I can’t imagine this happening in the Netherlands… Wtf…
…or really anywhere in the civilised world
It absolutely does happen here. Like this one for example: guy chases young girl with an axe after messing with his doorbell.
https://nos.nl/artikel/2438126-man-wordt-boos-om-belletje-trekken-en-verwondt-man-met-bijl
Don’t mess with the wrong people. You never know what’s going to push them over the edge.
Ja, Limburg. Vandaar. ;)
Edit: the axeguy was stopped by visitors of a local bar while pursuing the little girl. Noone got seriously injured and the unhinged moron was left in police custody.
Now, in the US these kind of stories have a different ending. In the US this guy would’ve shot the girl and rampaged through that bar.
Well, shit…
That girl would have 100% been shot and killed if this happened in America.
Cop speak is always so frustratingly literal. They refer to the victim as “the male”. He’s 11. call him a kid and have some empathy
Adults: “Kids never go outside and have fun anymore.”
Also Adults: “If you step on my property I’ll kill you.”Those are different adults saying those things. The gun nuts tend to instill irrational fear in their kids that they should never leave the house unless they are prepared for life-and-death warfare. It’s a sad cycle of paranoid abuse :(
Sometimes it’s different adults… It’s all part of the same incoherent ideology.
Ah yes, superb firearm ownership; shooting at kids running away from you.
The running away part adds a bonus felony in Texas in addition to the reckless discharge and I’m guessing murder II maybe negligent homicide.
The only way to stop a bad kid from ringing doorbells is a good guy with a gun.
That kid was no angel.
I’m sure I missed some right-wing thought-stopping platitudes, I may be back later with more wisdom.
Maybe we shouldn’t be talking about this right after it happened??!?! Give the dead child’s family some time! Now is not the time for gun control arguments it’s the time to come together and support the victims, especially the man who shot the child, nobody thinks of their suffering!
But then casually post anonymous racist YouTube comments about how if he was raised better this wouldn’t have happened
Inb4 the cops find weed in their parents house.
“Find”
Not going to lie, had me going for a second.
Needs more thoughts and prayers, but still a good 9 out of 10.
You forgot: The death penalty will deter others
I’m so extremely pathetic that I feared for my life because of a fleeing child!
On NextDoor somebody posted a link to this story and the comments were all “see? Kids shouldn’t be ringing doorbells and running away like this.” Maybe the real lesson is “don’t shoot kids in the fucking back”?
I live just outside of Houston, and I’ve had kids play ding-dong ditch at my house, and honestly it’s fucking creepy. It wouldn’t bother me during the daytime, when people are around and there are often children playing on my street. But it only happens late at night, when my two little kids are in bed. I check outside and they’re gone. My street is well-lit, but I never see them running away. There’s a green space nearby that they must be running to, but there’s nothing to hide behind there.
Anyway, it’s creepy as fuck. I really hate it. If I caught the kid in the act, I’d probably get real serious at him and try to get him to stop. But I’d never point a gun at him. I hope he trips while he’s running and busts up his teeth, but I don’t want him to die.
The murderer here is completely unhinged.
I hope he trips while he’s running and busts up his teeth, but I don’t want him to die.
You hope a child is seriously disfigured and has to endure painful reconstruction and likely very expensive dental bills for… checks notes… annoying you? I mean, at least you don’t wish death up on him for playing the prank that nearly every child ever has played. Just serious injury, which is totally OK.
We can’t all lead a blameless thought life like yourself but I’m sure we’re all hoping you can teach us a few things.
That’s obviously hyperbole for “I want them to face some consequences for their actions after alarming me in my home in the middle of the night for their own enjoyment.”
Is someone ringing your doorbell alarming to you? Especially in a city like Houston. I get that in the country it is rare for people to be out and about. I also get that you might be scared if they ring the doorbell late at night, but that’s what peepholes are for. Or Ring cameras. Or keeping the door closed and yelling, “Who is it?”
Yes, someone ringing my doorbell late at night and then running away before I can get to the door is alarming. I don’t like it. Maybe you’d like it, but it disrupts my peace, wakes up my kids, and I don’t like the feeling that someone is targeting me for their one-sided enjoyment. It’s fucking creepy.
You could always have a switch for your door bell so that when the switch is off the bell doesn’t ring. Just turn the doorbell off each night and enjoy some uninterrupted sleep.
Plus when the ding-dong-ditchers realize that the bell no longer rings they’re likely to stop hitting your bell.
And that is the same rationale used by the guy who just shot and killed a kid. Maybe they are targeting you because they can see how mad you get over a simple and common prank.
It’s not creepy. It’s the most common prank done around the world by nearly every generation of kids. Or it was until people started killing kids for it.
Being an adult involves tolerating a lot of things without externally reacting in the moment. There’s always an incompetent boss we can’t call out, or an insufferable family member that we still have to be nice to, or a neighbor that we have to somehow share a wall/fence with. We still get annoyed about things, we just save it for appropriate times and places. For example, frustration about ding dong ditching, could be shared on a post about ding dong ditching.
It’s sad it needs to be said, but calmly expressing an opinion online ≠ going overboard IRL.
Imagine you hear someone trying to kick down your door in the middle of the night. Is this…annoying? Or terrifying?
Are you seriously equating ringing a doorbell with kicking a door down?
No, but that’s the latest middle of the night fad
Except, Moakley didn’t say they are trying to kick down the door. You brought up kicking. Moakley just said they are ringing the bell and running away. No kicking involved, so disfigurement seems extreme.
However, it’s also a wish, which means it has no effect on anything. Feel free to wish anything on anyone, it won’t happen.
Although, my high school bully did get brain cancer and die, so who knows? Maybe wishes work sometimes.
This article left that out. Other articles say they were doing the door kicking challenge.
Either way the dumb kid shouldn’t be dead.
Please read articles before posting comments about them. Otherwise it’s just baseless flame wars.
I did. The article that was posted didn’t mention kicking.
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Also, this particular comment thread was about a person experiencing ding-dong ditch personally, not necessarily what happened in the event described in the article.
“creepy”? Annoying, stupid, sure, but “creepy”?
I think the point is that you don’t really know it’s kids playing a game. Your doorbell rings at night and there’s no one there.
Unless you think ghosts are real, there really aren’t many possibilities. Late in the evening it’s more threatening than creepy.
I guess I’m not at all into supernatural stuff, so I wouldn’t think “creepy” as in ghosts, but I’d for sure be wondering if there was someone waiting away from the door to cause me problems if I stepped out to look without locking the door behind me. And I don’t live in a place where that kind of thing is common.
Maybe I’m alone here, but if my doorbell rings and I look out and nobody’s there, I see that as a win lol
Especially creepy if they’re kicking your door in the middle of the night.
You could always respond like a normal human being and get a doorbell cam. You can at least see what is going on and maybe go talk to their parents (if you didn’t live in a dystopia where people think it’s ok to just start blasting)
We don’t have a doorbell cam because we live in a dystopia and I don’t want the cops or the government to have visual access to my front door at all times.
Also savvy criminals would have jammers on. There is little question in my mind that tech bro bastards probably shut down all cameras they don’t fully control if they go anywhere. They want all the privacy in the world while they probably want a nice shot of your ass as you take a dump.
Lawl nobody bothering people at home for tiktok clout is carrying a fucking jammer
jammers
No idea why you need something as sophisticated as a jammer when you can just stick a piece of tape over the lense.
Either way, yeah. These cameras are more useful for a panoptican security state than any individual home owner.
And even then… not that beneficial.
Also kids playing ding dong ditch, aren’t walking around with sophisticatedish tech like that!
We’re talking about children playing a harmless prank… They’re not bringing “jammers” with them. Point was that a doorbell cam would let them see that it’s just kids goofing off. If the bell rang late at night, they looked at the cam, and it was all scrambled, I think it would be pretty safe to assume that wasn’t ding dong ditch.
I was referring to actual criminals and not kids playing pranks.
Ring cameras absolutely have been hacked and jammed. The people who did that weren’t kids being annoying. They were car theft rings who used the time that cameras were downed to steal cars.
Yes, I understand. The point is, if your shit is being jammed, then you likely have genuine reason to be concerned. So the doorbell cam helps you realize they’re not kids playing a prank doesn’t it
Self-hosting is an option if you’re tech-savvy enough
I’m not.
Everyday is a learning opportunity, all you’ve got to do is seize that opportunity.
I’ve got two kids and a full time job. Every day is not a learning opportunity.
Chances are astronomically low you know who the parents are. Maybe this is a legit use of that nextdoor app.
Given that kids sometimes play outside, or take some time to get loaded into or out of cars in a driveway, and I am also sometimes outside or driving to or from my house, I feel like I have a decent handle of what kids live where in a one block radius of my house. I may not know the parents, but I would know which door to knock on to meet them.
I had this happen to us as well, but we put a sign on the door with a please don’t ring the door bell, baby is sleeping and it never happened again.
For some reason this also stop solicitors.
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This is why I’m glad in Canada guns have to be stored locked.
Not everyone does this, but you have to go through training and and there are serious consequences if you don’t.
If you did this here you would be charged with murder and improper storage of a weapon.
That really wouldn’t matter. The guy would have just grabbed the gun out of storage and used it. It’s not he wouldn’t have the key/combination to his own gun storage.
… By which time the kid may have been gone, or at least far enough away that he would have been hard to hit.
Or, you know, this violent, impulsive sack of shit may have had 10 extra seconds to think about what he was doing and be like “oh yeah, I don’t want to go to prison”.
If you can go and unlock your gun, load it, get to the door, and shoot this kid then you’ve confirmed to every jury in the country that you murdered them.
Why is everyone assuming that this man who shot a fleeing child in the back is a law abiding citizen who will keep his gun locked up just like the law says he should?
I have no idea how US courts prosecute this kind of thing with their “stand your ground” laws
I’m just saying here the court case would be incredibly clear cut.
Good chance this type also keeps their guns unlocked and just get by because law enforcement never comes to their house. That happens here all the time.
When little kids can’t even play simple pranks in your country without being shot, your country has serious issues that desperately need addressing (but won’t because the administration is so corrupt)
There are federal, state, town, and county layers of administration. They’re all corrupt. But not the parents.
wtf from the cops
a homicide detective with the Houston Police Department, told KHOU, noting the boy’s death does not appear to involve self-defense because the shooting “wasn’t close to the house.”
Implying that if they rang the doorbell and waited (you know, the entire purpose of a doorbell), it could have been considered self-defense? I know, that’s a bit of logical fallacy but wtf
Everyone is entitled to their day in court. This is a cop doing a good job of cutting out any possibility of bullshit weaseling by pointing out that the possibility of self defense doesn’t even need to be debated or discussed.
Everyone is entitled to their day in court
Even ICE detainees? Don’t tell trump that. It’ll rile him up no end.
Yeah I was about to say… Not anymore they’re not
could have been
as the other user said, yes, exactly. depending on other factors it could have been
It just means they don’t even need to consider if it could have been in self defense because it was ruled out at step 1. Not that if it passed step 1 it would be guaranteed that it was.
They just want to head off that entire line of defense from the get go.
The kid was shot in the back You know, cause he was running away and all.
It is wild to me that someone hears their doorbell and their instinct is to grab their gun. I cannot imagine losing your child this way. I know school and mass shootings are awful and kill many more children. The difference is the intent; on some level Americans are aware existing means we could be the victim of gun violence. We do not expect idiots to shoot at us with no intent to go on a killing spree and especially not at our children outside of schools.
I almost don’t blame parents for not wanting to let their kids play outside anymore
It is wild to me that someone hears their doorbell and their instinct is to grab their gun
Seriously, my first instinct (like any normal person’s) when I hear my doorbell is to pause whatever I’m watching or playing, turn off the speakers, and slowly and silently creep towards the door to peek through the peephole and see if whoever rang without scheduling first has already gone away and I can go back to my normal life.
What am I going to do with a gun, shoot the bastard and cause even more people to come to my door‽
Child homicides and violent crimes are lower now than they were 40 years ago. Around 1992 was when it was the worst in the past 45 years. That’s not even per capital either. Just number per year. In 1980 the population was 226 million. Now it’s 340 million, so even though there’s over 100 million more people, there’s still less violent deaths.
Kids are safer. It’s just blasted all over the news and internet anytime something fucked up happens.
While that’s all true, I think it’s a worthwhile exercise to examine if the number of people being shot for ringing a doorbell or turning around in someone’s driveway has experienced a statistically significant increase over the number of instances 40 years ago*.
It could be argued that the media (and the fascist scum running the country) blasting stories about made-up or exaggerated crime are directly responsible for any increase in insanity by chicken-shit gun-fetishists.
* Of course, you’d also need to factor in the reality that 40 years ago, in some areas you could murder someone for ringing your doorbell, and depending on the skin tones involved it might not even be reported.
You also have to factor in that parents these days don’t let their kids go outside and do anything by themselves. My aunt won’t let her 10 year old grandson walk by himself 150 ft from her son’s house to hers, in broad daylight while she is at the door watching out in the safest suburb of a small city.
Fox news fucked up this whole generation.
They have guns and the death penalty but somehow, they can’t put together that one leads to the other. It’s like the only thing that matters over there is the profit from selling the equipment.
No. The sensational back and forth on the “will they / won’t they” every time something happens drives hella clicks.
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Holy fucking shit take batman
Yeah, that 11 year old totally deserved to die for ringing someone’s doorbell and running away. You’re right that the only thing wrong with the story is that the grieving parents know what happened to their child.
I’m glad that the community that’s mourning a child is now going to have fewer kids playing mostly harmless pranks.
I can’t tell if you’re genuinely that awful a human being or if I’ve just taken the bait.
oh the parents are definitely supposed to know; thats how negative feedback works. raise kid that pranks the neighbors; kid gets pwned. the kid was shot because the kid pranked the neighbor and, had they not, they would be alive. it wouldn’t work if the parents didnt know what happened. im just saying the guy played it too loose with the police
Wow, you have a take shittier than the first one. Congrats
Even in the 2000s people would call the cops saying there was a robbery when they got dinged. We were like fucken 11 and a police helicopter came overhead it was fucken insane.
Ha, no more stupid pranks in Houston!
