She’s embarked on a nationwide tour with Vermont’s Independent Senator Bernie Sanders, held town halls outside of her district in upstate New York, and raised $15 million
Democratic Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a progressive who has cemented her popularity with young voters, is reportedly considering running for president or the Senate in 2028.
Ocasio-Cortez, 35, made a splash when she was elected to represent New York’s 14th congressional district, located in the Bronx and Queens, in 2019. Now, the Democrat is reportedly considering taking the next step in her political career as the party searches for its next generation of leaders, Axios reported Friday.
Members of Ocasio-Cortez’s team have recently been positioning the progressive lawmaker, known as AOC, to either run for president or run for a Senate seat.
Nah. She’s politically what the country needs, but get serious, no way will America ever vote a woman as President.
Stranger things have happened. They elected a black guy for one.
And 30% of the fucking country proceeded to lose their gotdamn minds about it.
While another 30% declared we had “defeated racism” and decided it’s okay to halt all efforts to remediate past racial bias or prevent future racial bias in the system.
Sorry; unmedicated.
I hope you are wrong (and I think I might agree with you - I’m dubious about enough Americans being able to be man enough to vote for a woman, so I guess that means I hope we are both wrong), but I’m also bracing myself for the absolute tidal wave of Murc’s Law that will follow in an attempt to excuse all of the worst tendencies of the hard right if we were to elect a woman that is also a POC.
If the conservatives go for someone even far worse than Taco (and face it: they ain’t going back to the methadone of someone like a Romney or a W or a McCain after they have been mainlining the China White of pure Taco for over a decade now. If anything, they need to up the dosages of the hatred and the grievances.), there will be lots of analysis about how the liberals made them do it, because, look, what choice did they even have? The liberals elected not only a woman, but another POC! It’s almost like the liberals learned nothing from electing Obama for two terms!
We should let the Democratic party choose a person through a primary to run for president and then allow that person to run for president.
If a woman makes it through that process on her own merits then the party will probably vote for her.
If on the other hand a woman is selected because she’s a woman who will cooperate with the donors and they decide to skip that process or subvert it in some way then you probably won’t win.
Why would anyone do that when you can just complain about needing change, but do absolutely nothing to support or advocate for it! Or better yet, you can just start applying uninformed purity tests to progressive candidates. “She wants to implement the change I want to see, but because I don’t understand how legislation is passed in the US, I’ll accuse her of giving money to Israel’s occupation, and say she’s complicit in genocide” - average internet leftist.
Michelle Obama would be president right now if dems wanted to win more than they want to platform fascists.
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/only-michelle-obama-bests-trump-alternative-biden-2024
she might win, but she wont “win”.
She’s showing her face again? But not to denounce genocide? Then she’s got a chance in the dem “party”.
Haven’t you heard, the new line is there is a genocide, but of course Palestinians started it.
Oh hey, deja vu: https://lemmy.world/post/31181294/17600842
Nice! This comment brings your total of my up votes and down votes back to exactly zero. Very Thanos. Very cool.
More likely she’s running for senate.
I know I’m a day late here replying but this narrative is just antiquated like our entire system. If we want to keep at this, we don’t need her after a stint in the Senate, we need her now. What exactly will she gain by going that route? Because it’s the best way to gain respect? Maybe she’ll get some experience?
Look, statistically you are right. But let’s run the facts, normal is just a setting on the dryer and we’re not playing by the standard rulebook anymore.
Ah yes, I remember when Trump became a Senator.
Fun stats: 17 U.S. presidents were previously U.S. senators, and also 17 were previously state governors (additionally, Harrison and Taft were territorial governors, and Jackson was military governor of the territory of Florida).
Six U.S. presidents had held previously both governor and U.S. senator roles, including Jackson and Harrison’s non-state governorships.
5 U.S. presidents were not elected to public office prior to holding the presidency - Taylor, Grant, Hoover, Eisenhower, and Trump.
Why do you think this?
I’m not the guy you’re responding to, but historically it’s been a lot easier to be taken seriously after a stint in the Senate. Hard to say if that’s still the case, we live in weird times, but the Democrat establishment is a lot more bound by tradition than Republicans, and it frequently leads them astray.
It’s very possible with a coalition formed through other recent success stories like Mamdani, she’s concluded that a coup of sorts is possible (and I mean that with the utmost excitement). They might have numbers showing now is the time to capitalize on a ground swell and really shift the party. I’m assuming they’ve got some sort of data backing this, even if it’s just “we don’t know if we can win but we know the establishment Democrats will lose”
As much as I would love a very progressive Democrat from New York to be president she realistically has no chance of getting enough voters to win the GE especially in the purple/red states that Harris had a hard time with.
The best she could aim for is running in the primary, shaking up the candidates and getting the winner to adopt her agenda or at least have her as a VP.
To be fair, Harris was a reasonably unlikable candidate. Maybe AOC has similar baggage. I hope not. I’d love to see her at the top of a ticket.
One of the biggest issues with Harris is that she wasn’t elected in the primary. If AOC is elected in the primary, she has way more of a chance.
I don’t think AOC has that baggage. Democratic voters want someone that isn’t a corpo-centrist running like being not-Trump is enough. Every argument that can be made against AOC could have been made against Obama in 2006 too, but he had a message that resonated and won. AOC could be in a good position to do something similar. I’d sure vote for her, even if she’s become more mainstream she’s still miles ahead of every other likely candidate.
It doesn’t matter what her message is, no one will hear it because the news will only be reporting on what the white house tells them to report, and if they go off script they will get their licenses pulled or sued for billions.
That’s going to be equally true no matter who the nominee is—and given that, the key factor will be which candidate best appeals to the fraction of the population that doesn’t rely on Trump-aligned news.
especially in the purple/red states that Harris had a hard time with.
Bullshit. She has a better chance in those states than Harris had, specifically because she isn’t an establishment Democrat.
How much longer is it going to take before folks finally start to get it through their heads that left populists like Bernie and AOC can tap into the same disillusionment that Trump exploited?
Sorry, best we can do is Cuomo. - DNC, probably
I think winner adopted agenda would be nice but I don’t think VP is the move. I would love for her to take Schumers seat.
especially in the purple/red states that Harris had a hard time with.
Harris had a hard time with those places because she was an empty suit neoliberal promising no significant change whatsoever and also genocide. The whole “it’s misogyny and/or racism” thing is a cop out so establishment Dems don’t have to confront their godawful platform. Obama sure as hell didn’t struggle with those red and purple states.
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Unlike Biden?
Literally yes. Biden was the most progressive American president in a loooong time (or at least one of the most progressive depending on how you parse Obama), and his campaign showed it. I mean he was still a neolib and definitely not the man of the hour, but in more normal times (and without a genocide to aid and abet) he’d be considered a better than average president, though one with his pitfalls.
Obama is a man.
Black men were granted the right to vote in America before white women were.
Sure, but I have a very hard time believing your average potential blue voter (so not MAGA chuds) would hate a black woman appreciably more than a black man. Black is firmly at the top of the hierarchy of American hate; they got the right to vote sooner because they were willing to take to the streets about it sooner.
Phew, it’s a good thing Trump solved that genocide, right fellas!
He certainly delivered on significant change!
That’s definitely true. In the worst way possible, so far.
That has nothing to do with what I’m talking about.
If Harris brought genocide, you’re saying Trump didn’t.
What the fuck? I said Harris promised genocide, which she did. Learn some reading comprehension.
And allowing Trump to win by not electing Harris benefited the victims of genocide how, exactly?
It didn’t and that has fucking nothing to do with what I’m talking about. Like, god damn did you even read what I wrote? Hint: It’s about the future (and AOC), not the past.
I think you misremember. Trump actually promised to further the genocide. And he delivered too.
Okay say something relevant or bless us with your silence. Just because there’s another genocider out there doesn’t mean your favorite genocider isn’t also a genocider.
Good! I hope she comes with some fire, sound policy ideas, and a tight campaign
She won’t win a run for POTUS. Try Senate first.
I don’t know if she has the volume of support needed to take on the next R candidate for POTUS, but Newsom also has a lot of skeletons that will probably tank him if he gets on the ticket. She would do great as a replacement for Schumer and from what I’m reading has a good chance to do so.
But, like, hear me out: Tim Walz is in a pretty decent position for a run at POTUS: There’s enough time for him to bow out of the next gubernatorial campaign and prop up a progressive candidate. There’s enough time for him to gain support in the party. His terms as governor were largely regarded as successful, showing that he is capable of being a head of state. Compared to Newsom, he also has a much better track record when it comes to standing up for minorities.
It is also worth noting that Walz is an old (-ish? Compared to recent candidates, he’s apparently on the younger side…) white guy who coached high school football. This means that he’s already well suited to get the swing voters - the ones that vote regularly, but will vote for either party. If he were to run, he would need a running mate that could sway the left-wing non-voters into voting, which means a fairly high-profile progressive.
Bernie is too old now and would be more useful promoting younger politicians.
AOC in the case of a Walz presidency would be more effective as a senate leader.
Any other center/center-right running mate would tank his candidacy.
Because the USA is racist AF, anyone who looks or sounds too middle eastern will tank him.
However, it’s been established that a black person can be POTUS and a black woman can be VPOTUS, so might I suggest Tim Walz/Summer Lee for 2028?
3rd time’s the charm for seeing if the country will accept a woman. What’s the worst that could happen?
The liberal only sees a candidate through the lens of identity politics and can’t imagine any other qualities.
Exactly - its definitely the liberals who refuse to vote for women. You seem super duper smart, pal. Any other insights to bless us with?
Sigh.
Look. I like her. I like her fighting spirit. I like that she gives a shit. I like it all.
But when is this country going to learn? Look around you. Our culture is trash. This country is overflowing with racists and sexists and incels. Look at where we are right now.
We’ve tried to elect a woman twice in a row. They were both WAY more qualified than their opponent. And they lost. I voted for both of them.
If we run AOC, they’ll run a white male bigot. And they’ll win. Again. Using the same tactics.
Know your audience.
Damn, guess we better appeal to the sexists and racists, there is just no other option. You are very smart.
I’m not sure the racists and sexists and uncles are gonna vote for the Democrat candidate even if it was a literal clone of Donald Trump, solely because it’s the Democratic candidate
Title is a lie. It says right in the body “president or Senate”. Downvote and report.
Also: “plotting”? What the fuck is this? Has running for president suddenly become illegal??
it’s subconscious conservatism sneaking into the headline.
I’d vote for her in a heartbeat.
Probably one of the few candidates that have a chance with the democrats that would get me out to the polls.
If they nominate someone like kamala harris or joe biden again, it’s all over.
This is of course assuming it’s not all over already because they ran spineless crooks who don’t represent the working class.
If they nominate someone like kamala harris or joe biden again, it’s all over.
If they nominate someone like that, you should still go vote for that person and continue to fight for change, because the alternate is still far worse. The reality with US politics is that unless one of (or both) the two major parties implodes, the president will be affiliated with one of them. If one of the parties does break apart, it will guarantee a win for the other party.
If there is one thing the right does very well, it’s to whip it’s voters in line when election time comes. They may bitch and moan, but they’ll vote for the ® regardless.
You should be directing all of this energy towards those nominating candidates that don’t represent the interests of the working class.
sure thing, but you still need to vote for the less harmful candidate if your favourite doesn’t get the nomination. You got Trump because people figured they’d protest and not vote or vote for Jill Stein or whatever. Republicans may have not been fully on board with a second Trump term, but they still voted for him. They will vote for whoever has the ® by their name next time as well.
Does voting dem just kick the can down the road? Absolutely, but better than not having a can to kick…
sure thing
proceeds to do the exact opposite
Yeah, looking forward to staying home on election day. So fucking tired of the moderate white.
Make sure to vote, just not for the capitalist party.
Yeah, looking forward to staying home on election day.
Have fun with another republican term then, because that is the only plausible result of not voting against them. That is, if there is another election since your morally superior not-voting got you Trump again and Project 2025 is by many accounts, well ahead of schedule. Good Job!
You should be directing all of this energy towards those nominating candidates that don’t represent the interests of the working class.
God dammit. You people just don’t learn.
We’re both going to be stuck with a republican because you keep repeating the same mistakes.
Both of your comments were a complete waste of energy and did nothing to change my stance. You need to direct that energy towards the people voting for the hillary clintons and joe bidens over the bernie sanders and AOCs.
Now, are you going to waste more energy or finally learn and do something different? I know what I’ll put my money on!
Have the day you protest-voted for. Keep protest voting and losing. Keep letting your rights get eroded because your perfect candidate isn’t on the ballot. But hey, if you protest vote enough, you might not have to vote anymore, the candidate that you allowed to take the white house said so.
At the moment, that will likely be Newsom unless something major happens.
Looks like I’ll be sitting out another election.
Everyone getting mad at this needs to ignore me and direct any grievances they have towards anyone supporting newsom or another establishment candidate.
^^ supports MAGA ^^
Fox has propagandized the right to hate her to such an immense degree that this simply is a terrible idea. She can never win.
Why is it a problem that the right hate her? They’re not voting for her anyway. Modern US elections are won by motivating new people on your own side to vote, not by reaching across the aisle.
Well the propaganda doesn’t only work on the right.
Also, the youngest elected president in history was 43. She has zero chance.
Why does that matter? She’s well over the age limit, and we’ve been getting the oldest president ever quite a few times. The US is all about overcompensating, so I don’t see why we couldn’t swing back to the youngest ever by a small margin. She’s nearly 36 now, so she’ll be 39 when the term starts. I’d certainly be excited about the prospect of having a president who grew up with electricity.
Im sorry youre getting down voted, because youre right. Sorry to be a downer but I interact with real people (unlike i presume a lot of lemmings), and a LOT of them do not like her, for reasons spread by propaganda news all over the place. They know nothing other than she’s a woman and will take yer guns, so she will never win.
I hope we are wrong though.
So the way I could see this working for her is have Bernie Sanders come and endorse her right out the gate (I doubt he’d be up for being her running mate, but it’d probably be an even better run if he accepted that).
Ol’ boy had been VERY effective at breaking into right - leaning spaces and I could see him contributing to getting the historically Democrat (but not recently Democrat) voter out for AOC.
My real concern is the party leaders. I could see them trying to hold back resources and effectively pulling the same moves they pulled in Bernie to hold her down.
She is one of only two people I would be excited to vote for.
The other person is Jon Stewart.
I want Dolly Parton.
“Plotting”? Wtf is this wording?
Propaganda, as is usual
It worked so hard. I’m voting for her because this means she’s serious.
She’s plotting against the democratic establishment that wants to nominate another creepy fash loser.
That’s kind of how the article frames this. She’s popular with young voters, but would be jumping ahead of “established” “Democrats”. Very stupid framing since the establishment has failed us so consistently.
AOC is instrumenting a plot of running for office, while MAGA is merely preparing for another coup.
The DNC would never allow her to win the nomination.
I am hoping that she does this to them…
" is reportedly considering running for president or the Senate in 2028."
Stupid clickbait title.
