The Trump administration reportedly plans to mobilize up to 1,700 National Guard troops across 19 states in the coming weeks to support its immigration and anti-crime crackdowns, a dramatic expansion of the controversial operation that’s seen federal agents and Guard troops carrying out activities across Washington, D.C.
The troops, who will largely be activated across Republican-controlled states, will serve in support of the administration’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement operations, as well as other law enforcement priorities, according to comment from unnamed Pentagon officials and documents obtained by Fox News.
Yay mobilization against the civilian population was never a bad sign for a government!
He files bro. Trust me the files a will end it bro, one more scandal bro I promise.
Meanwhile, martial law is coming.
But keep talking about the files
Martial law is here.
So who else is convinced the only possible decent future for yourself and your family is to leave the US? I hate myself for even being capable of considering that option, but really, what can I do to change the course of history? Can I change the course for my family?
For the next probably 5 to 10 years it’s a forgone conclusion. If you just look at the probability of what could happen it would really be an outside chance that things just get better at the next election cycle. Shit had been going downhill for 12 years. Which party gets in just determines how fast we’re pumping the gas.
I would bet it will turn the corner around 2042
My partner and I left the first chance we could. No regrets. In addition to our own personal safety (queer, trans, PoC, immigrant), life is just so much more enjoyable outside the US. Even if you disregard the Nazi takeover, the country is like 50 years behind any other developed nation. There’s no public transit, there’s no health care, education is dead, the food and water are slowly poisoning everyone, and half the country is violently opposed to behaving as a society.
I know it’s not a realistic option for everyone but for anyone who might have the means but is on the fence about it, it’s worth it. The other side really is greener. The easiest paths out are through work, education, or family
I’m trapped here dawg. No way out because I don’t have the family, nor education, nor job to get out. I’m going to fight in Civil War 2….I guess.
For what it is worth, I have been practicing my long arm. I figure that the antifa states will need soldiers, so I should volunteer to be on the line. Here’s hoping our efforts allow us to live in a better America. 🖖
Thank you for your service
I am slowly killing myself so I do not have to live through all this shit for any longer than I have to. Doctor says I should take statins for hardening arteries, but a heart attack sounds like the best option right now. This whole place is so fucked, and I am trapped here.
I get it
Take the statins if you can tolerate them. This shit won’t last forever. When they go down, it’ll happen fast.
You know, you are the only one that has made a sensible point. I think I will take your advice, or at least heavily consider it. We’ll see how resilient Canada and Europe are in the next 3 months. They will not go down if all the other countries are infested with greedy parasites too.
Thanks for the encouragement. I’m glad it’s working out well for you. And you’re right, regardless of the fascism going on right now, america is not a “developed” nation. It’s 5 corporations in a trench coat shaking down the rest of us every single day and its been that way for quite a while. Got any tips or things you wish someone would have told you before you moved?
Got any tips or things you wish someone would have told you before you moved?
Moving internationally is fucking difficult
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It helps to have a mailing address in the country, ideally one that isn’t a PO Box. If you know someone, you might be able to use theirs, otherwise look at services like UPS.
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Get rid of as much as you can before moving. My partner and I went through everything we had and got rid of about half. Shipping is expensive. I also imported my car which was a whole bucket of bureaucracy.
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A storage unit is handy to have before you have an apartment
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If the place has universal health care as any developed nation should, you probably won’t be able to get on it right away. You’ll need insurance in the meantime. Thankfully insurance isn’t always as bad of a scam as it is in the states.
You’re basically reestablishing your life from scratch while slowly shutting down a past life. You’ll need to transfer your finances over, shut down utilities, etc. The first 6 months after leaving are going to be difficult and you will be stressed out of your mind. Be kind to yourself.
I’ve left the US three times to live elsewhere, the shortest of the three stays abroad was five years.
Mailing address: agreed. But a PO box won’t work for some things, so find someone you can trust who’ll let you send mail to their address.
Bank accounts are tricky to establish quickly, but you won’t be able to do a lot of basic things like get utilities turned on or rent a flat without a local bank account. Even then, your credit rating’s going to suck for a while.
Don’t bring anything except irreplaceable items with sentimental value. Computers will generally work OK. I’d never think of bringing a car. Sell it. Sell everything you can. Give what you can’t sell away. Storage costs are a drain. Extra cash is more helpful.
Expect hassles and absurd expense getting car insurance since you won’t have a driving record in your new host country. At some point, you’ll need a host-country driver’s license and that can also be a pain in the ass. But on one occasion, I lived in a big city with good transit and didn’t need a car for the first 6 years of my stay.
Similarly, many countries are parochial about qualifications and work experience, and don’t have a clue about your education or experience in the US and whether you’re lying about it or not. You’ll have to prove yourself all over again.
Arrange accommodation at your new place before your shipment is scheduled to arrive. Shipping can take a few weeks. We did an LCL (less than container load) palletized move. We got a freight expediter to palletize it and to handle all the paperwork. It wasn’t crazy expensive, 3/4 of a ton of stuff was about $400. I knew someone who knew someone in the business, that helped. The shipment came into a major port, I hired a van to pick it up, brought a brawny son along, drove there, signed some forms, busted up the palletized load into the van and drove it back home. The whole pick-up process took most of a day.
Heath arrangements vary a lot by country so I won’t comment on them much. Getting insurance as a “bridge” is also necessary if you’re let in on a short-term visa pending their granting you permanent residency. You also have to avoid getting entangled with the justice system during that period, even minor crimes can disqualify you.
Live like the locals, not like an American. Swimming against the current is exhausting, and you’ll soon find out that the thing you thought was essential for you to to live wasn’t actually worth having. I’ve got a smaller house than I had in the US, I drive a smaller car (and drive a lot less than I did in the States), and my fridge is smaller than I am. But my greengrocer’s a 5-minute walk from my house, so I don’t need to have a month’s worth of food in the fridge.
Once you’ve bootstrapped in the new place, take a vacation, enjoy the new environment. Don’t forget who you are, but keep moving forward.
Thank you so much. I will keep these things in mind. I’ve never even left the country (due to the majority of my life being lived in poverty), so any tips help. My first step will be to actually visit the country I want to move to and to try to find some sort of advisor(?) in the new country who could guide me on things I could set up prior to moving.
Yes definitely take an exploratory trip first. It’s common for border/immigration to ask if you had been there before anyways. Hit up some bars and try to make a friend or two
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I left many years ago, before Trump was anything but a bad joke on reality TV. I have no regrets. If your vote is suppressed, vote with your feet. It’s also OK to stay and fight, but not everyone is in a position to do that.
What are the best options as far as countries to move to?
So often you hear the story about just the clothes on their backs and thats because that was where its at at that point. Until other countries recognized americans as refugees I don’t many will be able to do this.
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Where’s the fucking epstein list donnie? People aren’t going to forget no matter how many distractions you try.
If people just sit around and let him impose martial law then it doesn’t matter what anybody remembers.
Hitler gives the order to invade Poland
Liberals on lemmy: it’s just a dIsTrAcTiOn!
Fucking for real… I also want them to keep it in the news cycle, but not everything is a fucking distraction when you’re country is literally in the midst of a fascist takeover
If anything, Epstein is the distraction. Not one piece of new information has come out in years. People made fucking jokes about lolita island 20 years ago. His supporters do not care. At all. All this does is fire up the conspiracy folks, who all support him and will continue to support him.
Trump takes over a police departmment and sends national guardsmen, with weapons now, to police the streets. ‘But what about the thing everyone on this planet has known about forever?’ Motherfucker has video of him talking about his good friend who ‘likes girls on the younger side.’ We already know. Shut the fuck up with this distraction shit.
When the smoke clears and the casualties are tallied by all the respective news outlets,…. Remember that this was all avoidable.
None of this had to happen.
When the smoke clears and the casualties are tallied by all the respective news outlets,….
Someone’s optimistic
Trump wasn’t inevitable but fascism coming to the US was. Both parties were committed to a dance that only ends one way.
But it was still avoidable…
Yeah, like the entirety of human history. However, the course was pretty clear and America was pretty committed to it - despite a whole lot of work done by a whole lot of people to change it. Hell, most of the country is still committed to it. All the Democrats who want to get past Trump so things can get back to “normal” haven’t learned a damn thing.
I’ve been saying this for a while. You can’t continue to increase the income inequality gap without taking people’s rights away. This was going to happen one way or another. I have seen it coming for 20 years, but wasn’t educated enough to realize populism and demigogary (spelling?) would be a part of it.
Yep, that’s a big part of it. Even the good things Democrats did like the ACA were also designed to funnel more wealth upwards.
The liberals stopped worrying about the little guy and soon after stopped even talking to the little guy. Then the little guy stopped voting for Democrats. Fascists however are always ready to fill that vacuum. They don’t do shit for the little guy, but they do make him feel heard.
bOtH siDeS! aMiRiTe?
Surely Kamala would have built even bigger concentration camps on American soil. And I’m sure she’d have sent even more ICE agents to deport legal citizens and sick children. Oh and let’s not forget all the military she would be sending to fight the false crime rates she fabricated to distract from the pedophile ring she belongs to.
Both sides are completely the same!
Oh, fuck off with that “both sides” bullshit. Of fucking course there are things that Democratic and Republican politicians have in common, but we can’t fucking talk about it without some wise-ass pulling this thought terminating garbage.
For the record, I never even said they did anything the same. They have different roles in the same dance, and that dance brought us closer to the cliffs edge with every repetition.
I never even said they did anything the same.
Both parties were committed to a dance that only ends one way.
lololol….
If you read my whole comment I’ve already answered that. Being part of the same dynamic doesn’t mean you are doing the same thing. It’s not that hard a concept to understand.
Of course it’s not a hard concept to understand- which is why I was so easily able to point out the ridiculous notion that you’re somehow not trying to say that both sides are the same.
It’s pretty plain as day.
A man beats his wife on the regular. Cops get called, wife lies and defends husband, cops go away. Rinse and repeat until the wife is dead. They both contributed to that outcome. They both danced the dance at the cliff’s edge until the inevitable happened. Am I saying they are both the same? Hell no. The guy is a monster. That doesn’t mean the wife didn’t contribute to that outcome.
I believe in you.
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When the smoke clears and the casualties are tallied by all the respective news outlets
If, not when.
Every fascist regime falls eventually. The question is how much damage will be done before it does.
Anyone who supports trump is a facist. They may not think so, and won’t like being called that. But that’s what they are
Since noone is posting it, here’s a list of the states:
Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Louisiana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wyoming
So almost entirely red states that went for trump. I live in one of these states right next to an Air Force base. It’ll be terrifying if I go to some places this or next weekend and happen to see National Guard. Fucking nuts.
Red states so another yard for Krasnov.
You gave him an inch, then a yard, next a mile.
Glad but shocked Oklahoma isn’t on that list. Let’s hope this fails miserably and instead expands to my state. Exactly what’s his plans on feeding and housing these guards? In LA they had to sleep on the street and had no food. We need to call our Congressmen and demand they put a stop to this bullshit.
New mexico is not exactly a red state but its quite a list.
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I am in one of those too. It is great how literally everyone is broke or has job insecurity and they are just wasting money.
It’s not a “crime crackdown” or a “law and order crackdown”. Why does the Independent have to sanitize what he is doing? This is an authoritarian intimidation tactic.
The media is either complicit or already intimidated depending on the outlet.
The Independent is a UK paper. They’re complicit.
“Crime crackdown”.
What fucking crime?
Fake problem so he can deploy troops for no reason and later declare victory. Typical Trump bullshit.
Protests against Trump
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That’s just ~107 per state, we totally out number them and can take 'em.
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There is no crime problem (relatively). Just like there is no migrant problem.
But you know what would bring crime down? Equality.
The crime is coming from inside the (white) house.
The Act does not prevent the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state’s governor. The United States Coast Guard (under the Department of Homeland Security) is not covered by the Act either, primarily because although it is an armed service, it also has a maritime law enforcement mission.
The title of the Act comes from the legal concept of posse comitatus, the authority under which a county sheriff, or another law officer, can conscript any able-bodied person to assist in keeping the peace.
