you if you are a US citizen and they have expanded authority at established checkpoints. ICE can only ask you are a citizen. They can request ID, but you have the right to refuse.
Now if they can give probable cause that you are breaking a law then you can be detained and compelled to ID. The current legal standing is that race cannot be used to establish probable cause. Now of course the Supreme Court can over turn that anytime.
But all of this to say this has been the law for decades. ICE and local police departments struggle to understand that you do not have to ID when asked except under specific circumstances. Several departments have escalated to arrests that ultimately get thrown out. You can do a search online and find dozens of examples of cities having to pay a lot of money in settlements over false arrests.
But if you are driving a vehicle you are obliged to produce a driver’s license in every state. You can’t be pulled over just to have your license checked though, there has to be other cause for the stop.
Know your rights and fight for them before they are taken
The current legal standing is that race cannot be used to establish probable cause. Now of course the Supreme Court can over turn that anytime.
Which they did on September 8th.
Source? I’m not doubting you it’s just been a hard year to keep up with everything
Yes, they’re using reasonable suspicion for stops; Kavanaugh Stops due to what he wrote in his concurrence.
They’ve recently been judged to be using reasonable suspicion for arrests. But I think you might’ve implied as much.
Of course it’s a bit more nuanced but there you go.
Prison sentences for ICE agents who participate. There is no excuse.
Prison would be too good for these jackboot thugs.
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When the ICE is dismantled, nobody with excellent salaries and benefits should hire those shitbags.
How about no doctor treat them.
Hire them? They need to spend the rest of their lives in prison. The most egregious and violent ones should have capitol punishment handed down.
